Re: [Server-devel] XS - XO archiving and backup (was Re: [OLPC India] Issues on the ground )

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:16 AM, David Van Assche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One package to look at is Mahara, also from your neck of the woods
> (Martin) which you've probably heard of. I installed it along a Moodle
> install and took advantage of xmlrpc to do sharing of data and single
> sign on. Mahara is an e-portfolio system, that when set up looks a
> little like a personalised facebook, with resume, file areas, and many
> other user specific items. backups would fit in there perfectly.

Yes - thought about that too :-)

It's a bit further in the complexity-effort/payoff curve right now.
Mahara may well end up finding a place on the XS. Likelyhood and
timing depend on how people use the custom Moodle that ships as part
of XS.

cheers,


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Re: [Server-devel] XS - XO archiving and backup (was Re: [OLPC India] Issues on the ground )

2008-11-10 Thread David Van Assche
One package to look at is Mahara, also from your neck of the woods
(Martin) which you've probably heard of. I installed it along a Moodle
install and took advantage of xmlrpc to do sharing of data and single
sign on. Mahara is an e-portfolio system, that when set up looks a
little like a personalised facebook, with resume, file areas, and many
other user specific items. backups would fit in there perfectly.

kind regards,
David Van Assche

On 11/10/08, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Bill Bogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > I've personally used the version in XS 0.4 to verify that individual
>  > journal entries can be restored.
>
>
> Good to hear that - great and thanks!
>
>
>  >  However, you probably don't want to
>  > use this version in an actual deployment without changes.  There is
>  > absolutely no security on access to backups.  The web server lets
>  > anyone who can get an http connection to the schoolserver to download
>  > files from any users backup.  My understanding is that there are plans
>  > to
>  > move access into Moodle and take advantage of access control there.
>
>
> 100% correct. The backups right now offer no privacy - I had hoped to
>  address that for 0.5 - integrating the restore UI into Moodle - but it
>  proved to be a bit of a stretch. It is definitely a 0.6 goal.
>
>  From 0.5 to 0.6 the upgrade will be easy - probably just a handful of
>  updated RPMs, so yum can do its magic.
>
>  cheers,
>
>
>
>  m
>
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Re: [Server-devel] XS - XO archiving and backup (was Re: [OLPC India] Issues on the ground )

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Bill Bogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've personally used the version in XS 0.4 to verify that individual
> journal entries can be restored.

Good to hear that - great and thanks!

>  However, you probably don't want to
> use this version in an actual deployment without changes.  There is
> absolutely no security on access to backups.  The web server lets
> anyone who can get an http connection to the schoolserver to download
> files from any users backup.  My understanding is that there are plans
> to
> move access into Moodle and take advantage of access control there.

100% correct. The backups right now offer no privacy - I had hoped to
address that for 0.5 - integrating the restore UI into Moodle - but it
proved to be a bit of a stretch. It is definitely a 0.6 goal.

>From 0.5 to 0.6 the upgrade will be easy - probably just a handful of
updated RPMs, so yum can do its magic.

cheers,



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Re: [Server-devel] XS - XO archiving and backup (was Re: [OLPC India] Issues on the ground )

2008-11-10 Thread Bill Bogstad
2008/11/10 Reuben K. Caron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> XS 0.4 does include a backup and restore functionality. The restore is
> through a web interface that can be accessed at
> http://schoolserver/ds-restore. The one caveat to this functionality is that
> it requires the XO to be running 8.2 (in order for the backup to run).

I've personally used the version in XS 0.4 to verify that individual
journal entries can be restored.  However, you probably don't want to
use this version in an actual deployment without changes.  There is
absolutely no security on access to backups.  The web server lets
anyone who can get an http connection to the schoolserver to download
files from any users backup.  My understanding is that there are plans
to
move access into Moodle and take advantage of access control there.  I
haven't yet installed a 0.5 pre-release so I don't know
what the status will be for that release.

Bill Bogstad
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[Server-devel] XS - XO archiving and backup (was Re: [OLPC India] Issues on the ground )

2008-11-09 Thread Bryan Berry
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 11:44 +0530, JV Avadhanulu wrote:
> Dear Bryan,
> I have a question.
> Are children able to transfer files to the XS Server over Wi-Fi in your 
> deployments?

Our deployments are still using XS-163, which does not have the
xs-backup method. We hope to migrate to a newer version of the XS later
this month.

To my knowledge, the XO's can back up to the XS but there still is no
way for children to browse their backups or restore from them. My
knowledge may be out of date though. Martin Langhoff knows much better
than I.

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