Re: [Server-devel] pushing activities to XOs
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Maybe we can prepare a Feature for the next cycle. Also, we are shipping a old updater, not integrated with the changes done in sugar (sugar was changed to support different backends, as ASLO and OLPC, but our code does not implement the backend). Yes. I put my notes (unfinished) here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Automatic_activity_updates But not planning to continue on this topic at the present time. Daniel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] pushing activities to XOs
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 14:51 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Is there a way to push activities (new or upgrades) or activity bundles to XOs seamlessly via the XS? Been looking at the documentation on the wiki, but no luck as yet... http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/dbagnall/xs-activity-server.git/tree/README Think sugar-update-control supports looking for http://schoolserver/activities by default. Jerry Thanks. This will push activities to the XS and make these available at http://schoolserver/activities I was wondering if its possible to actually *push* the activity from the XS to the XO seamlessly, so if we wanted to add new activities to the XO, we could push it from the XS. By sugar-update-control do you mean the Software Update in the control Panel (Settings)? cheers, Sameer ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] pushing activities to XOs
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 14:51 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Is there a way to push activities (new or upgrades) or activity bundles to XOs seamlessly via the XS? Been looking at the documentation on the wiki, but no luck as yet... http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/dbagnall/xs-activity-server.git/tree/README Think sugar-update-control supports looking for http://schoolserver/activities by default. Jerry Thanks. This will push activities to the XS and make these available at http://schoolserver/activities I was wondering if its possible to actually *push* the activity from the XS to the XO seamlessly, so if we wanted to add new activities to the XO, we could push it from the XS. By sugar-update-control do you mean the Software Update in the control Panel (Settings)? Jerry, I had to manually add http://schoolserver/activities; to the Group under Software Update in the Control Panel. Then, when I run the update, it pings the XS and grabs new activities. Is this expected behavior? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] pushing activities to XOs
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Jerry, I had to manually add http://schoolserver/activities; to the Group under Software Update in the Control Panel. Then, when I run the update, it pings the XS and grabs new activities. Is this expected behavior? Yes. For a deployment you would use olpc-os-builder to preset that address. And yes, there is a missing link in that this currently must be user-invoked; theres no fully automated way of pushing activities yet. I hope to be a part of solving that in a future release cycle. Daniel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] pushing activities to XOs
On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 10:28 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Jerry, I had to manually add http://schoolserver/activities; to the Group under Software Update in the Control Panel. Then, when I run the update, it pings the XS and grabs new activities. Is this expected behavior? Yes. For a deployment you would use olpc-os-builder to preset that address. Think if you use OOB to install system-wide you disable the auto-detection of schoolserver in sugar-update-control. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] pushing activities to XOs
On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 10:28 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Jerry, I had to manually add http://schoolserver/activities; to the Group under Software Update in the Control Panel. Then, when I run the update, it pings the XS and grabs new activities. Is this expected behavior? Yes. For a deployment you would use olpc-os-builder to preset that address. And yes, there is a missing link in that this currently must be user-invoked; theres no fully automated way of pushing activities yet. I hope to be a part of solving that in a future release cycle. Daniel Hi All: I've cc'd other that may have some interest in this and may be able to chime in on the subject. I'd prefer to call Software Update in the Control Panel Activity Updater from OLPC. You're able to call Activity Updater from OLPC from the cli in a terminal with ./model.py and get a listing but need something the equivalent to view.py for use from the cli to be useful for blind installation. We've in OLPCAU have been using sugar-client[1] to run yum in the background, so I've been thinking that we could maybe extend sugar-client to run Activity Updater in the same way. Think the additions to sugar-client and sugar-update-control might be of some interest to those who use sugar-client to push updates to the XO's. This is also related to patches[2] sent to the mailing-list altering the behaviour in that only pre-existing activities would be selected for updates, here is the use case for improvements suggested. This has opened up an avenue in which we can offer bundles that are not installed on the image but can be user installed on demand[3]. This requires a minor change to OOB to use a different url[4] for the update. We have deployed this in the field and have received positive feed. Jerry 1. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Platform_Team/Server_Kit/sugar-client 2. http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2011-December/034022.html 3. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/383 4. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/OLPCAU/11.3.1/Addons ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] pushing activities to XOs
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 14:51 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Is there a way to push activities (new or upgrades) or activity bundles to XOs seamlessly via the XS? Been looking at the documentation on the wiki, but no luck as yet... http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/dbagnall/xs-activity-server.git/tree/README Think sugar-update-control supports looking for http://schoolserver/activities by default. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Pushing Activities to XOs
Another possibility might be http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update#Cloning_the_Sender.27s_NAND . ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Pushing Activities to XOs
Additional detail is that cloning requires security-disabled receivers. On Dec 22, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: Yep - with the small detail that it overwrites the nand storage. The other options under discussion preserve user data, etc... cheers, m On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote: Another possibility might be http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update#Cloning_the_Sender.27s_NAND . ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Pushing Activities to XOs
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: I have about 140 XOs connecting to a XS server (version .6). Can I push activities to the laptops? Yes but... - it is only easy if you prepared things on your base image for the XOs beforehand - it doesn't 'push' the activities, but a visit to control panel - software update will trigger the update On the XS, this is handled by xs-activity-server -- documented in /usr/share/doc/xs-activity-server/README. The XOs need to know to look to the XS, this is controlled by a little config file documented in the wikipage of the software updater. My recommendation for something effective: put the .xo files on the XS, link to them with large icons on the Moodle homepage. Our experience with Uy is that kids learn how to install/upgrade activities easily... and find it addictive. Only a disk-full will stop them ;-) [ The OS/UI design way back then was to make updating the OS controllable centrally, and to leave activity upgrades as a user-driven action. I mention this to explain the hysterical raisins, no justification or judgement on the topic... ] m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Pushing Activities to XOs
Also, is it now, or will it be, possible to have activities updated automatically by the server? I am noting some oddities with software updating and also inconsistencies with the OLPC and Sugar sites. Some (the C1s) XOs report all well - no need to update. Some (the B4s) report a long list of updates needed. But they have exactly the same versions of activities loaded. I go to the OLPC wiki activities page and the latest version download links are not being updated by the look of it. Anyway the problem remains, you have 100+ XOs in a school. How do we update them all short of having an upgrade flash-drive party? David Leeming Solomon Islands Rural Link http://www.leeming-consulting.com From: server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org [mailto:server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Ardito Sent: Sunday, 20 December 2009 11:53 p.m. To: server-devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Server-devel] Pushing Activities to XOs Hello all. I have about 140 XOs connecting to a XS server (version .6). Can I push activities to the laptops? If so, how? Thanks. Gerald ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
