Re: [Server-devel] XS procurement recommendations (new hardware - Nosy Komba, Madagascar)

2012-04-26 Thread rihowa...@gmail.com 

On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:11 PM, John Watlington wrote:

> 
> Just a quick reminder that we have XO-1.75 production units available for
> people who want to work on XS on ARM.   Just fill out the form at:
> 
>   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program/Project_proposal_form
> 
> and list XS on ARM XO as the project.   If you have any problems getting
> one this way, drop me a note.
I had applied for one for just this purpose back in mid February and only got 
an automated RT email and nothing else. 
I will send you a separate email with the RT id.

> 
> Cheers,
> wad
> 
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:52 PM, George Hunt wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kevin,
>> 
>> As far as I can tell, the system programmers in Boston are very occupied 
>> with getting 1.75 and 3.0 out the door.  I think there's interest in seeing 
>> an ARM XS, but not immediately, with the resources available to them.
>> 
>> There's a volunteer in San Francisco, who's email is rihoward, who has 
>> played with a number of ARM boxes. He's already given me some really useful 
>> advice.
>> 
>> I don't have the background to be very productive in getting the XS onto 
>> ARM, but to me it seems strategic.
>> 
>> I am spending a few hours every day, trying to learn about cross compiling 
>> fc17 onto the ARM arch. 
>> 
>> But I'm no expert.  Maybe we could join forces.  As I go along, one of my 
>> goals it to document the steps at schoolserver.wordpress.com.
>> 
>> George
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Kévin Raymond  
>> wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Mitchell Seaton  
>> wrote:
>>> I might sum up here from recent additions (replies) on this mailing list
>>> regarding current low-power server options (x86/32bit) for XS:
>>> 
>>> 1) FitPC2i - Dual Ethernet, fanless, poss heat-issue (heat sink),
>>> PhoenixBIOS (no Wake-on-LAN), 12W draw (poss ~5W idle)
>>> http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/fit-pc2i-specifications/
>>> 
>>> 2) SolidLogic - (VIA C7, 25W draw) current sys in use not available for
>>> purchase, EU options in links below
>>> http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/intel-atom/
>>> http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/fanless/
>>> deployment sites: Jamaica
>>> 
>>> 3) MSi WindBox - '10 Atom D510, 4GB DDR2 - ~35W, drawback single Ethernet
>>> NIC (USB WiFi adapter)
>>> http://fr.msi.com/models/Wind%20Box%20DC500
>>> deployment sites: Nepal, Haiti, Philippines
>>> 
>>> 4) EPC-AT270 - Dual Ethernet (Wake on LAN), fanless, drawback '08 model Atom
>>> N270 (2GB DDR2) -
>>> http://www.avalue.com.tw/products/EPC-AT270.cfm
>>> deployment sites: PNG, Oceania?
>>> 
>>> These solutions generally haven't changed in the last two years, in Q2, 2012
>>> now these are the current stable options for low-power x86?
>>> 
>>> If that's the reality, I assume we can make a decision around these options,
>>> taking site specific considerations into account, and plan for possible
>>> involvement (replacement) down the line (1-2+ years) with any future server
>>> development for ARM/plug/etc and what suitable working model
>>> is devised around it.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Mitch
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> 
>> I am new in this list but involved in OLPC-France.
>> Could someone point me to the XS ARM port status?
>> I don't know yet what software the XS is composed of, but since I have
>> the Alex's dreamplug here in Paris I could try to move things forward.
>> (Won't probably make it before May but costs nothing to read about it).
>> 
>> I also have a FitPC(2?), but the power supply is lost somewhere in my 
>> bedroom…
>> Yeah, it is way too hot IMHO
>> 
>> --
>> Kévin Raymond
>> (shaiton)
>> GPG-Key: A5BCB3A2
>> 
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Re: [Server-devel] XS procurement recommendations (new hardware - Nosy Komba, Madagascar)

2012-04-18 Thread John Watlington 

Just a quick reminder that we have XO-1.75 production units available for
people who want to work on XS on ARM.   Just fill out the form at:

   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program/Project_proposal_form

and list XS on ARM XO as the project.   If you have any problems getting
one this way, drop me a note.

Cheers,
wad

On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:52 PM, George Hunt wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
> 
> As far as I can tell, the system programmers in Boston are very occupied with 
> getting 1.75 and 3.0 out the door.  I think there's interest in seeing an ARM 
> XS, but not immediately, with the resources available to them.
> 
> There's a volunteer in San Francisco, who's email is rihoward, who has played 
> with a number of ARM boxes. He's already given me some really useful advice.
> 
> I don't have the background to be very productive in getting the XS onto ARM, 
> but to me it seems strategic.
> 
> I am spending a few hours every day, trying to learn about cross compiling 
> fc17 onto the ARM arch. 
> 
> But I'm no expert.  Maybe we could join forces.  As I go along, one of my 
> goals it to document the steps at schoolserver.wordpress.com.
> 
> George
> 
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Kévin Raymond  
> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Mitchell Seaton  
> wrote:
> > I might sum up here from recent additions (replies) on this mailing list
> > regarding current low-power server options (x86/32bit) for XS:
> >
> > 1) FitPC2i - Dual Ethernet, fanless, poss heat-issue (heat sink),
> >  PhoenixBIOS (no Wake-on-LAN), 12W draw (poss ~5W idle)
> > http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/fit-pc2i-specifications/
> >
> > 2) SolidLogic - (VIA C7, 25W draw) current sys in use not available for
> > purchase, EU options in links below
> > http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/intel-atom/
> > http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/fanless/
> > deployment sites: Jamaica
> >
> > 3) MSi WindBox - '10 Atom D510, 4GB DDR2 - ~35W, drawback single Ethernet
> > NIC (USB WiFi adapter)
> > http://fr.msi.com/models/Wind%20Box%20DC500
> > deployment sites: Nepal, Haiti, Philippines
> >
> > 4) EPC-AT270 - Dual Ethernet (Wake on LAN), fanless, drawback '08 model Atom
> > N270 (2GB DDR2) -
> > http://www.avalue.com.tw/products/EPC-AT270.cfm
> > deployment sites: PNG, Oceania?
> >
> > These solutions generally haven't changed in the last two years, in Q2, 2012
> > now these are the current stable options for low-power x86?
> >
> > If that's the reality, I assume we can make a decision around these options,
> > taking site specific considerations into account, and plan for possible
> > involvement (replacement) down the line (1-2+ years) with any future server
> > development for ARM/plug/etc and what suitable working model
> > is devised around it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mitch
> >
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I am new in this list but involved in OLPC-France.
> Could someone point me to the XS ARM port status?
> I don't know yet what software the XS is composed of, but since I have
> the Alex's dreamplug here in Paris I could try to move things forward.
> (Won't probably make it before May but costs nothing to read about it).
> 
> I also have a FitPC(2?), but the power supply is lost somewhere in my bedroom…
> Yeah, it is way too hot IMHO
> 
> --
> Kévin Raymond
> (shaiton)
> GPG-Key: A5BCB3A2
> 
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Re: [Server-devel] XS procurement recommendations (new hardware - Nosy Komba, Madagascar)

2012-04-17 Thread George Hunt 
Hi Kevin,

As far as I can tell, the system programmers in Boston are very occupied
with getting 1.75 and 3.0 out the door.  I think there's interest in seeing
an ARM XS, but not immediately, with the resources available to them.

There's a volunteer in San Francisco, who's email is rihoward, who has
played with a number of ARM boxes. He's already given me some really useful
advice.

I don't have the background to be very productive in getting the XS onto
ARM, but to me it seems strategic.

I am spending a few hours every day, trying to learn about cross compiling
fc17 onto the ARM arch.

But I'm no expert.  Maybe we could join forces.  As I go along, one of my
goals it to document the steps at schoolserver.wordpress.com.

George

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Kévin Raymond
wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Mitchell Seaton 
> wrote:
> > I might sum up here from recent additions (replies) on this mailing list
> > regarding current low-power server options (x86/32bit) for XS:
> >
> > 1) FitPC2i - Dual Ethernet, fanless, poss heat-issue (heat sink),
> >  PhoenixBIOS (no Wake-on-LAN), 12W draw (poss ~5W idle)
> > http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/fit-pc2i-specifications/
> >
> > 2) SolidLogic - (VIA C7, 25W draw) current sys in use not available for
> > purchase, EU options in links below
> > http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/intel-atom/
> > http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/fanless/
> > deployment sites: Jamaica
> >
> > 3) MSi WindBox - '10 Atom D510, 4GB DDR2 - ~35W, drawback single Ethernet
> > NIC (USB WiFi adapter)
> > http://fr.msi.com/models/Wind%20Box%20DC500
> > deployment sites: Nepal, Haiti, Philippines
> >
> > 4) EPC-AT270 - Dual Ethernet (Wake on LAN), fanless, drawback '08 model
> Atom
> > N270 (2GB DDR2) -
> > http://www.avalue.com.tw/products/EPC-AT270.cfm
> > deployment sites: PNG, Oceania?
> >
> > These solutions generally haven't changed in the last two years, in Q2,
> 2012
> > now these are the current stable options for low-power x86?
> >
> > If that's the reality, I assume we can make a decision around these
> options,
> > taking site specific considerations into account, and plan for possible
> > involvement (replacement) down the line (1-2+ years) with any future
> server
> > development for ARM/plug/etc and what suitable working model
> > is devised around it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mitch
> >
>
> Hi there,
>
> I am new in this list but involved in OLPC-France.
> Could someone point me to the XS ARM port status?
> I don't know yet what software the XS is composed of, but since I have
> the Alex's dreamplug here in Paris I could try to move things forward.
> (Won't probably make it before May but costs nothing to read about it).
>
> I also have a FitPC(2?), but the power supply is lost somewhere in my
> bedroom…
> Yeah, it is way too hot IMHO
>
> --
> Kévin Raymond
> (shaiton)
> GPG-Key: A5BCB3A2
>
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Re: [Server-devel] XS procurement recommendations (new hardware - Nosy Komba, Madagascar)

2012-04-17 Thread Tom Mitchell 
Good list!.

Of interest there is a FitPC3.
http://www.fit-pc.com/web/introduction-to-fit-pc3/
It has a low power budget and rich I/O  resources.  Perhaps if someone would
contact them and invite them to the party they could close or help others close
the gaps. It has promise.

I especially like the input power specifications
of the FitPC for the OLPC context.

The panda board (ARM) is interesting.  It
lacks a disk port (SATA) although USB
disks work.   The power requirements are
nice and low but require external regulation
(more than the FitPC if I read the specs. correctly.
It lacks a case... some assembly required.
While OK for me I doubt it will fly based on
the email traffic I have seen.






On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Mitchell Seaton  wrote:
> I might sum up here from recent additions (replies) on this mailing list
> regarding current low-power server options (x86/32bit) for XS:
>
> 1) FitPC2i - Dual Ethernet, fanless, poss heat-issue (heat sink),
>  PhoenixBIOS (no Wake-on-LAN), 12W draw (poss ~5W idle)
> http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/fit-pc2i-specifications/
>
> 2) SolidLogic - (VIA C7, 25W draw) current sys in use not available for
> purchase, EU options in links below
> http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/intel-atom/
> http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/fanless/
> deployment sites: Jamaica
>
> 3) MSi WindBox - '10 Atom D510, 4GB DDR2 - ~35W, drawback single Ethernet
> NIC (USB WiFi adapter)
> http://fr.msi.com/models/Wind%20Box%20DC500
> deployment sites: Nepal, Haiti, Philippines
>
> 4) EPC-AT270 - Dual Ethernet (Wake on LAN), fanless, drawback '08 model Atom
> N270 (2GB DDR2) -
> http://www.avalue.com.tw/products/EPC-AT270.cfm
> deployment sites: PNG, Oceania?
>
> These solutions generally haven't changed in the last two years, in Q2, 2012
> now these are the current stable options for low-power x86?
>
> If that's the reality, I assume we can make a decision around these options,
> taking site specific considerations into account, and plan for possible
> involvement (replacement) down the line (1-2+ years) with any future server
> development for ARM/plug/etc and what suitable working model
> is devised around it.
>
> Regards,
> Mitch
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 11:07 PM, George Hunt  wrote:
>>
>> I like the Fitpc2i, which has two ethernet ports.  I recently purchased
>> one and would be happy to do whatever testing makes sense. (haven't yet
>> purchased the sata drive though). I can atest to the 5 watts, idle.  The
>> blurb that came with it says it's capable of 2 watts standby, but we'd need
>> to see if it can do "wake on lan".
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Sameer Verma  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Mitchell Seaton 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Dear all XS Server devel's,
>>> >
>>> > The OLPC France team is looking to provide a new XS server machine for
>>> > their
>>> > deployment in Nosy Komba. The current XS is not functional due to a
>>> > current
>>> > failed disk (cause to be discovered). Myself, and Adam Holt are
>>> > planning
>>> > work with Xavier (OLPC France), to help support the installation and
>>> > final
>>> > configuration of this new machine during June this year. We thought
>>> > it's
>>> > important to consult the community here ahead of this purchase
>>> > decision.
>>> >
>>> > Firstly, we'd like to seek some clear hardware suggestion(s) for a
>>> > potential
>>> > new XS. Solar/batteries are current powering method at the deployment
>>> > site. XO volume to be currently supported is 160, and should allow room
>>> > for
>>> > additional deployments. I believe, the investment should be positioned
>>> > for
>>> > min. 5yrs lifespan, and to cope in local heat, humidity, salt, dust,
>>> > conditions.
>>> >
>>> > We're aware of some hardware that has been working in the field - I've
>>> > particular noted MSi (WindBox) machine has been working successfully in
>>> > Nepal, Haiti and Philippines (George's donation). This is also a
>>> > follow-up,
>>> > in some ways, on George's previous thread although more for deployment
>>> > than
>>> > testing/dev. We're not looking at any XO-1.5/XO-1.75 for form-factor,
>>> > or ARM
>>> > as a platform (know this will come and be more stable in future
>>> > releases to
>>> > come). Low-power is a priority, this will help conserve more power
>>> > supply
>>> > for XO charging. I assume we are still looking at 32-bit x86 arch and
>>> > potentially preferring Atom processors (unless otherwise advised). Any
>>> > current models in the marketplace for recommendation?
>>> >
>>> > Purchase of requirement machine looks to be possible from France/EU for
>>> > deliver to Madagascar by the deployment/volunteer team (end of May).
>>> > It's crucial to identify the hardware choice relatively soon (during
>>> > next
>>> > month period). The machine will likely be pre-configured by Xavier
>>> > prior to
>>> > deliver.
>>> >
>>> > Look forward to your comments here.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Mitchell Seaton
>>> > eKindl

Re: [Server-devel] XS procurement recommendations (new hardware - Nosy Komba, Madagascar)

2012-04-17 Thread Kévin Raymond 
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Mitchell Seaton  wrote:
> I might sum up here from recent additions (replies) on this mailing list
> regarding current low-power server options (x86/32bit) for XS:
>
> 1) FitPC2i - Dual Ethernet, fanless, poss heat-issue (heat sink),
>  PhoenixBIOS (no Wake-on-LAN), 12W draw (poss ~5W idle)
> http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/fit-pc2i-specifications/
>
> 2) SolidLogic - (VIA C7, 25W draw) current sys in use not available for
> purchase, EU options in links below
> http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/intel-atom/
> http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/fanless/
> deployment sites: Jamaica
>
> 3) MSi WindBox - '10 Atom D510, 4GB DDR2 - ~35W, drawback single Ethernet
> NIC (USB WiFi adapter)
> http://fr.msi.com/models/Wind%20Box%20DC500
> deployment sites: Nepal, Haiti, Philippines
>
> 4) EPC-AT270 - Dual Ethernet (Wake on LAN), fanless, drawback '08 model Atom
> N270 (2GB DDR2) -
> http://www.avalue.com.tw/products/EPC-AT270.cfm
> deployment sites: PNG, Oceania?
>
> These solutions generally haven't changed in the last two years, in Q2, 2012
> now these are the current stable options for low-power x86?
>
> If that's the reality, I assume we can make a decision around these options,
> taking site specific considerations into account, and plan for possible
> involvement (replacement) down the line (1-2+ years) with any future server
> development for ARM/plug/etc and what suitable working model
> is devised around it.
>
> Regards,
> Mitch
>

Hi there,

I am new in this list but involved in OLPC-France.
Could someone point me to the XS ARM port status?
I don't know yet what software the XS is composed of, but since I have
the Alex's dreamplug here in Paris I could try to move things forward.
(Won't probably make it before May but costs nothing to read about it).

I also have a FitPC(2?), but the power supply is lost somewhere in my bedroom…
Yeah, it is way too hot IMHO

-- 
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(shaiton)
GPG-Key: A5BCB3A2
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Re: [Server-devel] XS procurement recommendations (new hardware - Nosy Komba, Madagascar)

2012-04-17 Thread Mitchell Seaton 
I might sum up here from recent additions (replies) on this mailing list
regarding current low-power server options (x86/32bit) for XS:

1) FitPC2i - Dual Ethernet, fanless, poss heat-issue (heat sink),
 PhoenixBIOS (no Wake-on-LAN), 12W draw (poss ~5W idle)
http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/fit-pc2i-specifications/

2) SolidLogic - (VIA C7, 25W draw) current sys in use not available for
purchase, EU options in links below
http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/intel-atom/
http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/fanless/
deployment sites: Jamaica

3) MSi WindBox - '10 Atom D510, 4GB DDR2 - ~35W, drawback single Ethernet
NIC (USB WiFi adapter)
http://fr.msi.com/models/Wind%20Box%20DC500
deployment sites: Nepal, Haiti, Philippines

4) EPC-AT270 - Dual Ethernet (Wake on LAN), fanless, drawback '08 model
Atom N270 (2GB DDR2) -
http://www.avalue.com.tw/products/EPC-AT270.cfm
deployment sites: PNG, Oceania?

These solutions generally haven't changed in the last two years, in Q2,
2012 now these are the current stable options for low-power x86?

If that's the reality, I assume we can make a decision around these
options, taking site specific considerations into account, and plan for
possible involvement (replacement) down the line (1-2+ years) with any
future server development for ARM/plug/etc and what suitable working model
is devised around it.

Regards,
Mitch

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 11:07 PM, George Hunt  wrote:

> I like the Fitpc2i, which has two ethernet ports.  I recently purchased
> one and would be happy to do whatever testing makes sense. (haven't yet
> purchased the sata drive though). I can atest to the 5 watts, idle.  The
> blurb that came with it says it's capable of 2 watts standby, but we'd need
> to see if it can do "wake on lan".
>
> George
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Sameer Verma  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Mitchell Seaton 
>> wrote:
>> > Dear all XS Server devel's,
>> >
>> > The OLPC France team is looking to provide a new XS server machine for
>> their
>> > deployment in Nosy Komba. The current XS is not functional due to a
>> current
>> > failed disk (cause to be discovered). Myself, and Adam Holt are planning
>> > work with Xavier (OLPC France), to help support the installation and
>> final
>> > configuration of this new machine during June this year. We thought it's
>> > important to consult the community here ahead of this purchase decision.
>> >
>> > Firstly, we'd like to seek some clear hardware suggestion(s) for a
>> potential
>> > new XS. Solar/batteries are current powering method at the deployment
>> > site. XO volume to be currently supported is 160, and should allow room
>> for
>> > additional deployments. I believe, the investment should be positioned
>> for
>> > min. 5yrs lifespan, and to cope in local heat, humidity, salt, dust,
>> > conditions.
>> >
>> > We're aware of some hardware that has been working in the field - I've
>> > particular noted MSi (WindBox) machine has been working successfully in
>> > Nepal, Haiti and Philippines (George's donation). This is also a
>> follow-up,
>> > in some ways, on George's previous thread although more for deployment
>> than
>> > testing/dev. We're not looking at any XO-1.5/XO-1.75 for form-factor,
>> or ARM
>> > as a platform (know this will come and be more stable in future
>> releases to
>> > come). Low-power is a priority, this will help conserve more power
>> supply
>> > for XO charging. I assume we are still looking at 32-bit x86 arch and
>> > potentially preferring Atom processors (unless otherwise advised). Any
>> > current models in the marketplace for recommendation?
>> >
>> > Purchase of requirement machine looks to be possible from France/EU for
>> > deliver to Madagascar by the deployment/volunteer team (end of May).
>> > It's crucial to identify the hardware choice relatively soon (during
>> next
>> > month period). The machine will likely be pre-configured by Xavier
>> prior to
>> > deliver.
>> >
>> > Look forward to your comments here.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Mitchell Seaton
>> > eKindling Technology Support
>> > msea...@ekindling.org
>> > www.ekindling.org
>> >
>> >
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>>
>> We use a SolidLogic box (OLPCorps box) in Jamaica at both locations.
>> Its no longer sold (not sure why?) but uses a VIA C7 processor and is
>> fanless. Draws 25W at the AC end of the power brick (DC 19V). Here's a
>> list of what they offer.
>> http://www.logicsupply.com/categories/fanless_systems
>>
>> A FitPC2 should work as well. It pulls 15W at the AC end of the power
>> brick (DC 12V). The only concern I had with a FitPC2 was the heat.
>> They do sell an after market heat sink that helps. If you wall-mount
>> the box, you could fashion a chimney on the heatsink to create a
>> continuous draft of air (hot air rises and will create an air column
>> that pulls in co

Re: [Server-devel] XS procurement recommendations (new hardware - Nosy Komba, Madagascar)

2012-04-15 Thread George Hunt 
I like the Fitpc2i, which has two ethernet ports.  I recently purchased one
and would be happy to do whatever testing makes sense. (haven't yet
purchased the sata drive though). I can atest to the 5 watts, idle.  The
blurb that came with it says it's capable of 2 watts standby, but we'd need
to see if it can do "wake on lan".

George

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Sameer Verma  wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Mitchell Seaton 
> wrote:
> > Dear all XS Server devel's,
> >
> > The OLPC France team is looking to provide a new XS server machine for
> their
> > deployment in Nosy Komba. The current XS is not functional due to a
> current
> > failed disk (cause to be discovered). Myself, and Adam Holt are planning
> > work with Xavier (OLPC France), to help support the installation and
> final
> > configuration of this new machine during June this year. We thought it's
> > important to consult the community here ahead of this purchase decision.
> >
> > Firstly, we'd like to seek some clear hardware suggestion(s) for a
> potential
> > new XS. Solar/batteries are current powering method at the deployment
> > site. XO volume to be currently supported is 160, and should allow room
> for
> > additional deployments. I believe, the investment should be positioned
> for
> > min. 5yrs lifespan, and to cope in local heat, humidity, salt, dust,
> > conditions.
> >
> > We're aware of some hardware that has been working in the field - I've
> > particular noted MSi (WindBox) machine has been working successfully in
> > Nepal, Haiti and Philippines (George's donation). This is also a
> follow-up,
> > in some ways, on George's previous thread although more for deployment
> than
> > testing/dev. We're not looking at any XO-1.5/XO-1.75 for form-factor, or
> ARM
> > as a platform (know this will come and be more stable in future releases
> to
> > come). Low-power is a priority, this will help conserve more power supply
> > for XO charging. I assume we are still looking at 32-bit x86 arch and
> > potentially preferring Atom processors (unless otherwise advised). Any
> > current models in the marketplace for recommendation?
> >
> > Purchase of requirement machine looks to be possible from France/EU for
> > deliver to Madagascar by the deployment/volunteer team (end of May).
> > It's crucial to identify the hardware choice relatively soon (during next
> > month period). The machine will likely be pre-configured by Xavier prior
> to
> > deliver.
> >
> > Look forward to your comments here.
> >
> > --
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> We use a SolidLogic box (OLPCorps box) in Jamaica at both locations.
> Its no longer sold (not sure why?) but uses a VIA C7 processor and is
> fanless. Draws 25W at the AC end of the power brick (DC 19V). Here's a
> list of what they offer.
> http://www.logicsupply.com/categories/fanless_systems
>
> A FitPC2 should work as well. It pulls 15W at the AC end of the power
> brick (DC 12V). The only concern I had with a FitPC2 was the heat.
> They do sell an after market heat sink that helps. If you wall-mount
> the box, you could fashion a chimney on the heatsink to create a
> continuous draft of air (hot air rises and will create an air column
> that pulls in cool air from the outside) to pull the heat away from
> the sink.
>
> We tested a FitPC2 (See appendix
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/images/4/46/Testing_the_OLPC_School_Server_Benjamin_Tran_SFSU.pdf
> )
> and while the tests were aggressive (all 160 XOs will hit the server
> in 60 seconds!), the FitPC2 should be ok.
>
> http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/fit-pc2-models/
> http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/accessories/
>
> cheers,
> Sameer
> --
> Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
> Professor, Information Systems
> San Francisco State University
> http://verma.sfsu.edu/
> http://commons.sfsu.edu/
> http://olpcsf.org/
> http://olpcjamaica.org.jm/
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Re: [Server-devel] XS procurement recommendations (new hardware - Nosy Komba, Madagascar)

2012-04-15 Thread Sameer Verma 
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Mitchell Seaton  wrote:
> Dear all XS Server devel's,
>
> The OLPC France team is looking to provide a new XS server machine for their
> deployment in Nosy Komba. The current XS is not functional due to a current
> failed disk (cause to be discovered). Myself, and Adam Holt are planning
> work with Xavier (OLPC France), to help support the installation and final
> configuration of this new machine during June this year. We thought it's
> important to consult the community here ahead of this purchase decision.
>
> Firstly, we'd like to seek some clear hardware suggestion(s) for a potential
> new XS. Solar/batteries are current powering method at the deployment
> site. XO volume to be currently supported is 160, and should allow room for
> additional deployments. I believe, the investment should be positioned for
> min. 5yrs lifespan, and to cope in local heat, humidity, salt, dust,
> conditions.
>
> We're aware of some hardware that has been working in the field - I've
> particular noted MSi (WindBox) machine has been working successfully in
> Nepal, Haiti and Philippines (George's donation). This is also a follow-up,
> in some ways, on George's previous thread although more for deployment than
> testing/dev. We're not looking at any XO-1.5/XO-1.75 for form-factor, or ARM
> as a platform (know this will come and be more stable in future releases to
> come). Low-power is a priority, this will help conserve more power supply
> for XO charging. I assume we are still looking at 32-bit x86 arch and
> potentially preferring Atom processors (unless otherwise advised). Any
> current models in the marketplace for recommendation?
>
> Purchase of requirement machine looks to be possible from France/EU for
> deliver to Madagascar by the deployment/volunteer team (end of May).
> It's crucial to identify the hardware choice relatively soon (during next
> month period). The machine will likely be pre-configured by Xavier prior to
> deliver.
>
> Look forward to your comments here.
>
> --
> Mitchell Seaton
> eKindling Technology Support
> msea...@ekindling.org
> www.ekindling.org
>
>
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>

We use a SolidLogic box (OLPCorps box) in Jamaica at both locations.
Its no longer sold (not sure why?) but uses a VIA C7 processor and is
fanless. Draws 25W at the AC end of the power brick (DC 19V). Here's a
list of what they offer.
http://www.logicsupply.com/categories/fanless_systems

A FitPC2 should work as well. It pulls 15W at the AC end of the power
brick (DC 12V). The only concern I had with a FitPC2 was the heat.
They do sell an after market heat sink that helps. If you wall-mount
the box, you could fashion a chimney on the heatsink to create a
continuous draft of air (hot air rises and will create an air column
that pulls in cool air from the outside) to pull the heat away from
the sink.

We tested a FitPC2 (See appendix
http://wiki.laptop.org/images/4/46/Testing_the_OLPC_School_Server_Benjamin_Tran_SFSU.pdf)
and while the tests were aggressive (all 160 XOs will hit the server
in 60 seconds!), the FitPC2 should be ok.

http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/fit-pc2-models/
http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/accessories/

cheers,
Sameer
-- 
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Professor, Information Systems
San Francisco State University
http://verma.sfsu.edu/
http://commons.sfsu.edu/
http://olpcsf.org/
http://olpcjamaica.org.jm/
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Re: [Server-devel] XS procurement recommendations (new hardware - Nosy Komba, Madagascar)

2012-04-15 Thread Mitchell Seaton 
Correction on that OLPC France link: http://olpc-france.org/ my bad.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Mitchell Seaton wrote:

> Dear all XS Server devel's,
>
> The OLPC France  team is looking to provide a
> new XS server machine for their deployment in Nosy 
> Komba.
> The current XS is not functional due to a current failed disk (cause to be
> discovered). Myself, and Adam Holt are planning work with Xavier (OLPC
> France), to help support the installation and final configuration of this
> new machine during June this year. We thought it's important to consult the
> community here ahead of this purchase decision.
>
> Firstly, we'd like to seek some clear hardware suggestion(s) for a
> potential new XS. Solar/batteries are current powering method at the
> deployment site. XO volume to be currently supported is 160, and should
> allow room for additional deployments. I believe, the investment should be
> positioned for min. 5yrs lifespan, and to cope in local heat, humidity,
> salt, dust, conditions.
>
> We're aware of some hardware that has been working in the field - I've
> particular noted MSi (WindBox) machine has been working successfully in
> Nepal, Haiti and Philippines (George's donation). This is also a follow-up,
> in some ways, on George's previous thread although more for deployment than
> testing/dev. We're not looking at any XO-1.5/XO-1.75 for form-factor, or
> ARM as a platform (know this will come and be more stable in future
> releases to come). Low-power is a priority, this will help conserve more
> power supply for XO charging. I assume we are still looking at 32-bit x86
> arch and potentially preferring Atom processors (unless otherwise advised).
> Any current models in the marketplace for recommendation?
>
> Purchase of requirement machine looks to be possible from France/EU for
> deliver to Madagascar by the deployment/volunteer team (end of May).
> It's crucial to identify the hardware choice relatively soon (during next
> month period). The machine will likely be pre-configured by Xavier prior to
> deliver.
>
> Look forward to your comments here.
>
> --
> Mitchell Seaton
> eKindling Technology Support
> msea...@ekindling.org
> www.ekindling.org
>
>


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[Server-devel] XS procurement recommendations (new hardware - Nosy Komba, Madagascar)

2012-04-15 Thread Mitchell Seaton 
Dear all XS Server devel's,

The OLPC France  team is looking to provide a
new XS server machine for their deployment in Nosy
Komba.
The current XS is not functional due to a current failed disk (cause to be
discovered). Myself, and Adam Holt are planning work with Xavier (OLPC
France), to help support the installation and final configuration of this
new machine during June this year. We thought it's important to consult the
community here ahead of this purchase decision.

Firstly, we'd like to seek some clear hardware suggestion(s) for a
potential new XS. Solar/batteries are current powering method at the
deployment site. XO volume to be currently supported is 160, and should
allow room for additional deployments. I believe, the investment should be
positioned for min. 5yrs lifespan, and to cope in local heat, humidity,
salt, dust, conditions.

We're aware of some hardware that has been working in the field - I've
particular noted MSi (WindBox) machine has been working successfully in
Nepal, Haiti and Philippines (George's donation). This is also a follow-up,
in some ways, on George's previous thread although more for deployment than
testing/dev. We're not looking at any XO-1.5/XO-1.75 for form-factor, or
ARM as a platform (know this will come and be more stable in future
releases to come). Low-power is a priority, this will help conserve more
power supply for XO charging. I assume we are still looking at 32-bit x86
arch and potentially preferring Atom processors (unless otherwise advised).
Any current models in the marketplace for recommendation?

Purchase of requirement machine looks to be possible from France/EU for
deliver to Madagascar by the deployment/volunteer team (end of May).
It's crucial to identify the hardware choice relatively soon (during next
month period). The machine will likely be pre-configured by Xavier prior to
deliver.

Look forward to your comments here.

-- 
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