Re: [Server-devel] Missing XOs in neighbourhood view using XS

2008-07-22 Thread David Leeming
Hi,

In our case there were a few connected to simple mesh but we rebooted them
and made sure all were connected to the server mesh. It does look like the
issue on ticket 6884. Otherwise, the server works very well with our class
size of 25.

David Leeming
Honiara, Solomon Islands


-Original Message-
From: John Watlington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2008 11:10 p.m.
To: David Leeming
Cc: John Watlington; XS Devel; Martin Langhoff; Michail Bletsas
Subject: Re: Missing XOs in neighbourhood view using XS


There are two possible reasons.

The first is that you are still using the mesh, and mesh routing with  
that
number of laptops is capricious at best.

The second is a known problem exists which can also cause this:
  http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6884

We need to get ProcessOne to fix this problem with ejabberd.

Regards,
John

On Jul 21, 2008, at 7:37 PM, David Leeming wrote:

 Trying out the school server for the first time at a training  
 session in a Solomon Islands deployment. With 23 trainee teachers,  
 using G1G1 XO-1 laptops with build 703 (update 1). All registered  
 successfully and all able to connect to and access the server.

 It seemed to be working 100% but then we started noticing that it  
 was not unusual to  be missing some XOs on the neighbourhood view.  
 This was apparent with an exercise where people in groups of 4-5  
 tried to locate each other and make friends, in order to manage  
 sharing in smaller groups. Almost all of the groups could not  
 locate all of the other members of their group.

 I checked, all were registered, connected to the school mesh and  
 all could see most of the other laptops. But not 100% reliably all  
 of the others. Rebooting did not help much.

 This was in a very rural location with no cell phones, no wireless  
 access points apart from the XS active antenna, in a small wooden  
 classroom 6 x 6m. There was, however, an old inverter running; not  
 sure if that might have been making RF noise. We were running the  
 school server from a battery.

 I was using an XS set up to demonstrate the concept only, on a 4- 
 year old Toshiba A3 laptop.  I have a prototype active antenna.

 So (a) should I expect all the other laptops to be visible? And (b)  
 what is the maximum number of XOs per server?

 Server access seems very robust and very impressive. But the  
 unreliable collaboration is a disappointment, it was not much  
 better than a similar size group using the simple mesh. What could  
 be the reason?

 David Leeming
 Honiara, Solomon Islands, South Pacific


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Re: [Server-devel] Missing XOs in neighbourhood view using XS

2008-07-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:37 AM, David Leeming
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Trying out the school server for the first time at a training session in a
 Solomon Islands deployment. With 23 trainee teachers, using G1G1 XO-1
 laptops with build 703 (update 1). All registered successfully and all able
 to connect to and access the server.

Are you using an active antenna (AA) or an access point (AP) there?
Ah, I see below it is an AA. If you have an AP, can I suggest you try
that?

 It seemed to be working 100% but then we started noticing that it was not
 unusual to  be missing some XOs on the neighbourhood view. This was apparent
 with an exercise where people in groups of 4-5 tried to locate each other
 and make friends, in order to manage sharing in smaller groups. Almost all
 of the groups could not locate all of the other members of their group.

It would be interesting to hear what the missing laptops were
reporting from the olpc-netstatus command.

 So (a) should I expect all the other laptops to be visible? And (b) what is
 the maximum number of XOs per server?

With AAs and laptops in a dense setup (meaning close together) we are
seeing some trouble somewhere in the 10-20 machines range
unfortunately.On the other hand, if the machines that appeared to be
missing still could access the internet, then something else is afoot.

Of course, this is stuff we are working on.



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