Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers

2013-05-31 Thread George Hunt
Cameron qu...@laptop.org To: David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com Cc: server-devel server-devel@lists.laptop.org, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net Subject: Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers. Message-ID: 20130529222631.gb20...@us.netrek.org Content

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-30 Thread David Leeming
...@lists.laptop.org [mailto:server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org] On Behalf Of James Cameron Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013 4:17 p.m. To: Tony Anderson Cc: server-devel Subject: Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers. Tony makes an interesting point that may be new to some: On Thu, May 30

[Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread David Farning
Tony could you share more information about your work on 12 Volt power supplies for School Servers? Whenever I see a School Server setup containing a 12V Battery, an inverter, a power strip, and a couple of 120V to 12V power supplies to provide power for the server and the AP... my eyes start to

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread Sameer Verma
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:03 PM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com wrote: Tony could you share more information about your work on 12 Volt power supplies for School Servers? Whenever I see a School Server setup containing a 12V Battery, an inverter, a power strip, and a couple of

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread David Farning
The piece I am looking at is reducing the losses between the battery and the server/AP. Several systems have a 12V Battery which is inverted to 120AC which is then transformed back to low voltage DC for input to the server/AP. That doesn't seem very efficient. Dave On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:29

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 15:03 -0500, David Farning wrote: Tony could you share more information about your work on 12 Volt power supplies for School Servers? Whenever I see a School Server setup containing a 12V Battery, an inverter, a power strip, and a couple of 120V to 12V power supplies

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 15:42 -0500, David Farning wrote: The piece I am looking at is reducing the losses between the battery and the server/AP. See my earlier response. Several systems have a 12V Battery which is inverted to 120AC which is then transformed back to low voltage DC for

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 04:38:06PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Is the inverter really needed for a XO? The step-down transformer used on the XO puts out 13.5v but the XOs only need 11 volts to charge[1]. Therefore I believe you could run and/or charge the XOs directly from a 12v source like a

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread David Farning
Thanks james, Any thoughts on powering the AP? On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:45 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 04:38:06PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Is the inverter really needed for a XO? The step-down transformer used on the XO puts out 13.5v but the XOs

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 04:51:47PM -0500, David Farning wrote: Any thoughts on powering the AP?  They are all different. First, select an AP that says it has a 12V input. I would record the voltage without load emitted by the power supply supplied by the manufacturer. This is a known maximum

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread Sameer Verma
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:26 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 04:51:47PM -0500, David Farning wrote: Any thoughts on powering the AP? They are all different. Yep. The one we use in Bhagmalpur (India) and in Jamaica is the Ubiquiti Picostation2 unit that runs

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread Anna
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:26 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: If the AP was USB powered Wifi dongle, the problem goes away. Speaking of, and this would only be appropriate for extremely small deployments, but I started messing around on the XSCE with hostapd with a wifi dongle this

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Holt
Just a reminder to include po...@lists.laptop.org if this discussion advances, the tightly focused electrical/energy list run by Richard Smith for many years to come God willing =) http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/power On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed,

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, The setup at the Kokobe Primary school in Lesotho has a small solar panel (too small) which attempts to charge two car batteries (deep cycle would be better but not available). The router (Belkin) runs directly from the battery (we cut the cable). Linksys and other routers I have used

Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.

2013-05-29 Thread James Cameron
Tony makes an interesting point that may be new to some: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 06:47:26AM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: This discussion is relevant because 12vdc does not travel well over long distances. It may be necessary in a school with multiple classrooms to use an inverter to provide 110