Re: [Server-devel] Wikiserver on XS

2008-07-01 Thread Bryan Berry
good thing there are brighter bulbs involved in olpc than myself :)

cbj I will have to look at your code for wikislice and see how it
harvests the images from wikipedia. I was having the most trouble w/
that part. Perhaps wikislice can easily be reused for wiktionary

we like wiktionary because it is quite small and it has audio samples
that say the word. Nepali kids seem really like the latter feature.

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From: Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: server-devel@lists.laptop.org
Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Wikiserver on XS
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:06:51 -0400

Hi,

I tried setting up a Wiktionary server on a shared server that our
pilots have access to and it was a major pain in the ass. After 3
days I couldn't get it to work. I had a lot of trouble downloading
and importing the images, perhaps Chris Ball's wikislices gets this
right. I will have to look at the code and ask him.

Oh, you mean using the wikislice technology to build a snapshot of the
dictionary data from wiktionary, rather than the wikipedia data?  That's
an interesting idea.

The wikislices are alright but they don't allow for searching for
content which I think is an essential feature.

Yes, they do; when you run the Wikipedia activity, there's a search
toolbar that searches against the local index.  (You might be confusing
the Wikipedia activity with some hand-made Wikislice HTML content
bundles that SJ made quite a while ago.)

- Chris.

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Re: [Server-devel] Wikiserver on XS

2008-06-28 Thread David Van Assche
Moodle's integrated wiki is great, easy to set up and easy to use. I've used
this with teachers and students without anyone having problems understanding
how it works. Search functionality is also integrated from the start. The
only thing is it is of course integrated in the Moodle package itself, but
it is easy enough to add the wikis to the front page... that together with
offline moodle seems to be an ideal solution. I'm currently testing both the
offline moodfle plugin done by open university and intel, as well as the
South American Jolongo developed using AIR, and both solutions seem
promising for offline moodle. Both projects are still in BETA though,
although the parties involved would be only too happy to get involved with
something for OLPC... this provides an on and online wiki solution too
(imho)...

Kind Regards,
David Van Assche

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tried setting up a Wiktionary server on a shared server that our
 pilots have access to and it was a major pain in the ass. After 3 days I
 couldn't get it to work. I had a lot of trouble downloading and
 importing the images, perhaps Chris Ball's wikislices gets this right. I
 will have to look at the code and ask him.

 The wikislices are alright but they don't allow for searching for
 content which I think is an essential feature.


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 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:49:10 -0400
 From: Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Wikiserver on XS
 To: Philipp Kocher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Hi Phillip,

 On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Philipp Kocher
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is there a wikiserver installed on the XS?

 it's in the plan, but it's not there yet. The (drafty) plan is to have

  - a slightly customised mediawiki install for local (created in the
 school) content and collab activities
  - perhaps a 2nd mediawiki install to host editable wikislices OR
  - non-editable install of a wikislice

 For the wikislices, have a look at the great wiork that cjb has done
 for the Spanish wikislice that runs directly on the XO.

 If you install a vanilla mediawiki, chances are it will be reasonably
 easy to migrate later (for someone with a bit of linux admin skills)
 to what we deploy. Ah, note that we're working on PostgreSQL.

 cheers,


 m

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Re: [Server-devel] Wikiserver on XS

2008-06-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/6/28 David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Moodle's integrated wiki is great, easy to set up and easy to use.

Yes, and it's getting a major upgrade to a new codebase (known as nwiki).

WRT offline moodle, I did part of the architecture and very small part
of the programming of OUs offline moodle. From an OLPC perspective, my
plan is to look at that once the XS is in better shape, so I'll let
them run their course for now :-) (I'm in touch with their team,
anyway, and they know we're interested)

cheers,



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Re: [Server-devel] Wikiserver on XS

2008-06-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Phillip,

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Philipp Kocher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a wikiserver installed on the XS?

it's in the plan, but it's not there yet. The (drafty) plan is to have

 - a slightly customised mediawiki install for local (created in the
school) content and collab activities
 - perhaps a 2nd mediawiki install to host editable wikislices OR
 - non-editable install of a wikislice

For the wikislices, have a look at the great wiork that cjb has done
for the Spanish wikislice that runs directly on the XO.

If you install a vanilla mediawiki, chances are it will be reasonably
easy to migrate later (for someone with a bit of linux admin skills)
to what we deploy. Ah, note that we're working on PostgreSQL.

cheers,


m
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