Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/4/22 Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ion also has an quite difficult upstream author. > > I'd suggest you look into awesome, see http://awesome.naquadah.org/ Looks nice. Trade difficult author for bad-choice-of-name? ;-) cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Wednesday 16 April 2008 16:47, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > Ion has the ability to launch different types of workspaces. There are > three by default (although we could add to that). One of these is a > floating workspace. It's rather bad, but it works, and I think it would > be pretty cool to

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-16 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> Is there anything I'm missing? Is the point to be able to run desktop > applications? Ion has the ability to launch different types of workspaces. There are three by default (although we could add to that). One of these is a floating workspace. It's rather bad, but it works, and I think it woul

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the goal exactly? I can only spot two real differences from > how the Sugar shell currently works: ... > Is there anything I'm missing? Is the point to be able to run desktop > applications? Yes. A Sugar

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-16 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Benj. Mako Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Martin Langhoff > > > > > Personally, I have been dreaming of a mix between ion3 and Sugar's > > >

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Benj. Mako Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Martin Langhoff > > > Personally, I have been dreaming of a mix between ion3 and Sugar's > > > 4-zoom-stages. Talking with some hard-core ion3 friends, they seemed > > > to be co

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-15 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> Adding Mako to the thread, as I recall he is a big ion fan as well. Absolutely. > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Martin Langhoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > | Anyhow, speaking as someone

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-15 Thread Bruno Coudoin
Le dimanche 13 avril 2008 à 20:44 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso a écrit : > > A good > > case in point is GCompris which addresses a critical need of millions > > (basic math and English) but has very few contributors from what I can > > tell. Contrast this w/ something like git or the gnu utilities. I

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-15 Thread Patrick Dubroy
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > True, I'm afraid too that at the short and medium term hackers won't > be scratching their itches in Sugar. But is also true that for many > people, making education more accessible is one of the main itches in >

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-14 Thread Walter Bender
Adding Mako to the thread, as I recall he is a big ion fan as well. -walter On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > | Anyhow, speaking as someone who has only very re

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Patrick Dubroy wrote: > | On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > |> > Another option would be to create a version of Sug

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:59 AM, Patrick Dubroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > > True, I'm afraid too that at the short and medium term hackers won't > > be scratching their itches in Sugar. But is also true tha

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Anyhow, speaking as someone who has only very recently gotten involved > | with the project, I can say that the Sugar interface was one of the > | most appealing things to me. I'm sure there are other potential

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-13 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Dubroy wrote: | On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> > Another option would be to create a version of Sugar that appeals to |> > programmers. But I can't imagine creating such a version that wouldn't |

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/4/12 David Van Assche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >I want to second the opinion that Moodle is definitely the right tool for > content distribution, though a localised broken down wikipedia as a global > reference to information is not a bad idea. Both are definitely in the roadmap ;-) > Coming

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Another issue related to the Roadmap . . . > > ==The Problem of Building an Open-Source community around Sugar== > > I foresee problems building an open-source community around Sugar > because most successf

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-12 Thread Marten Vijn
On Sat, 2008-04-12 at 17:37 +0200, David Van Assche wrote: > Hi Martijn, > I believe we are talking about different things here. I totally > agree with consctructivist teaching, but my point is that children > don't necessarily want to be taught, and the idea of let the children > learn what t

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-12 Thread David Van Assche
Hi Martijn, I believe we are talking about different things here. I totally agree with consctructivist teaching, but my point is that children don't necessarily want to be taught, and the idea of let the children learn what they want I think is a little irresponsible. Why not just disable all w

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-12 Thread Marten Vijn
On Sat, 2008-04-12 at 14:42 +0200, David Van Assche wrote: > Hi, >I want to second the opinion that Moodle is definitely the right > tool for content distribution, though a localised broken down > wikipedia as a global reference to information is not a bad idea. > Coming from a teaching perspe

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-12 Thread David Van Assche
Hi, I want to second the opinion that Moodle is definitely the right tool for content distribution, though a localised broken down wikipedia as a global reference to information is not a bad idea. Coming from a teaching perspective, children students need to be led, they need to be shown what to

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-12 Thread Bryan Berry
Martin: I have cc'd you because I think Moodle is the right tool for relating activities in a logical narrative, i.e. a 'lesson' or a 'tutorial' > > 7. Need graphical activity manager for removing and adding activities >> >> Could you detail the requirements for this? Perhaps in the wiki? >Thi