Re: [Server-devel] XS on ASUS Netbook - Display Problem

2010-12-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Andra DuPont  wrote:
> Martin,
> Success...

Glad to hear!

> You may want to consider adding this to future server releases, assuming that 
> it doesn't
> cause problems on other platforms.

When I get some time to work on the next release, we should revisit
this with you.

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Re: [Server-devel] XS on ASUS Netbook - Display Problem

2010-12-02 Thread Andra DuPont
Martin,
Success...

I edited the /boot/grub/menu.lst file so that the kernel line is now

 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 ro 
root=UUID=58ef33d6-bd02-4a2c-830b-2515ff9368ed rhgb quiet acpi_osi=Linux 
acpi_backlight=vendor

On the first reboot, the boot process paused for about 30 seconds at
the "starting udev" stage. The screen went dim, but when the server
was fully booted, the fn+F6 key worked to raise the brightness!

On second reboot, the boot process did not pause, and the screen remained 
bright. Issue solved.

You may want to consider adding this to future server releases, assuming that 
it doesn't
cause problems on other platforms.

Andy


On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Andra DuPont wrote:

> Martin,
> Looking at some Fedora sites, I see where there are many post of problems 
> with the Eee PC
> and backlighting. Based on what I read, I decided to update the BIOS, and 
> although it didn't fix the
> problem completely, the screen now has about 10% brightness, so I can 
> actually read it if the room
> is not too bright.
> 
> some people have reported a fix in fedora that uses grub kernel options:
> 
>   acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor
> 
> I will try putting these in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.
> 
> Is this the right place? Any suggestions?
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Andra DuPont wrote:
> 
>> Martin,
>> Thanks for the suggestion. I will run lsmod.
>> 
>> After sleeping on it, I think the conflicting driver must
>> be related to the backlighting on the display, not the graphics processor. 
>> The Acer and Asus have the same 
>> graphics hardware, but the displays are different.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> On Dec 1, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Andra DuPont  wrote:
 So apparently one of the drivers that is installed is conflicting with the 
 screen brightness.
>>> 
>>> Your analysis seems 100% correct.
>>> 
>>> I'd suggest -
>>> 
>>> - run lsmod, it'll tell you what modules are being loaded - one of
>>> them will be controlling your video card -- for example an i915 card
>>> loads intel_agp, drm and i915
>>> 
>>> - name those modules in /etc/modules/blacklist.conf so they don't get loaded
>>> 
>>> but I agree with you, it's very strange that you need to go through this 
>>> dance.
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> m
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Re: [Server-devel] XS on ASUS Netbook - Display Problem

2010-12-02 Thread Andra DuPont
Martin,
Looking at some Fedora sites, I see where there are many post of problems with 
the Eee PC
and backlighting. Based on what I read, I decided to update the BIOS, and 
although it didn't fix the
problem completely, the screen now has about 10% brightness, so I can actually 
read it if the room
is not too bright.

some people have reported a fix in fedora that uses grub kernel options:

acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor

I will try putting these in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.

Is this the right place? Any suggestions?

Andy


On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Andra DuPont wrote:

> Martin,
> Thanks for the suggestion. I will run lsmod.
> 
> After sleeping on it, I think the conflicting driver must
> be related to the backlighting on the display, not the graphics processor. 
> The Acer and Asus have the same 
> graphics hardware, but the displays are different.
> 
> Andy
> 
> On Dec 1, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Andra DuPont  wrote:
>>> So apparently one of the drivers that is installed is conflicting with the 
>>> screen brightness.
>> 
>> Your analysis seems 100% correct.
>> 
>> I'd suggest -
>> 
>> - run lsmod, it'll tell you what modules are being loaded - one of
>> them will be controlling your video card -- for example an i915 card
>> loads intel_agp, drm and i915
>> 
>> - name those modules in /etc/modules/blacklist.conf so they don't get loaded
>> 
>> but I agree with you, it's very strange that you need to go through this 
>> dance.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> m
>> -- 
>> martin.langh...@gmail.com
>> mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect
>> - ask interesting questions
>> - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
>> - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff
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Re: [Server-devel] XS on ASUS Netbook - Display Problem

2010-12-02 Thread Andra DuPont
Martin,
Thanks for the suggestion. I will run lsmod.

After sleeping on it, I think the conflicting driver must
be related to the backlighting on the display, not the graphics processor. The 
Acer and Asus have the same 
graphics hardware, but the displays are different.

Andy

On Dec 1, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Andra DuPont  wrote:
>> So apparently one of the drivers that is installed is conflicting with the 
>> screen brightness.
> 
> Your analysis seems 100% correct.
> 
> I'd suggest -
> 
> - run lsmod, it'll tell you what modules are being loaded - one of
> them will be controlling your video card -- for example an i915 card
> loads intel_agp, drm and i915
> 
> - name those modules in /etc/modules/blacklist.conf so they don't get loaded
> 
> but I agree with you, it's very strange that you need to go through this 
> dance.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> 
> m
> -- 
>  martin.langh...@gmail.com
>  mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect
>  - ask interesting questions
>  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
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Re: [Server-devel] XS on ASUS Netbook - Display Problem

2010-12-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Andra DuPont  wrote:
> So apparently one of the drivers that is installed is conflicting with the 
> screen brightness.

Your analysis seems 100% correct.

I'd suggest -

 - run lsmod, it'll tell you what modules are being loaded - one of
them will be controlling your video card -- for example an i915 card
loads intel_agp, drm and i915

 - name those modules in /etc/modules/blacklist.conf so they don't get loaded

but I agree with you, it's very strange that you need to go through this dance.

cheers,


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Re: [Server-devel] XS on ASUS Netbook - Display Problem

2010-12-01 Thread Andra DuPont
Martin,
Removing the first line from the 80-drivers.rules keeps the screen from going 
dark, but as best I can tell, it also keeps most of the drivers from being 
installed. For instance, the ethernet ports are not found when the line is 
omitted. The line is:

DRIVER!="?*", ENV{MODALIAS}=="?*", RUN{ignore_error}+="/sbin/modprobe 
$env{MODALIAS}"
SUBSYSTEM=="pnp", DRIVER!="?*", ENV{MODALIAS}!="?*", \

As best as I can tell, the command uses modprobe to install the appropriate 
drivers from the modules.alias list in /lib/modules/... directory.

So apparently one of the drivers that is installed is conflicting with the 
screen brightness.

Do you have any idea where to go from here? I am really surprised because the 
Acer Aspire One this I'm using in Kenya now did not have this problem, and it 
has the same Intel GMA 3150 graphics processor as this ASUS Eee PC.

Andy


On Dec 1, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Andra DuPont wrote:

> Martin,
> 
> If I remove just the 80-drivers.rules file from /etc/udev/rules.d
> then the screen does not dim. I actually started in that file
> earlier this morning and tried removing some lines in the graphics
> area but that did not solve the problem.
> 
> I will check into the driver.rules file further this evening and try to
> determine the specific rule that is causing the problem.
> 
> Andy
> On Dec 1, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> 
>> To capture dmesg output, do
>> 
>>  dmesg > dmesg.log
>> 
>> and now you'll have a dmesg.log file.
>> 
>> Not sure if your rule files are actually to blame, but it's a good
>> starting point.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> m
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Andra DuPont  wrote:
>>> Martin,
>>> Attached is the /var/log/messages file
>>> 
>>> Output from dmesg seemed to show things looking normal but I couldn't see 
>>> the initial output as it scrolled off my screen. What command can I use to 
>>> have it show me a page at a time?
>>> 
>>> I plan on removing the rule files methodically to isolate the conflicting 
>>> rule. Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 1, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>>> 
 On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Andra DuPont  
 wrote:
> I have installed XS 0.6 on an ASUS 1005PEB Eee PC. The server is running 
> fine except that the screen went dark at server start-up right after the 
> "starting udev" was displayed on the screen. My screen stays dark and can 
> only be reset by restoring the default bios settings. Then it gets set 
> dark again at server startup at the "starting udev" process.
> 
> Any idea what rule or other change I could make to keep the screen from 
> going dark?
 
 Strange! Can you post /var/log/messages and the output from dmesg from
 that server, right after booting?
 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Server-devel] XS on ASUS Netbook - Display Problem

2010-12-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Andra DuPont  wrote:
> I have installed XS 0.6 on an ASUS 1005PEB Eee PC. The server is running fine 
> except that the screen went dark at server start-up right after the "starting 
> udev" was displayed on the screen. My screen stays dark and can only be reset 
> by restoring the default bios settings. Then it gets set dark again at server 
> startup at the "starting udev" process.
>
> Any idea what rule or other change I could make to keep the screen from going 
> dark?

Strange! Can you post /var/log/messages and the output from dmesg from
that server, right after booting?

cheers,


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[Server-devel] XS on ASUS Netbook - Display Problem

2010-12-01 Thread Andra DuPont
I have installed XS 0.6 on an ASUS 1005PEB Eee PC. The server is running fine 
except that the screen went dark at server start-up right after the "starting 
udev" was displayed on the screen. My screen stays dark and can only be reset 
by restoring the default bios settings. Then it gets set dark again at server 
startup at the "starting udev" process.

Any idea what rule or other change I could make to keep the screen from going 
dark?

Andy
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