Re: [Server-devel] Ubuntu XS To: Michael Stone

2008-08-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 03:23:45PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
>> The main challenge with using Debian or something besides Fedora is that
>> you would have to install and support the code separately.
>
> This may be an acceptable cost given the high Debian packaging
> experience within the volunteer base that Pia has working with her.

We had this discussion last week :-) no need to rehash it. I kindly
request that anyone prepared to get into this effort think through my
comments on this, specially the 20% vs 80%



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Re: [Server-devel] Ubuntu XS To: Michael Stone

2008-08-25 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 03:23:45PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
> The main challenge with using Debian or something besides Fedora is that 
> you would have to install and support the code separately.

This may be an acceptable cost given the high Debian packaging
experience within the volunteer base that Pia has working with her.

> However, if you want eJabberd (collaboration SW) or XO updates off XS or 
> some other custom thing built by Martin and team, then you may have 
> extra work.

ejabberd is available in Debian Lenny now, so repackaging current
sources for Debian should not be difficult.  Repackaging from an RPM
source isn't terribly hard, and there are also tools that can be used at
a pinch to make it easier.

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Re: [Server-devel] Ubuntu XS To: Michael Stone

2008-08-25 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Pia,

Sorry for the delay, I was on vacation.

I don't know too much about the Uruguay Debian server implementation. 
They are time constrained in the core Latu team (e.g. Emilano) so not 
likely to answer generic questions.

You can try the Uruguay list: http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-uruguay

That is all volunteers but the people there know the Latu team and can 
probably get details on what they run on their XS, if needed.

The main challenge with using Debian or something besides Fedora is that 
you would have to install and support the code separately.

For example, I believe that Uruguay uses their XS for routing, filtering 
(possibly with Dansguardian), maybe caching with Squid, probably NAT. 
Basic gateway server stuff. If that is all you need and Debian has it 
ready then it should be no problem.

However, if you want eJabberd (collaboration SW) or XO updates off XS or 
some other custom thing built by Martin and team, then you may have 
extra work.

HTHs.

BTW Tony did make a triple boot server which boots to XS, Fedora or 
Debian for the EduBlog project. It only ran the XS for our purposes but 
you may find the details of SW and HW informative. See: 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Educational_Blogger_Project#Beta_Server_Hardware_and_Software_Details
and follow the links for more info. Not for the faint of heart!

FYI I'm overdue for an EduBlog update. We did get kids to create a new 
blog within our Moodle. I need to follow up and see if they can create 
one on blogger.com or if we can make their Moodle blog public. More later.

Thanks,

Greg S

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:29:27 +1000 From: Pia Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Ubuntu XS To: Michael Stone 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, XS 
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charset=us-ascii Hi Michael, 
 > > Uruguay already uses a Debian-basex XS (which is quite different from
 > > Martin's) and which includes some MAC-address filtering technology.
 > > (They've also expressed great interest in expanding this technology 
into
 > > a full 802.11i/802.1x/EAP/RADIUS authentication system, which seems 
like
 > > it might be of mutual interest.)
 > >
 > > Greg Smith and Emiliano Pastorino could probably give you some good
 > > introductions if you'd like to try to collaborate with LATU.

That would be great! Are they both on this list?

Cheers,
Pia

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