Re: [Server-devel] Managing global site resources when using segregated groups

2009-12-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:40 PM, David Leeming
da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote:
 That was very helpful, Martin. I will try the global glossary. I also noted
 that if users are added as guests only, then they can see the resources but
 are not connected by the presence service. A less elegant way to do it
 perhaps.

Yes, guest access is a possible approach. But truly global resources
are in their right place at the site course... and that is supported
by ancillary mechanisms within Moodle (ie: glossary autolinking ;-) )

 On the B4s below, well I have two C1s and 2 B4s and they were all updated
 with exactly the same flashdrive (build 802 and same activity bundle). So
 they should behave identically apart from hardware issues. But the issue
 below remains, any other clues I can look for?

Ok, that's very weird. Tell me, are they registered ok? Check that...

 - the XO does not list 'register' in the menu

 - the XS lists the XO when you run /home/idmgr/list_registrations

 - in Moodle, the 'course admin' user can see the relevant user
account under admin - users - browse

To be frank, I initially doubt it's a hw/sw problem because the
authentication depends on Browse.xo reading serial number / uuid of
the machine. If the sn/uuid are not readable (due to bad hardware, or
bad OFW), then the registration would fail as well.

cheers,


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Re: [Server-devel] Managing global site resources when using segregated groups

2009-12-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:27 AM, David Leeming
da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote:
 I am getting to grips with the impressive functionality of 0.6!

Surely you exaggerate ;-)

 -  I have global resources, i.e. a general library for everyone to
 view. I set this up as a course called “Library” and added (a) a link to a
 public folder that I set up on the XS, and (b) course folders with resources
 uploaded from the admin XO. I want ALL users to be able to see this course
 on the front page of Moodle. Initially, users are NOT assigned roles as
 students in the Library course. I set guest access.

That is a good start. Some hints (that you may be familiar with)... A
better alternative to achieve what you are after is to use a
_glossary_ in the 'site course' (the moodle homepage is a course with
a single section -- turn editing on to add a glossary there). It
goes like this

 - with the 'coursecreator´ XO, visit moodle homepage
 - turn editing on
 - add a new glossary -- name it 'Library'
 - add entries as desired, attach files where needed...
 - mark it as global (or sitewide) glossary

now, here is where it gets advanced... if you can login as the 'admin'
user (see the 'XS Techniques' wikipage), go to the 'filters'
configuration, and activate: activities autolink, glossary autolink.
Details here http://docs.moodle.org/en/Filters

(XS-0.7 will have these filter preconfigured...)

Now, if you have a glossary entry called Foobar, *any* text that
mentions Foobar will be auto-linked.

You can use 'Resource auto-link' but that is per-course, and won't
take a global set. So a global glossary is your ticket...

 -  I am wanting to divide my users into two classes, by setting up 2
 courses Class A and Class B, adding some to each using the admin XO course
 admin, assign roles (students)

Good.

 I switched on Presence and it works, i.e.  members of Class A can only see
 each other and members of Class B can only see each other. Both classes can
 see the teacher (admin XO in this case).

Excellent!

 The teacher can access the Library
 and share resources with ALL users at the same time. However, users can not
 see the Library themselves to access resources on their own.

Global glossary to the rescue...

 I then added all the users to the Library course, as students. Of course,
 predictably they can now see all the members of the other classes.

Yup, understood. Global glossary...

 A second question, two of my test XOs are B4s. In Moodle the front page
 comes up as a log on screen asking for username and password, despite the
 fact they are registered and appear in the admin OK.

Being B4 doesn't affect it (my XOs are a mix of B4s and C1s). Maybe
Browse.xo or the OS need to be upgraded.

hth,



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Re: [Server-devel] Managing global site resources when using segregated groups

2009-12-20 Thread David Leeming
That was very helpful, Martin. I will try the global glossary. I also noted
that if users are added as guests only, then they can see the resources but
are not connected by the presence service. A less elegant way to do it
perhaps.

On the B4s below, well I have two C1s and 2 B4s and they were all updated
with exactly the same flashdrive (build 802 and same activity bundle). So
they should behave identically apart from hardware issues. But the issue
below remains, any other clues I can look for?


 A second question, two of my test XOs are B4s. In Moodle the front page
 comes up as a log on screen asking for username and password, despite the
 fact they are registered and appear in the admin OK.

Being B4 doesn't affect it (my XOs are a mix of B4s and C1s). Maybe
Browse.xo or the OS need to be upgraded.

hth,



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