Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
Yes! It works now with the right link! (I had used the link of EduBlog_Instructions). I could post well from th XO this way. 2 comments: - The cursor does not appear in the text area when writing the body. - It's not possible to handle the size of the image... However, this could wait for version 2 ;-) Now, let's talk about the user management. With my new user pflores I could login, then it asked me if I am sure to enroll to the course, y clicked Yes and it appears a banner: Sorry, but you do not currently have permissions to do that (Manage activities). I posted a screenshot of this in my new blog (blog creado desde XOhttp://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/view.php?id=15). When I hit Continue it takes me back to the home page. The other question is: How will children create their own account if it needs an administrator approval? It might become a bit impractical... Maybe it's better not needing the approval, and if there is some trouble, the admin can delete unwanted users, what you think? Now I'm gonna create a blog and give a teacher the instructions to work it in the class... Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, I realized that the links on the homepage were pointing to the old pages. I updates the links at wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog. Please let me know if that resolves the first issue you mentioned. Thanks, Tarun Pablo Flores wrote: Hi Tarun. I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they should when working in an XO. I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that is ok. When I go to the Create new blog link ( http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0), it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good. Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an error message that says: This course doesn't exist, and a Continue button. When I press it, it goes back to the home page. The same happens if I login with the user teacheres. If then I go again to the Create new blog link, I can see the courses page, but it's not possible to create a new course, there is no link or option for this. Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could fill in the registration form, but it never sends me the confirmation email, so I can't finish the process. Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the logout option never appears in the top-right of the page. I'll try to go on testing, but so far the administration is not working from the XO... Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, The version downloadable from: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the heading For Those with Build 656 has the new homepage. Please let me know if it works. About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it should be spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish localization). If that does not work, then I will force the setting to spanish and not try to detect the localization. About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real school each teachers and students have their own account. Then, they can do concurrent things without issues. My concern is that for the test it looks like we are going to use the same user account for everyone which can cause problems. If we can create separate user accounts for all the teachers and students testing, that would be ideal. Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out. Tarun Hi Tarun! Thanks for the great work you are doing! See comments below. Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version. Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right. I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system. What I found with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for teachers and children to make BrowseNew go straight to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I will get some time to finish with the instructions to start to work. Would it be possible to change this? I'm also thinking about how to configure the language. Currently, it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on that. We could
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
Tarun, you bring up a good point. What do we need to do to activate an email service on the XS server to allow this for moodle registrations? Tony Pearson Senior Storage Consultant, IBM System Storage™ Telephone: +1 520-799-4309 | tie 321-4309 | Cell: +1 520 990-8669 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GSA: http://tucgsa.ibm.com/~tpearson Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/InsideSystemStorage AKA: 990tony Paravane, eightbar specialist Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/14/2008 09:20 AM To Pablo Flores [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Pearson/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], marcel r [EMAIL PROTECTED], Said Ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED], Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED], server-devel@lists.laptop.org Subject Re: Testing EduBlog Hi Pablo, Yes! It works now with the right link! (I had used the link of EduBlog_Instructions). Great! Did you have a chance to look at the modified blog creation interface? I moved the settings into that page so teachers can directly link their own Blogger.com blogs rather than having an admin configuring the blogs for them. I think this is easier to use. However, we can revert to the other version if you disagree. I could post well from th XO this way. 2 comments: - The cursor does not appear in the text area when writing the body. - It's not possible to handle the size of the image... However, this could wait for version 2 ;-) Looking into it. Now, let's talk about the user management. With my new user pflores I could login, then it asked me if I am sure to enroll to the course, y clicked Yes and it appears a banner: Sorry, but you do not currently have permissions to do that (Manage activities). I posted a screenshot of this in my new blog (blog creado desde XO http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/view.php?id=15 ). When I hit Continue it takes me back to the home page. Were you trying to post to a blog or create a new blog? When you enrol you are by default a student so you can post to blogs and view them but not make new ones. I tested creating a new account and these links work. To create a new blog, an admin needs to set your account to a teacher level. How do you envision the ideal process for user registration for our test? (I think when fully completed and installed on the XS, Moodle will authenticate based on the MAC address of the XO) The other question is: How will children create their own account if it needs an administrator approval? It might become a bit impractical... Maybe it's better not needing the approval, and if there is some trouble, the admin can delete unwanted users, what you think? Moodle gives us several authentication options. I will try to implement what you are suggesting as an auth module. Students can just register without any confirmation. Also, email based registration won't work because as far as I know, the XS does not have an email service. Thanks, Tarun On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, I realized that the links on the homepage were pointing to the old pages. I updates the links at wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog. Please let me know if that resolves the first issue you mentioned. Thanks, Tarun Pablo Flores wrote: Hi Tarun. I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they should when working in an XO. I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that is ok. When I go to the Create new blog link ( http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0 ), it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good. Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an error message that says: This course doesn't exist, and a Continue button. When I press it, it goes back to the home page. The same happens if I login with the user teacheres. If then I go again to the Create new blog link, I can see the courses page, but it's not possible to create a new course, there is no link or option for this. Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could fill in the registration form, but it never sends me the confirmation email, so I can't finish the process. Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the logout option never appears in the
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
Hi Tony, I think for now we will avoid sending mail from the server. I hacked the auth module to bypass the email validation. Thanks, Tarun Tarun, you bring up a good point. What do we need to do to activate an email service on the XS server to allow this for moodle registrations? *Tony Pearson* Senior Storage Consultant, IBM System Storage™ Telephone: +1 520-799-4309 | tie 321-4309 | Cell: +1 520 990-8669 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GSA: http://tucgsa.ibm.com/~tpearson Blog: _http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/InsideSystemStorage_ AKA: 990tony Paravane, eightbar specialist *Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED]* 08/14/2008 09:20 AM To Pablo Flores [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Pearson/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], marcel r [EMAIL PROTECTED], Said Ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED], Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED], server-devel@lists.laptop.org Subject Re: Testing EduBlog Hi Pablo, Yes! It works now with the right link! (I had used the link of EduBlog_Instructions). Great! Did you have a chance to look at the modified blog creation interface? I moved the settings into that page so teachers can directly link their own Blogger.com blogs rather than having an admin configuring the blogs for them. I think this is easier to use. However, we can revert to the other version if you disagree. I could post well from th XO this way. 2 comments: - The cursor does not appear in the text area when writing the body. - It's not possible to handle the size of the image... However, this could wait for version 2 ;-) Looking into it. Now, let's talk about the user management. With my new user pflores I could login, then it asked me if I am sure to enroll to the course, y clicked Yes and it appears a banner: Sorry, but you do not currently have permissions to do that (Manage activities). I posted a screenshot of this in my new blog (blog creado desde XO http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/view.php?id=15). When I hit Continue it takes me back to the home page. Were you trying to post to a blog or create a new blog? When you enrol you are by default a student so you can post to blogs and view them but not make new ones. I tested creating a new account and these links work. To create a new blog, an admin needs to set your account to a teacher level. How do you envision the ideal process for user registration for our test? (I think when fully completed and installed on the XS, Moodle will authenticate based on the MAC address of the XO) The other question is: How will children create their own account if it needs an administrator approval? It might become a bit impractical... Maybe it's better not needing the approval, and if there is some trouble, the admin can delete unwanted users, what you think? Moodle gives us several authentication options. I will try to implement what you are suggesting as an auth module. Students can just register without any confirmation. Also, email based registration won't work because as far as I know, the XS does not have an email service. Thanks, Tarun On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, I realized that the links on the homepage were pointing to the old pages. I updates the links at wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog. Please let me know if that resolves the first issue you mentioned. Thanks, Tarun Pablo Flores wrote: Hi Tarun. I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they should when working in an XO. I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that is ok. When I go to the Create new blog link (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0), it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good. Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an error message that says: This course doesn't exist, and a Continue button. When I press it, it goes back to the home page. The same happens if I login with the user teacheres. If then I go again to the Create new blog link, I can see the courses page, but it's not possible to create a new course, there is no link or option for this.
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
Hi Pablo, I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version. Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right. I'm also thinking about how to configure the language. Currently, it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on that. We could also change it to force es not matter what. Which do you think is better? Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time with the same username, it may break things. Is this something to worry about, or will the system be tested by one person at a time? Thanks, Tarun On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, *Creating a new blog * * The login page isn't in spanish The UI can be switched to Spanish easily, this will be done in the next update after we get abiword working. Great! * I'm not sure how to manage users with EduBlog I think we should start a wiki page to start documenting (and discussing it). Volunteers? :-) I'm not sure the best way either. There are many many options. I thought the easiest is to just do a bulk upload of all the students. We can also allow students to register themselves or an admin to enter all of them. Comments on which would be best would be really helpful. Students also should only have to login once. Yes, maybe the best way is making a registration form. Once the child is registered, it shouldn't be asked the user/password everytime, it should stay registered in the laptop. One important feature would be letting children use different registration systems, like OpenId... Having many user/password is very confusing for children and even more for teachers! * In the Adding a new OU blog form, I can't access the Manage Remote Blogs button, it takes me to a page that says Sorry, but you do not currently have permissions to do that ([[oublog:manageremoteblogs]]) More information about this error http://docs.moodle.org/en/error/moodle/nopermissions. * I will look into this, but you need teacher not student login. If you are logged in as student, you would have to logout. It doesn't work logged in as teacher. Do teacher's and students share the same machine? Let's assume that teacher do their managing tasks (creating blogs, etc.) from their own laptops. * It would be better if some options could be hidden, like Common module settings. This will be done in the next update. There is button to show all the advanced options at the bottom if needed. Ok. *New blog post* * From the moodle interface, I couldn't upload any picture. I could use the other interface (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=2), but with this one I cannot select the blog to post to. * For this demo, there was only one blog. The jump to link at the top right was to be used to select other blogs. Perhaps it should be repositioned? Mmmh... students should select the blog in which they'll be working before starting to write the post... otherwise could lead to a lot of confussion in the class... * I tried to upload a Write document, but I couldn't from any of the interfaces (am I doing right? I tried to upload the file as an image). Not implemented yet, hopefully this will work after we get abiword on the server. Ok. I also would like to summarize some points of how the daily work would be. Let's see... * First of all, the teacher will have to get a user and password for the system. * The teacher creates a new blog using the interface http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=2section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=2section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=2section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=2section=0return=0 * All of her children have to get a user and password. Yes, and it will be saved on the XO so only needs to be entered one time. Ok! * Then, the teacher can propose some work to be done, for which children will have to make their posts to the blog. To do so, children will have to access to the blog page (the moodle one), and click on New blog post.
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
Hi Tarun! Thanks for the great work you are doing! See comments below. Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version. Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right. I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system. What I found with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for teachers and children to make BrowseNew go straight to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I will get some time to finish with the instructions to start to work. Would it be possible to change this? I'm also thinking about how to configure the language. Currently, it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on that. We could also change it to force es not matter what. Which do you think is better? For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-) Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time with the same username, it may break things. Is this something to worry about, or will the system be tested by one person at a time? Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The normal workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work in and blog about it, then children start to work altogether what problems may happen? Thanks, Tarun On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, *Creating a new blog * * The login page isn't in spanish The UI can be switched to Spanish easily, this will be done in the next update after we get abiword working. Great! * I'm not sure how to manage users with EduBlog I think we should start a wiki page to start documenting (and discussing it). Volunteers? :-) I'm not sure the best way either. There are many many options. I thought the easiest is to just do a bulk upload of all the students. We can also allow students to register themselves or an admin to enter all of them. Comments on which would be best would be really helpful. Students also should only have to login once. Yes, maybe the best way is making a registration form. Once the child is registered, it shouldn't be asked the user/password everytime, it should stay registered in the laptop. One important feature would be letting children use different registration systems, like OpenId... Having many user/password is very confusing for children and even more for teachers! * In the Adding a new OU blog form, I can't access the Manage Remote Blogs button, it takes me to a page that says Sorry, but you do not currently have permissions to do that ([[oublog:manageremoteblogs]]) More information about this error http://docs.moodle.org/en/error/moodle/nopermissions. * I will look into this, but you need teacher not student login. If you are logged in as student, you would have to logout. It doesn't work logged in as teacher. Do teacher's and students share the same machine? Let's assume that teacher do their managing tasks (creating blogs, etc.) from their own laptops. * It would be better if some options could be hidden, like Common module settings. This will be done in the next update. There is button to show all the advanced options at the bottom if needed. Ok. *New blog post* * From the moodle interface, I couldn't upload any picture. I could use the other interface ( http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=2 ), but with this one I cannot select the blog to post to. * For this demo, there was only one blog. The jump to link at the top right was to be used to select other blogs. Perhaps it should be repositioned? Mmmh... students should select the blog in which they'll be working before starting to write the post... otherwise could lead to a lot of confussion in the class... * I tried to upload a Write document, but I couldn't from any of the interfaces (am I doing right? I tried to upload the file as an image). Not implemented yet, hopefully this will work after we get abiword on the server. Ok. I also would like to summarize some points of how the daily work would be. Let's see... * First of all, the teacher will have to get a user and password for the system. * The teacher creates a new blog using the interface http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=2section=0return=0
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
Hi Tarun. I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they should when working in an XO. I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that is ok. When I go to the Create new blog link ( http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0), it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good. Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an error message that says: This course doesn't exist, and a Continue button. When I press it, it goes back to the home page. The same happens if I login with the user teacheres. If then I go again to the Create new blog link, I can see the courses page, but it's not possible to create a new course, there is no link or option for this. Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could fill in the registration form, but it never sends me the confirmation email, so I can't finish the process. Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the logout option never appears in the top-right of the page. I'll try to go on testing, but so far the administration is not working from the XO... Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, The version downloadable from: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the heading For Those with Build 656 has the new homepage. Please let me know if it works. About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it should be spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish localization). If that does not work, then I will force the setting to spanish and not try to detect the localization. About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real school each teachers and students have their own account. Then, they can do concurrent things without issues. My concern is that for the test it looks like we are going to use the same user account for everyone which can cause problems. If we can create separate user accounts for all the teachers and students testing, that would be ideal. Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out. Tarun Hi Tarun! Thanks for the great work you are doing! See comments below. Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version. Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right. I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system. What I found with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for teachers and children to make BrowseNew go straight to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I will get some time to finish with the instructions to start to work. Would it be possible to change this? I'm also thinking about how to configure the language. Currently, it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on that. We could also change it to force es not matter what. Which do you think is better? For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-) Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time with the same username, it may break things. Is this something to worry about, or will the system be tested by one person at a time? Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The normal workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work in and blog about it, then children start to work altogether what problems may happen? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
The other point I'm not understanding well is: How does the student or the teacher choose in which blog she will post when going to the New blog post link? ( http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=4 ) Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Pablo Flores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tarun. I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they should when working in an XO. I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that is ok. When I go to the Create new blog link ( http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0), it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good. Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an error message that says: This course doesn't exist, and a Continue button. When I press it, it goes back to the home page. The same happens if I login with the user teacheres. If then I go again to the Create new blog link, I can see the courses page, but it's not possible to create a new course, there is no link or option for this. Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could fill in the registration form, but it never sends me the confirmation email, so I can't finish the process. Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the logout option never appears in the top-right of the page. I'll try to go on testing, but so far the administration is not working from the XO... Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, The version downloadable from: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the heading For Those with Build 656 has the new homepage. Please let me know if it works. About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it should be spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish localization). If that does not work, then I will force the setting to spanish and not try to detect the localization. About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real school each teachers and students have their own account. Then, they can do concurrent things without issues. My concern is that for the test it looks like we are going to use the same user account for everyone which can cause problems. If we can create separate user accounts for all the teachers and students testing, that would be ideal. Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out. Tarun Hi Tarun! Thanks for the great work you are doing! See comments below. Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version. Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right. I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system. What I found with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for teachers and children to make BrowseNew go straight to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I will get some time to finish with the instructions to start to work. Would it be possible to change this? I'm also thinking about how to configure the language. Currently, it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on that. We could also change it to force es not matter what. Which do you think is better? For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-) Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time with the same username, it may break things. Is this something to worry about, or will the system be tested by one person at a time? Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The normal workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work in and blog about it, then children start to work altogether what problems may happen? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
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Hi Pablo, The list of blogs shows up here: http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/index.php?id=3 My idea is that the teacher or student will start on that page, and then click on the blog they want to post to or manage. Do you think that will work? Thanks, Tarun Pablo Flores wrote: The other point I'm not understanding well is: How does the student or the teacher choose in which blog she will post when going to the New blog post link? (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=4) Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Pablo Flores [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tarun. I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they should when working in an XO. I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that is ok. When I go to the Create new blog link (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0), it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good. Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an error message that says: This course doesn't exist, and a Continue button. When I press it, it goes back to the home page. The same happens if I login with the user teacheres. If then I go again to the Create new blog link, I can see the courses page, but it's not possible to create a new course, there is no link or option for this. Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could fill in the registration form, but it never sends me the confirmation email, so I can't finish the process. Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the logout option never appears in the top-right of the page. I'll try to go on testing, but so far the administration is not working from the XO... Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, The version downloadable from: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the heading For Those with Build 656 has the new homepage. Please let me know if it works. About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it should be spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish localization). If that does not work, then I will force the setting to spanish and not try to detect the localization. About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real school each teachers and students have their own account. Then, they can do concurrent things without issues. My concern is that for the test it looks like we are going to use the same user account for everyone which can cause problems. If we can create separate user accounts for all the teachers and students testing, that would be ideal. Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out. Tarun Hi Tarun! Thanks for the great work you are doing! See comments below. Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version. Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right. I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system. What I found with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for teachers and children to make BrowseNew go straight to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I will get some time to finish with the instructions to start to work. Would it be possible to change this? I'm also thinking about how to configure the language. Currently, it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on that. We could also change it to force es not matter what. Which do you think is better? For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-) Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time with the same username, it may break things. Is this something to worry about, or will the system be tested by one person
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
Hi Pablo, I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that is ok. When I go to the Create new blog link (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0), it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good. Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an error message that says: This course doesn't exist, and a Continue button. When I press it, it goes back to the home page. The same happens if I login with the user teacheres. If then I go again to the Create new blog link, I can see the courses page, but it's not possible to create a new course, there is no link or option for this. I'm afraid I can't reproduce this problem. Could you please try again and take a screen shot of the error page (Alt 1 on the XO)? Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could fill in the registration form, but it never sends me the confirmation email, so I can't finish the process. You would need to be approved by the admin. I have done that. Let me know if you have any more difficulty logging in. Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the logout option never appears in the top-right of the page. Greg told me to remove all the Moodle options. They will show up if you click Show at the bottom left of the page. Should I show login/logout by default? Also, the interface for Create New Blog will now let you enter your own connection details to connect to your own Blogger blog. Thanks, Tarun Hi Pablo, The version downloadable from: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the heading For Those with Build 656 has the new homepage. Please let me know if it works. About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it should be spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish localization). If that does not work, then I will force the setting to spanish and not try to detect the localization. About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real school each teachers and students have their own account. Then, they can do concurrent things without issues. My concern is that for the test it looks like we are going to use the same user account for everyone which can cause problems. If we can create separate user accounts for all the teachers and students testing, that would be ideal. Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out. Tarun Hi Tarun! Thanks for the great work you are doing! See comments below. Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version. Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right. I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system. What I found with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for teachers and children to make BrowseNew go straight to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I will get some time to finish with the instructions to start to work. Would it be possible to change this? I'm also thinking about how to configure the language. Currently, it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on that. We could also change it to force es not matter what. Which do you think is better? For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-) Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time with the same username, it may break things. Is this something to worry about, or will the system be tested by one person at a time? Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The normal workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work in and blog about it, then children start to work altogether what problems may happen? On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
Hi Pablo, I realized that the links on the homepage were pointing to the old pages. I updates the links at wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog. Please let me know if that resolves the first issue you mentioned. Thanks, Tarun Pablo Flores wrote: Hi Tarun. I'm afraid some things in EduBlog are not working as they should when working in an XO. I downloaded the last BrowseNew, which has the new homepage, that is ok. When I go to the Create new blog link (http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=3section=0return=0), it takes me to the moodle login in spanish, so far so good. Then if I try to login with the user teacher, it takes me to an error message that says: This course doesn't exist, and a Continue button. When I press it, it goes back to the home page. The same happens if I login with the user teacheres. If then I go again to the Create new blog link, I can see the courses page, but it's not possible to create a new course, there is no link or option for this. Another problem I found trying to create a new user: I could fill in the registration form, but it never sends me the confirmation email, so I can't finish the process. Other strange behaviour in the XO, is that the logout option never appears in the top-right of the page. I'll try to go on testing, but so far the administration is not working from the XO... Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, The version downloadable from: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog_Instructions under the heading For Those with Build 656 has the new homepage. Please let me know if it works. About, the lang settings, when you go to any of the pages it should be spanish (assuming your xo is using the spanish localization). If that does not work, then I will force the setting to spanish and not try to detect the localization. About multiple users, I was thinking that in a real school each teachers and students have their own account. Then, they can do concurrent things without issues. My concern is that for the test it looks like we are going to use the same user account for everyone which can cause problems. If we can create separate user accounts for all the teachers and students testing, that would be ideal. Thanks for taking the time to test this stuff out. Tarun Hi Tarun! Thanks for the great work you are doing! See comments below. Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pablo, I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version. Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right. I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system. What I found with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for teachers and children to make BrowseNew go straight to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I will get some time to finish with the instructions to start to work. Would it be possible to change this? I'm also thinking about how to configure the language. Currently, it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on that. We could also change it to force es not matter what. Which do you think is better? For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-) Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time with the same username, it may break things. Is this something to worry about, or will the system be tested by one person at a time? Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The normal workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work in and blog about it, then children start to work altogether what problems may happen? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
I've just done a test sequence on EduBlog and have a lot of comments and questions, so let's start step by step... *Creating a new blog * - The login page isn't in spanish - I'm not sure how to manage users with EduBlog I think we should start a wiki page to start documenting (and discussing it). Volunteers? :-) - In the Adding a new OU blog form, I can't access the Manage Remote Blogs button, it takes me to a page that says Sorry, but you do not currently have permissions to do that ([[oublog:manageremoteblogs]]) More information about this errorhttp://docs.moodle.org/en/error/moodle/nopermissions. * - It would be better if some options could be hidden, like Common module settings. *New blog post* - From the moodle interface, I couldn't upload any picture. I could use the other interface ( http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=2), but with this one I cannot select the blog to post to. * - I tried to upload a Write document, but I couldn't from any of the interfaces (am I doing right? I tried to upload the file as an image). I marked with * the points I find more important. I also would like to summarize some points of how the daily work would be. Let's see... - First of all, the teacher will have to get a user and password for the system. - The teacher creates a new blog using the interface http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=2section=0return=0 - All of her children have to get a user and password. - Then, the teacher can propose some work to be done, for which children will have to make their posts to the blog. To do so, children will have to access to the blog page (the moodle one), and click on New blog post. - As children submit their posts, the teacher will be able to see them in the blog page. Children will only see their own posts and the ones already approved by the teacher. Question: How can a child know if his post was approved? - The approved posts will go public, depending on the configuration: If there is a remote blog configured (blogspot for instance), they will appear there. If it's local only, it will be seen by others, depending on the visibility configuration of the blog. All agree with this? Saludos, Pablo Flores ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
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Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, *Creating a new blog * * The login page isn't in spanish The UI can be switched to Spanish easily, this will be done in the next update after we get abiword working. Great! * I'm not sure how to manage users with EduBlog I think we should start a wiki page to start documenting (and discussing it). Volunteers? :-) I'm not sure the best way either. There are many many options. I thought the easiest is to just do a bulk upload of all the students. We can also allow students to register themselves or an admin to enter all of them. Comments on which would be best would be really helpful. Students also should only have to login once. Yes, maybe the best way is making a registration form. Once the child is registered, it shouldn't be asked the user/password everytime, it should stay registered in the laptop. One important feature would be letting children use different registration systems, like OpenId... Having many user/password is very confusing for children and even more for teachers! * In the Adding a new OU blog form, I can't access the Manage Remote Blogs button, it takes me to a page that says Sorry, but you do not currently have permissions to do that ([[oublog:manageremoteblogs]]) More information about this error http://docs.moodle.org/en/error/moodle/nopermissions. * I will look into this, but you need teacher not student login. If you are logged in as student, you would have to logout. It doesn't work logged in as teacher. Do teacher's and students share the same machine? Let's assume that teacher do their managing tasks (creating blogs, etc.) from their own laptops. * It would be better if some options could be hidden, like Common module settings. This will be done in the next update. There is button to show all the advanced options at the bottom if needed. Ok. *New blog post* * From the moodle interface, I couldn't upload any picture. I could use the other interface ( http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=2 ), but with this one I cannot select the blog to post to. * For this demo, there was only one blog. The jump to link at the top right was to be used to select other blogs. Perhaps it should be repositioned? Mmmh... students should select the blog in which they'll be working before starting to write the post... otherwise could lead to a lot of confussion in the class... * I tried to upload a Write document, but I couldn't from any of the interfaces (am I doing right? I tried to upload the file as an image). Not implemented yet, hopefully this will work after we get abiword on the server. Ok. I also would like to summarize some points of how the daily work would be. Let's see... * First of all, the teacher will have to get a user and password for the system. * The teacher creates a new blog using the interface http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=2section=0return=0 http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublogtype=course=2section=0return=0 * All of her children have to get a user and password. Yes, and it will be saved on the XO so only needs to be entered one time. Ok! * Then, the teacher can propose some work to be done, for which children will have to make their posts to the blog. To do so, children will have to access to the blog page (the moodle one), and click on New blog post. * As children submit their posts, the teacher will be able to see them in the blog page. Children will only see their own posts and the ones already approved by the teacher. Question: How can a child know if his post was approved? Hm, I did not think of this. We could automatically post a comment locally. What would you suggest? I'm not sure how teachers and students communicate on the XO. We discussed this issue time ago with some friends of a graphics design company that was studying how children interfaces should be. The conclusion we arrived to is that the best would be to remark the state of the post graphically on the blog. For instance, keeping in gray the posts that are still not approved. I don't know if it can be implemented easily. Teachers could also use the comments form to give feedback, although the most common way would be the straight talk in the class... * The approved posts will go public, depending on the configuration: If there is a remote blog configured (blogspot for instance), they will appear there. If it's local only, it will be seen by others, depending on the visibility configuration of the blog. All agree with this? That looks to be all in accordance with what we are
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
Hi Tarun! I agree with Greg you've done an excellent work! We will always have new requirements, which mean new schedules, but it doesn't mean you didn't meet yours. Thank you! Best regards, Pablo Flores On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tarun, Thanks. I think Pablo is the primary driver of requirements and priorities now. As long as he appreciates that we only have one more week of coding time, we should try to do whatever he needs to get us to Beta and real blog posts from real schools. You have done a super job! Way above and beyond the call of duty and beyond all expectations. The Abiword conversion thing is really tough but its a huge win if it allows uploading images from Write to EduBlog. We changed the requirements. So you didn't miss the deadline, we missed the requirements. Feel free to use that one in the future if you have another paid programming job :-) Have a good trip back and thanks a lot for your hard work. Greg S Tarun Pondicherry wrote: Hi Greg, FYI presentation will be in 1CC at 12:30 - 1:30 US ET Friday so please don't mess with the server for that hour. We won't touch the server until after the demo is all done. Especially since this abiword stuff affects the whole server and is therefore potentially dangerous. Send over any presentation or demo stuff you have done already (we will use it eventually) but top priority is doing what Pablo needs to start the beta. If all goes perfectly well, we should be ready by Wednesday, Friday if there are minor glitches. Sorry for missing the August 1st target, I did not foresee this Write issue in 656. Marcel made good progress in getting abiword installed and there are now a few dependencies to resolve. I am mostly trying to perfect the UI with Pablo's suggestions and we can test both areas of work after abiword is installed. I like your idea of using the mockup/backup for the demo. I just tested the version at: http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/mockup/ui/student_sp.php and it is working. In the event something goes wrong with that, the older version at: http://olpc.betarun.com/dev/ui/student_sp.php is also still up. == Also, I'm flying back Friday night and will be offline until Monday. == Thanks, Tarun ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
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Hi Pablo, * I'm not sure how to manage users with EduBlog I think we should start a wiki page to start documenting (and discussing it). Volunteers? :-) I'm not sure the best way either. There are many many options. I thought the easiest is to just do a bulk upload of all the students. We can also allow students to register themselves or an admin to enter all of them. Comments on which would be best would be really helpful. Students also should only have to login once. Yes, maybe the best way is making a registration form. Once the child is registered, it shouldn't be asked the user/password everytime, it should stay registered in the laptop. One important feature would be letting children use different registration systems, like OpenId... Having many user/password is very confusing for children and even more for teachers! Do you think using the standard Moodle user management pages would work for this task? Admins would have to manually add the students, or the students can sign up and get approved. Users can also be signed up from a bulk csv file. I also think that once this is on the XS, the auth will be possible by just identifying the XO the request came from. I agree that some kind of integration with OpenID would be good for future versions where perhaps we tie each XO to an OpenID or something like that. *New blog post* For this demo, there was only one blog. The jump to link at the top right was to be used to select other blogs. Perhaps it should be repositioned? Mmmh... students should select the blog in which they'll be working before starting to write the post... otherwise could lead to a lot of confussion in the class... There is already a page that lists all the blogs for a given course. Would you like the students to see that page first and then click on which blog to post to? Also, I'm trying to create a usable workflow for teachers to create a new Blogger.com blog and link it to EduBlog. Do teachers each have one blog or do they have many blogs under the same OpenID/GoogleID? We may need to make this a two step process where first they enter their username and password (for Google) and then a list of their Blogger blogs are retrieved and they select the one they want to add to EduBlog. Thanks, Tarun ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:42:58PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Scott and Michael raised the question of why we didn't build it as a .xo only project with no need for server. I explained the constraints of time and image in Uruguay and they understood that. There were less convinced that it should be a web app instead of built in to Write but on further discussion I think they understood that the dynamic nature of EduBlog (that teachers can change and control where the students post to and what they see e.g. frog blog) makes it hard to build in to Write. I was happy to see that you brought your project so far so quickly and I was pleased that you were able to use technologies (e.g. Moodle) familiar to the people you recruited to assist you; however, I felt very strongly that the architecture you chose was alien to the 'no-server-needed-but-we'll-use-one-if-it's-available' architecture underlying the XO (and stated most clearly in Scott's Network Principles document). Michael ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
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Michael, how did you envision publishing a blog on the Internet without the use of a server? The kids are using the write activity to compose their posts. I'm confused by your comment. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:42:58PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Scott and Michael raised the question of why we didn't build it as a .xo only project with no need for server. I explained the constraints of time and image in Uruguay and they understood that. There were less convinced that it should be a web app instead of built in to Write but on further discussion I think they understood that the dynamic nature of EduBlog (that teachers can change and control where the students post to and what they see e.g. frog blog) makes it hard to build in to Write. I was happy to see that you brought your project so far so quickly and I was pleased that you were able to use technologies (e.g. Moodle) familiar to the people you recruited to assist you; however, I felt very strongly that the architecture you chose was alien to the 'no-server-needed-but-we'll-use-one-if-it's-available' architecture underlying the XO (and stated most clearly in Scott's Network Principles document). Michael ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck -- George Carlin ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
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On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 12:45:24PM -0700, Carol Lerche wrote: Michael, how did you envision publishing a blog on the Internet without the use of a server? The kids are using the write activity to compose their posts. I'm confused by your comment. Carol, I'm sorry I confused you. I envisioned that publishing content generated in Write might be conducted by teaching Write how to push content directly to the blog-server or by teaching Sugar how to push generic Sugar content to the blog-server. I further envisioned that the student - teacher - blog workflow might be accomplished by having the student invite the teacher to the Write instance for which publishing is desired, then by having the teacher run the 'publish' action described above. This way, the EduBlog effort might have provided its desired workflows and made a direct contribution to Sugar-based publishing in general. Michael ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
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On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stated most clearly in Scott's Network Principles document. The principle outlined there is interesting, but we are slowly trying to prove it is also workable. So I would not task Tarun with delivering something usable to Uy users while achieving something that we know is bloody hard. Delivering to end users within the given constraints - including schedule and expertise - takes priority. So while many things are theoretically possible to do serverless, doing them on the server is more expedient and reliable, so we do because we want to deliver. In time we might shift more stuff to the server-less space. Just pragmatism and focus on end-users. cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
Hi Tarun, Thanks. I think Pablo is the primary driver of requirements and priorities now. As long as he appreciates that we only have one more week of coding time, we should try to do whatever he needs to get us to Beta and real blog posts from real schools. You have done a super job! Way above and beyond the call of duty and beyond all expectations. The Abiword conversion thing is really tough but its a huge win if it allows uploading images from Write to EduBlog. We changed the requirements. So you didn't miss the deadline, we missed the requirements. Feel free to use that one in the future if you have another paid programming job :-) Have a good trip back and thanks a lot for your hard work. Greg S Tarun Pondicherry wrote: Hi Greg, FYI presentation will be in 1CC at 12:30 - 1:30 US ET Friday so please don't mess with the server for that hour. We won't touch the server until after the demo is all done. Especially since this abiword stuff affects the whole server and is therefore potentially dangerous. Send over any presentation or demo stuff you have done already (we will use it eventually) but top priority is doing what Pablo needs to start the beta. If all goes perfectly well, we should be ready by Wednesday, Friday if there are minor glitches. Sorry for missing the August 1st target, I did not foresee this Write issue in 656. Marcel made good progress in getting abiword installed and there are now a few dependencies to resolve. I am mostly trying to perfect the UI with Pablo's suggestions and we can test both areas of work after abiword is installed. I like your idea of using the mockup/backup for the demo. I just tested the version at: http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/mockup/ui/student_sp.php and it is working. In the event something goes wrong with that, the older version at: http://olpc.betarun.com/dev/ui/student_sp.php is also still up. == Also, I'm flying back Friday night and will be offline until Monday. == Thanks, Tarun ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
Hi Tarun et al, The presentation went well and there were applause when I posted some pictures and text to blogger.com! Scott and Michael raised the question of why we didn't build it as a .xo only project with no need for server. I explained the constraints of time and image in Uruguay and they understood that. There were less convinced that it should be a web app instead of built in to Write but on further discussion I think they understood that the dynamic nature of EduBlog (that teachers can change and control where the students post to and what they see e.g. frog blog) makes it hard to build in to Write. Scott raised some future ideas (e.g. a blackboard activity for the teachers XO) and we talked about collaboration in a general sense. Good discussion which may lead to some valuable thinking re: 9.1.0. In short, it was a great demo! I'll help write up a 1 hour PPT we can deliver in late August to wrap up. You can prepare the final report for SJ instead if you prefer. I just hope we have some new posts from kids to show off within the next two weeks ... Thanks, Greg S Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:49:01 +0100 From: Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Pablo Flores [EMAIL PROTECTED], server-devel@lists.laptop.org, marcel r [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Greg, FYI presentation will be in 1CC at 12:30 - 1:30 US ET Friday so please don't mess with the server for that hour. We won't touch the server until after the demo is all done. Especially since this abiword stuff affects the whole server and is therefore potentially dangerous. Send over any presentation or demo stuff you have done already (we will use it eventually) but top priority is doing what Pablo needs to start the beta. If all goes perfectly well, we should be ready by Wednesday, Friday if there are minor glitches. Sorry for missing the August 1st target, I did not foresee this Write issue in 656. Marcel made good progress in getting abiword installed and there are now a few dependencies to resolve. I am mostly trying to perfect the UI with Pablo's suggestions and we can test both areas of work after abiword is installed. I like your idea of using the mockup/backup for the demo. I just tested the version at: http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/mockup/ui/student_sp.php and it is working. In the event something goes wrong with that, the older version at: http://olpc.betarun.com/dev/ui/student_sp.php is also still up. == Also, I'm flying back Friday night and will be offline until Monday. == Thanks, Tarun ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Testing EduBlog
Hi Greg, FYI presentation will be in 1CC at 12:30 - 1:30 US ET Friday so please don't mess with the server for that hour. We won't touch the server until after the demo is all done. Especially since this abiword stuff affects the whole server and is therefore potentially dangerous. Send over any presentation or demo stuff you have done already (we will use it eventually) but top priority is doing what Pablo needs to start the beta. If all goes perfectly well, we should be ready by Wednesday, Friday if there are minor glitches. Sorry for missing the August 1st target, I did not foresee this Write issue in 656. Marcel made good progress in getting abiword installed and there are now a few dependencies to resolve. I am mostly trying to perfect the UI with Pablo's suggestions and we can test both areas of work after abiword is installed. I like your idea of using the mockup/backup for the demo. I just tested the version at: http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/mockup/ui/student_sp.php and it is working. In the event something goes wrong with that, the older version at: http://olpc.betarun.com/dev/ui/student_sp.php is also still up. == Also, I'm flying back Friday night and will be offline until Monday. == Thanks, Tarun ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
