Re: [Server-devel] Collaboration XO-1 with XS

2012-04-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
When the problem happens, it'll be interesting to see the output of
olpc-netstatus and olpc-xos cmdline utilities on XOs that have trouble and
on those that don't.

There's additional debugging info you can get from ejabberd on the XS.

There's a page in the wiki (in the XS techniques page?) that lists all the
debugging/diagnostics steps for collaboration.

What James mentions is correct, too. A reconnection is what is probably
fixing it.

hth,

m
On Apr 28, 2012 5:14 AM, David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com
wrote:

 **

 Hi James,

 I have been fairly familiar some time with using the basic default
 installation of the XS. It is specifically the combination of XO-1 build
 883 / Sugar 0.94.1 with XS0-0.6 which has thrown up some issues - with
 collaboration.

 A typical situation when we observe this recently: a workshop with 20
 teachers, all who have freshly installed release 11.3.0 on their XO-1sand 
 registered on the workshop XS and restarted. All have been accessing
 the Moodle pages with no problems and the links to the public content in
 the /library folder. I will have been using the XS network wirelessly to
 an XO that is running Classroom Broadcast Activity, with no difficult
 whatsoever. So there is no need to ping the server to understand that the
 XOs are all properly connected and registered, although I take your point
 and would have done more diagnostics if i knew how to isolate the issue
 with the collaboration problem we experienced.

 We were able to replicate the issue on identically set-up servers. The
 issue is: not all the other connected XOs appear in the neighbourhood
 view, and when trying to demonstrate collaboration using the set up above,
 it was only rarely that the sharing icon appeared on other XOs
 neighbourhood view even though all else seemed to be working fine. I
 tried using the discard network history with a few XOs only once at the
 end of the workshop, and we then run out of time. I tried again with my
 own setup later, using two XOs only, and replicated the issue but the
 discard history did not work then. So that might not be useful
 information.

 Perhaps I should rephrase my question:

 Was it intended that collaboration should work with XO-1s running release
 11.3.0 using the XS-0.6 default installation?

 Secondary question, if this is not working, and I have made no
 customisation other than add some links using aliases presented as links
 on the Moodle home page, what can I do to trouble shoot?

 David Leeming

 -Original Message-
 From: qu...@us.netrek.org [mailto:qu...@us.netrek.orgqu...@us.netrek.org]
 On Behalf Of James Cameron
 Sent: Friday, 27 April 2012 7:39 a.m.
 To: David Leeming
 Cc: 'XS Devel'; 'OLPC Devel'
 Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Collaboration XO-1 with XS

 On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 06:38:00AM +1000, David Leeming wrote:

  [...] we work around it by for instance using ?discard network

  history? which seems to help.

 I was deeply involved in the discard network history feature at one

 point in development, and at the time the only thing it did was to

 remove access point names (ESSIDs) from the list of known access points.

 I've just checked the code and that is still only what it does.

 So I'm surprised it is having an effect.  But congratulations for

 finding it does have an effect.

 I know nothing about the network at the location.  Is there more than

 one access point name available?

 If so, at the time of the problem, the reason the button is having an

 effect may be because a disconnection has led to the laptop associating

 with another access point, and pressing the button would prevent that.

 If not, then the button is only serving to disconnect the laptop from

 the network.  You may find the same effect to occur by clicking on the

 access point in the network neighbourhood view.

 Lastly, whether activities are open at the time of the forced disconnect

 and reconnect may be interesting.

 Next time, please do some technical diagnosis at the time of the problem

 ... use Terminal activity to ping the server.  As I have recently seen

 examples of TP-Link with OpenWRT access points that silently block data

 flow, it reminds me that some diagnosis is worth doing.  In the cases I

 observed, data flow was restored by reconnecting.  That you currently

 reconnect to work around the problem may be a coincidence, or it might

 be this same kind of problem.

 --

 James Cameron

 http://quozl.linux.org.au/

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[Server-devel] Collaboration XO-1 with XS

2012-04-26 Thread David Leeming
I have noticed when using the combination XO-1 build 883 , Sugar 0.94.1 and
XS-0.6 that collaboration for registered XOs connected to the XS network is
unreliable. After doing some collaborating sometimes the populating of the
neighbourhood views becomes unreliable and shared activities are not
displayed on other XOs neighbourhood screens. Also, when hovering over some
XOs which are displayed on neighbourhood view, the name is not shown but
instead a long text stream. This has been attempting to disrupt teacher
training I am conducting but we work around it by for instance using
discard network history which seems to help.

 

I am copying to both lists as I am not sure where the problem lies. Any
advice appreciated and apologies if some of this has been covered in past
discussions, if so just a referral would be most appreciated.

 

David Leeming

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