Re: [Server-devel] wifi setup

2010-08-18 Thread Tom Parker
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 13:48 +1000, James Cameron wrote:
 Different OLPC OS builds present access points with same essid in
 different ways.  There was a problem with multiple access point
 presentation fixed somewhere along the way in development, but I'd have
 to go looking for it.  Which build are you working with?
 
 (Tabitha mentioned 8.2.1 on Monday ... and I think that build is
 affected by the problem).

We updated to os300py and observed access points with the same essid
showed up in the neighborhood only once.

 You could also capture the output of command
 
   sudo iwlist eth0 scan  scan.txt
 
 and check the file carefully for anything strange in the essid that
 might make them unique.

Thanks, this let me find the problem easily. I had spelt Laumoli wrong
in two different ways for 3 unique spellings (well, one was a hard to
see prepended space character).


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Re: [Server-devel] wifi setup

2010-08-18 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 08:53:20PM +1200, Tom Parker wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 13:48 +1000, James Cameron wrote:
  Different OLPC OS builds present access points with same essid in
  different ways.  There was a problem with multiple access point
  presentation fixed somewhere along the way in development, but I'd have
  to go looking for it.  Which build are you working with?
  
  (Tabitha mentioned 8.2.1 on Monday ... and I think that build is
  affected by the problem).
 
 We updated to os300py and observed access points with the same essid
 showed up in the neighborhood only once.

Ah, okay.  Sorry, I don't track os300py.

  You could also capture the output of command
  
  sudo iwlist eth0 scan  scan.txt
  
  and check the file carefully for anything strange in the essid that
  might make them unique.
 
 Thanks, this let me find the problem easily. I had spelt Laumoli wrong
 in two different ways for 3 unique spellings (well, one was a hard to
 see prepended space character).

Aye, that will do it.  Glad to be of help.

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Re: [Server-devel] wifi setup

2010-08-04 Thread David Leeming
Tom

We use multiple APs in schools set up in simple AP mode, using DHCP (not
fixed IP), the same SSID exactly, and only one network icon appears in
neighbourhood view. Same capitalisation is important. But you never have to
choose which one it should connect to. At the current school we had to
accept some 120 sector APs as there was no omnis in stock. Walking about
with Terminal Activity running and pinging, you could clearly see where it
hopped onto a new AP.

Can't add much more from technical point of view. We've used Linksys W54
types, EnGenius various types, DLink cheapo and more expensive types, and
usually in the default state with minimal config - just SSID, simple access
mode and DHCP client. Everything on the eth1 network. 

David Leeming

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Subject: [Server-devel] wifi setup

Howdy from Samoa.

I'm doing wifi testing here and I am wondering if there is a way to make
the access points merge together, so only one shows up on in the
neighbourhood and the laptop connects to the closest one?

I'm using Ubiquiti PicoStations http://www.ubnt.com/picostation

If I set them all to the same essid, I see 3 access points with the same
name.

Am I missing something? I've been to conferences where the wifi just
works no matter which room you are in.

Thanks.

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Re: [Server-devel] wifi setup

2010-08-04 Thread Daniel Drake
On 3 August 2010 23:56, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
 Just now I've set up three access points with the same essid; a NetComm
 NB600W and two WRT54G running OpenWrt.

 XO-1.5 and XO-1 development build os304 for release 10.1.2 shows a
 single icon in the Neighbourhood View, and clicking on it chooses one of
 the access points.

 XO-1 stable build os802 for release 8.2.1 shows the same thing.

 iwlist eth0 scan shows three separate access points with different
 address but same essid.  They are on different channels.

This is indeed the way to achieve what was asked for. But be careful -
not too long ago, someone from Uruguay (on de...@lists.laptop.org)
investigated a setup like this and found that the XO's behaviour in
picking the best access point (and changing once the signal got to
weak) was quite sub-standard. definitely needs some testing before
deployment, and please share your results.

Daniel
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Re: [Server-devel] wifi setup

2010-08-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 On 3 August 2010 23:56, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
 Just now I've set up three access points with the same essid; a NetComm
 NB600W and two WRT54G running OpenWrt.

 XO-1.5 and XO-1 development build os304 for release 10.1.2 shows a
 single icon in the Neighbourhood View, and clicking on it chooses one of
 the access points.

 XO-1 stable build os802 for release 8.2.1 shows the same thing.

 iwlist eth0 scan shows three separate access points with different
 address but same essid.  They are on different channels.

 This is indeed the way to achieve what was asked for.

Correct.

 But be careful -
 not too long ago, someone from Uruguay (on de...@lists.laptop.org)
 investigated a setup like this and found that the XO's behaviour in
 picking the best access point (and changing once the signal got to
 weak) was quite sub-standard.

That is true -- with build 8.2.1 sometimes the XO switches from one
AP to another needlessly. This does not happen in newer builds.

We diagnosed the problem down to wpa_supplicant deciding to switch AP.
In the same investigation we saw that the libertas driver was not
resetting tx failure count periodically -- this may be influencing
wpa_supplicant.

cheers,


m
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 - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
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Re: [Server-devel] wifi setup

2010-08-04 Thread mauroxx mauroxx
You need configure your access points (3) *WDS*

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote:

 Howdy from Samoa.

 I'm doing wifi testing here and I am wondering if there is a way to make
 the access points merge together, so only one shows up on in the
 neighbourhood and the laptop connects to the closest one?

 I'm using Ubiquiti PicoStations http://www.ubnt.com/picostation

 If I set them all to the same essid, I see 3 access points with the same
 name.

 Am I missing something? I've been to conferences where the wifi just
 works no matter which room you are in.

 Thanks.

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[Server-devel] wifi setup

2010-08-03 Thread Tom Parker
Howdy from Samoa.

I'm doing wifi testing here and I am wondering if there is a way to make
the access points merge together, so only one shows up on in the
neighbourhood and the laptop connects to the closest one?

I'm using Ubiquiti PicoStations http://www.ubnt.com/picostation

If I set them all to the same essid, I see 3 access points with the same
name.

Am I missing something? I've been to conferences where the wifi just
works no matter which room you are in.

Thanks.

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Re: [Server-devel] wifi setup

2010-08-03 Thread James Cameron
Different OLPC OS builds present access points with same essid in
different ways.  There was a problem with multiple access point
presentation fixed somewhere along the way in development, but I'd have
to go looking for it.  Which build are you working with?

(Tabitha mentioned 8.2.1 on Monday ... and I think that build is
affected by the problem).

You could also capture the output of command

sudo iwlist eth0 scan  scan.txt

and check the file carefully for anything strange in the essid that
might make them unique.

-- 
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http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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Re: [Server-devel] wifi setup

2010-08-03 Thread John Watlington

I was under the impression that this required 802.11F
capable APs to work properly.
But I'm no expert.  Anyone better informed care to educate
me ?

Cheers,
wad

On Aug 3, 2010, at 11:48 PM, James Cameron wrote:

 Different OLPC OS builds present access points with same essid in
 different ways.  There was a problem with multiple access point
 presentation fixed somewhere along the way in development, but I'd have
 to go looking for it.  Which build are you working with?
 
 (Tabitha mentioned 8.2.1 on Monday ... and I think that build is
 affected by the problem).
 
 You could also capture the output of command
 
   sudo iwlist eth0 scan  scan.txt
 
 and check the file carefully for anything strange in the essid that
 might make them unique.
 
 -- 
 James Cameron
 http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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Re: [Server-devel] wifi setup

2010-08-03 Thread James Cameron
Just now I've set up three access points with the same essid; a NetComm
NB600W and two WRT54G running OpenWrt.

XO-1.5 and XO-1 development build os304 for release 10.1.2 shows a
single icon in the Neighbourhood View, and clicking on it chooses one of
the access points.

XO-1 stable build os802 for release 8.2.1 shows the same thing.

iwlist eth0 scan shows three separate access points with different
address but same essid.  They are on different channels.

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http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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