Re: Book on how to run your own mail server
Good question ;-) Yes that is exactly what JMAP is! James supports JMAP with the cassandra backend and the (upcoming) PostgreSQL backend. It is not included in the JPA backend. Short story long: in JMAP one can access messages with a global identifier, so independently of any mailbox. This was a big refactoring never undertook on top of the JPA implementation. In case you look for a JMAP client, LINAGORA edits https://github.com/linagora/tmail-flutter/ which is compatible with Apache James (WebMail, Android, IOS). Also https://jmap.io is a good source of information on JMAP. Best regards, Benoit TELLIER On 27/05/2024 15:19, Ilya Terskov wrote: Hi there, yeah i try it thanks for info :) can i ask about jmap future? I think its rly cool protocol like imap + activesync but open source and more standardized, for now only Cassandra have jmap? пн, 27 мая 2024 г., 16:10 Benoit TELLIER : Hi Ilya, Guice apps had been architected in that exact way. You can achieve the goal of building what we call "A tailor made server" by writing your own assembly of guice module based on those defined in https://github.com/apache/james-project/tree/master/server/container/guice . We as a project provide an example of such assembly: https://github.com/apache/james-project/tree/master/examples/custom-james-assembly This approach allows you to define only the components you want and minimize classpath dependencies as well. Is that your answer? Best regards, Benoit TELLIER On 24/05/2024 15:23, Ilya Terskov wrote: Well i personally find spring a little bit more stable than guice, but there also cassandra app and pulsar smtp app https://github.com/apache/james-project/tree/master/server%2Fapps%2Fscaling-pulsar-smtp I sure puslar smtp can be done into fully mail combine. I really want minimal solution. Just like gentoo works - completely cut off pop3 and other stuff that not needed only imap,smtp and some other needed for full working chain How it can be done? пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:49 Benoit TELLIER : Hi Ilya, I and LINAGORA company uses Distributed James server CF https://james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/index.html which I would consider being most stable (with RabbitMQ). Though dependencies are hard to set up, expensive to host and complicated to operate, and are more suitable for bigger deployments. An initiative with PGSQL is promissing but still young and likely not mature enough. Althouth being the current default option (thanks to its simplicity and absence of external dependency) the JPA code is old and inefficient. I did performance test this a few months ago and it was mostly okish but to be fair I consider it mostly as "legacy". And I would be happy to "kill" the Spring assembly :-) That's for my thoughts and I would agree we would need to have a simpler to consume output as a project: there's too many artefacts to choose from and as a user it is hard to navigate. Does this answer your question? Regards, Benoit On 24/05/2024 14:29, Ilya Terskov wrote: Hi there! Benoit sorry for disturbing you with my bugs :) Can i ask what better for stable production activemq, rabbitmq, pulsar or something else? How can i add this to typical james pack of programs? пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:25 Benoit TELLIER : Hi Eugen! Thanks for the links. I pledged for two books, one for me, one for LINAGORA as a company. Of course this might get really handy for both Apache James and for services we provide @LINAGORA. > I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help otehr people that wish to self host with James. +1 ! Bonus point on my side to do it with the brand new PGSQL backend ;-) Benoit On 23/05/2024 21:31, Eugen Stan wrote: Hi, There is an ongoing campain for a book about self hosting an email server. It's not James specific but I believe it's of interest. The author claims the book is ready and from what I saw / and researched about him I trust he's speaking the truth. I pledged to get the ebook and hope to self host by the end of the year with Apache James. I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help otehr people that wish to self host with James. Consider getting the book if you are self hosting or want to support more people self hosting. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mwlucas/run-your-own-mail-server/description Regards, - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-
Re: Book on how to run your own mail server
Hi there, yeah i try it thanks for info :) can i ask about jmap future? I think its rly cool protocol like imap + activesync but open source and more standardized, for now only Cassandra have jmap? пн, 27 мая 2024 г., 16:10 Benoit TELLIER : > Hi Ilya, > > Guice apps had been architected in that exact way. > > You can achieve the goal of building what we call "A tailor made server" > by writing your own assembly of guice module based on those defined in > https://github.com/apache/james-project/tree/master/server/container/guice > . > > We as a project provide an example of such assembly: > > https://github.com/apache/james-project/tree/master/examples/custom-james-assembly > > This approach allows you to define only the components you want and > minimize classpath dependencies as well. > > Is that your answer? > > Best regards, > > Benoit TELLIER > > On 24/05/2024 15:23, Ilya Terskov wrote: > > Well i personally find spring a little bit more stable than guice, but > > there also cassandra app and pulsar smtp app > > > https://github.com/apache/james-project/tree/master/server%2Fapps%2Fscaling-pulsar-smtp > > I sure puslar smtp can be done into fully mail combine. I really want > > minimal solution. Just like gentoo works - completely cut off pop3 and > > other stuff that not needed only imap,smtp and some other needed for full > > working chain > > How it can be done? > > > > пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:49 Benoit TELLIER : > > > >> Hi Ilya, > >> > >> I and LINAGORA company uses Distributed James server CF > >> https://james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/index.html > >> which I would consider being most stable (with RabbitMQ). Though > >> dependencies are hard to set up, expensive to host and complicated to > >> operate, and are more suitable for bigger deployments. > >> > >> An initiative with PGSQL is promissing but still young and likely not > >> mature enough. > >> > >> Althouth being the current default option (thanks to its simplicity and > >> absence of external dependency) the JPA code is old and inefficient. I > >> did performance test this a few months ago and it was mostly okish but > >> to be fair I consider it mostly as "legacy". > >> > >> And I would be happy to "kill" the Spring assembly :-) > >> > >> That's for my thoughts and I would agree we would need to have a simpler > >> to consume output as a project: there's too many artefacts to choose > >> from and as a user it is hard to navigate. > >> > >> Does this answer your question? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Benoit > >> > >> On 24/05/2024 14:29, Ilya Terskov wrote: > >>> Hi there! > >>> Benoit sorry for disturbing you with my bugs :) > >>> Can i ask what better for stable production activemq, rabbitmq, pulsar > or > >>> something else? How can i add this to typical james pack of programs? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:25 Benoit TELLIER : > >>> > Hi Eugen! > > Thanks for the links. > > I pledged for two books, one for me, one for LINAGORA as a company. Of > course this might get really handy for both Apache James and for > services we provide @LINAGORA. > > > I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will > help otehr people that wish to self host with James. > > +1 ! > > Bonus point on my side to do it with the brand new PGSQL backend ;-) > > Benoit > > On 23/05/2024 21:31, Eugen Stan wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There is an ongoing campain for a book about self hosting an email > > server. > > > > It's not James specific but I believe it's of interest. > > The author claims the book is ready and from what I saw / and > > researched about him I trust he's speaking the truth. > > > > I pledged to get the ebook and hope to self host by the end of the > > year with Apache James. > > I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will > help > > otehr people that wish to self host with James. > > > > Consider getting the book if you are self hosting or want to support > > more people self hosting. > > > > > >> > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mwlucas/run-your-own-mail-server/description > > Regards, > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org > > > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org > >> > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org > >
Re: Book on how to run your own mail server
Hi Ilya, Guice apps had been architected in that exact way. You can achieve the goal of building what we call "A tailor made server" by writing your own assembly of guice module based on those defined in https://github.com/apache/james-project/tree/master/server/container/guice . We as a project provide an example of such assembly: https://github.com/apache/james-project/tree/master/examples/custom-james-assembly This approach allows you to define only the components you want and minimize classpath dependencies as well. Is that your answer? Best regards, Benoit TELLIER On 24/05/2024 15:23, Ilya Terskov wrote: Well i personally find spring a little bit more stable than guice, but there also cassandra app and pulsar smtp app https://github.com/apache/james-project/tree/master/server%2Fapps%2Fscaling-pulsar-smtp I sure puslar smtp can be done into fully mail combine. I really want minimal solution. Just like gentoo works - completely cut off pop3 and other stuff that not needed only imap,smtp and some other needed for full working chain How it can be done? пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:49 Benoit TELLIER : Hi Ilya, I and LINAGORA company uses Distributed James server CF https://james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/index.html which I would consider being most stable (with RabbitMQ). Though dependencies are hard to set up, expensive to host and complicated to operate, and are more suitable for bigger deployments. An initiative with PGSQL is promissing but still young and likely not mature enough. Althouth being the current default option (thanks to its simplicity and absence of external dependency) the JPA code is old and inefficient. I did performance test this a few months ago and it was mostly okish but to be fair I consider it mostly as "legacy". And I would be happy to "kill" the Spring assembly :-) That's for my thoughts and I would agree we would need to have a simpler to consume output as a project: there's too many artefacts to choose from and as a user it is hard to navigate. Does this answer your question? Regards, Benoit On 24/05/2024 14:29, Ilya Terskov wrote: Hi there! Benoit sorry for disturbing you with my bugs :) Can i ask what better for stable production activemq, rabbitmq, pulsar or something else? How can i add this to typical james pack of programs? пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:25 Benoit TELLIER : Hi Eugen! Thanks for the links. I pledged for two books, one for me, one for LINAGORA as a company. Of course this might get really handy for both Apache James and for services we provide @LINAGORA. > I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help otehr people that wish to self host with James. +1 ! Bonus point on my side to do it with the brand new PGSQL backend ;-) Benoit On 23/05/2024 21:31, Eugen Stan wrote: Hi, There is an ongoing campain for a book about self hosting an email server. It's not James specific but I believe it's of interest. The author claims the book is ready and from what I saw / and researched about him I trust he's speaking the truth. I pledged to get the ebook and hope to self host by the end of the year with Apache James. I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help otehr people that wish to self host with James. Consider getting the book if you are self hosting or want to support more people self hosting. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mwlucas/run-your-own-mail-server/description Regards, - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org
Re: Book on how to run your own mail server
Hi Karsten -- Thanks for your response, I wasn't aware of these S3-compatible possibilities! The "no downtime" option is always nice to have even for smaller deployments. Rich From: "Karsten Otto" To: server-user@james.apache.org Date: 05/25/2024 10:19 AM Subject: Re: Book on how to run your own mail server Hi Rich, you don't need a paid Amazon subscription, any S3 compatible solution will work as well. I have tested it successfully with Zenko Cloudserver and MinIO. But I agree that this kind of deployment only makes sense if you need to scale James for a lot of simultaneous users, prevent maintenance downtime, and all the other things you would want a service cluster for. Cheers, Karsten On 24.05.24 11:34 PM, tempbo...@hotmail.com wrote: > Hi Benoit -- > > What's inefficient about the JPA version compared to the others? And I > hope the Spring version isn't deprecated anytime soon since I've been > successfully using the Spring versions for years. They're about as simple > and secure as it gets for running your own free mail server software. > > The Cassandra version makes the least sense for a small business wanting > to self-host since it requires paid Amazon S3, not to mention the added > complexity/maintenance. > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > Rich > > > > > > From: "Benoit TELLIER" > To: server-user@james.apache.org > Date: 05/24/2024 05:17 PM > Subject:Re: Book on how to run your own mail server > > > > Hi Ilya, > > I and LINAGORA company uses Distributed James server CF > https://james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/index.html > which I would consider being most stable (with RabbitMQ). Though > dependencies are hard to set up, expensive to host and complicated to > operate, and are more suitable for bigger deployments. > > An initiative with PGSQL is promissing but still young and likely not > mature enough. > > Althouth being the current default option (thanks to its simplicity and > absence of external dependency) the JPA code is old and inefficient. I > did performance test this a few months ago and it was mostly okish but > to be fair I consider it mostly as "legacy". > > And I would be happy to "kill" the Spring assembly :-) > > That's for my thoughts and I would agree we would need to have a simpler > to consume output as a project: there's too many artefacts to choose > from and as a user it is hard to navigate. > > Does this answer your question? > > Regards, > > Benoit > > On 24/05/2024 14:29, Ilya Terskov wrote: >> Hi there! >> Benoit sorry for disturbing you with my bugs :) >> Can i ask what better for stable production activemq, rabbitmq, pulsar > or >> something else? How can i add this to typical james pack of programs? >> >> >> >> пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:25 Benoit TELLIER : >> >>> Hi Eugen! >>> >>> Thanks for the links. >>> >>> I pledged for two books, one for me, one for LINAGORA as a company. Of >>> course this might get really handy for both Apache James and for >>> services we provide @LINAGORA. >>> >>>> I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will >>> help otehr people that wish to self host with James. >>> >>> +1 ! >>> >>> Bonus point on my side to do it with the brand new PGSQL backend ;-) >>> >>> Benoit >>> >>> On 23/05/2024 21:31, Eugen Stan wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> There is an ongoing campain for a book about self hosting an email >>>> server. >>>> >>>> It's not James specific but I believe it's of interest. >>>> The author claims the book is ready and from what I saw / and >>>> researched about him I trust he's speaking the truth. >>>> >>>> I pledged to get the ebook and hope to self host by the end of the >>>> year with Apache James. >>>> I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help >>>> otehr people that wish to self host with James. >>>> >>>> Consider getting the book if you are self hosting or want to support >>>> more people self hosting. >>>> >>>> >>> > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mwlucas/run-your-own-mail-server/description >>>> >>>> Regards, >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org >>> >>> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org > > > >
Re: Book on how to run your own mail server
Hi Rich, you don't need a paid Amazon subscription, any S3 compatible solution will work as well. I have tested it successfully with Zenko Cloudserver and MinIO. But I agree that this kind of deployment only makes sense if you need to scale James for a lot of simultaneous users, prevent maintenance downtime, and all the other things you would want a service cluster for. Cheers, Karsten On 24.05.24 11:34 PM, tempbo...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Benoit -- What's inefficient about the JPA version compared to the others? And I hope the Spring version isn't deprecated anytime soon since I've been successfully using the Spring versions for years. They're about as simple and secure as it gets for running your own free mail server software. The Cassandra version makes the least sense for a small business wanting to self-host since it requires paid Amazon S3, not to mention the added complexity/maintenance. Thanks for your thoughts! Rich From: "Benoit TELLIER" To: server-user@james.apache.org Date: 05/24/2024 05:17 PM Subject: Re: Book on how to run your own mail server Hi Ilya, I and LINAGORA company uses Distributed James server CF https://james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/index.html which I would consider being most stable (with RabbitMQ). Though dependencies are hard to set up, expensive to host and complicated to operate, and are more suitable for bigger deployments. An initiative with PGSQL is promissing but still young and likely not mature enough. Althouth being the current default option (thanks to its simplicity and absence of external dependency) the JPA code is old and inefficient. I did performance test this a few months ago and it was mostly okish but to be fair I consider it mostly as "legacy". And I would be happy to "kill" the Spring assembly :-) That's for my thoughts and I would agree we would need to have a simpler to consume output as a project: there's too many artefacts to choose from and as a user it is hard to navigate. Does this answer your question? Regards, Benoit On 24/05/2024 14:29, Ilya Terskov wrote: Hi there! Benoit sorry for disturbing you with my bugs :) Can i ask what better for stable production activemq, rabbitmq, pulsar or something else? How can i add this to typical james pack of programs? пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:25 Benoit TELLIER : Hi Eugen! Thanks for the links. I pledged for two books, one for me, one for LINAGORA as a company. Of course this might get really handy for both Apache James and for services we provide @LINAGORA. > I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help otehr people that wish to self host with James. +1 ! Bonus point on my side to do it with the brand new PGSQL backend ;-) Benoit On 23/05/2024 21:31, Eugen Stan wrote: Hi, There is an ongoing campain for a book about self hosting an email server. It's not James specific but I believe it's of interest. The author claims the book is ready and from what I saw / and researched about him I trust he's speaking the truth. I pledged to get the ebook and hope to self host by the end of the year with Apache James. I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help otehr people that wish to self host with James. Consider getting the book if you are self hosting or want to support more people self hosting. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mwlucas/run-your-own-mail-server/description Regards, - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Book on how to run your own mail server
Hi Benoit -- What's inefficient about the JPA version compared to the others? And I hope the Spring version isn't deprecated anytime soon since I've been successfully using the Spring versions for years. They're about as simple and secure as it gets for running your own free mail server software. The Cassandra version makes the least sense for a small business wanting to self-host since it requires paid Amazon S3, not to mention the added complexity/maintenance. Thanks for your thoughts! Rich From: "Benoit TELLIER" To: server-user@james.apache.org Date: 05/24/2024 05:17 PM Subject: Re: Book on how to run your own mail server Hi Ilya, I and LINAGORA company uses Distributed James server CF https://james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/index.html which I would consider being most stable (with RabbitMQ). Though dependencies are hard to set up, expensive to host and complicated to operate, and are more suitable for bigger deployments. An initiative with PGSQL is promissing but still young and likely not mature enough. Althouth being the current default option (thanks to its simplicity and absence of external dependency) the JPA code is old and inefficient. I did performance test this a few months ago and it was mostly okish but to be fair I consider it mostly as "legacy". And I would be happy to "kill" the Spring assembly :-) That's for my thoughts and I would agree we would need to have a simpler to consume output as a project: there's too many artefacts to choose from and as a user it is hard to navigate. Does this answer your question? Regards, Benoit On 24/05/2024 14:29, Ilya Terskov wrote: > Hi there! > Benoit sorry for disturbing you with my bugs :) > Can i ask what better for stable production activemq, rabbitmq, pulsar or > something else? How can i add this to typical james pack of programs? > > > > пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:25 Benoit TELLIER : > >> Hi Eugen! >> >> Thanks for the links. >> >> I pledged for two books, one for me, one for LINAGORA as a company. Of >> course this might get really handy for both Apache James and for >> services we provide @LINAGORA. >> >> > I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will >> help otehr people that wish to self host with James. >> >> +1 ! >> >> Bonus point on my side to do it with the brand new PGSQL backend ;-) >> >> Benoit >> >> On 23/05/2024 21:31, Eugen Stan wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> There is an ongoing campain for a book about self hosting an email >>> server. >>> >>> It's not James specific but I believe it's of interest. >>> The author claims the book is ready and from what I saw / and >>> researched about him I trust he's speaking the truth. >>> >>> I pledged to get the ebook and hope to self host by the end of the >>> year with Apache James. >>> I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help >>> otehr people that wish to self host with James. >>> >>> Consider getting the book if you are self hosting or want to support >>> more people self hosting. >>> >>> >> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mwlucas/run-your-own-mail-server/description >>> >>> Regards, >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org
Re: Book on how to run your own mail server
Well i personally find spring a little bit more stable than guice, but there also cassandra app and pulsar smtp app https://github.com/apache/james-project/tree/master/server%2Fapps%2Fscaling-pulsar-smtp I sure puslar smtp can be done into fully mail combine. I really want minimal solution. Just like gentoo works - completely cut off pop3 and other stuff that not needed only imap,smtp and some other needed for full working chain How it can be done? пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:49 Benoit TELLIER : > Hi Ilya, > > I and LINAGORA company uses Distributed James server CF > https://james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/index.html > which I would consider being most stable (with RabbitMQ). Though > dependencies are hard to set up, expensive to host and complicated to > operate, and are more suitable for bigger deployments. > > An initiative with PGSQL is promissing but still young and likely not > mature enough. > > Althouth being the current default option (thanks to its simplicity and > absence of external dependency) the JPA code is old and inefficient. I > did performance test this a few months ago and it was mostly okish but > to be fair I consider it mostly as "legacy". > > And I would be happy to "kill" the Spring assembly :-) > > That's for my thoughts and I would agree we would need to have a simpler > to consume output as a project: there's too many artefacts to choose > from and as a user it is hard to navigate. > > Does this answer your question? > > Regards, > > Benoit > > On 24/05/2024 14:29, Ilya Terskov wrote: > > Hi there! > > Benoit sorry for disturbing you with my bugs :) > > Can i ask what better for stable production activemq, rabbitmq, pulsar or > > something else? How can i add this to typical james pack of programs? > > > > > > > > пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:25 Benoit TELLIER : > > > >> Hi Eugen! > >> > >> Thanks for the links. > >> > >> I pledged for two books, one for me, one for LINAGORA as a company. Of > >> course this might get really handy for both Apache James and for > >> services we provide @LINAGORA. > >> > >> > I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will > >> help otehr people that wish to self host with James. > >> > >> +1 ! > >> > >> Bonus point on my side to do it with the brand new PGSQL backend ;-) > >> > >> Benoit > >> > >> On 23/05/2024 21:31, Eugen Stan wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> There is an ongoing campain for a book about self hosting an email > >>> server. > >>> > >>> It's not James specific but I believe it's of interest. > >>> The author claims the book is ready and from what I saw / and > >>> researched about him I trust he's speaking the truth. > >>> > >>> I pledged to get the ebook and hope to self host by the end of the > >>> year with Apache James. > >>> I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help > >>> otehr people that wish to self host with James. > >>> > >>> Consider getting the book if you are self hosting or want to support > >>> more people self hosting. > >>> > >>> > >> > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mwlucas/run-your-own-mail-server/description > >>> > >>> Regards, > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org > >> > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org > >
Re: Book on how to run your own mail server
Hi Ilya, I and LINAGORA company uses Distributed James server CF https://james.staged.apache.org/james-distributed-app/3.8.1/index.html which I would consider being most stable (with RabbitMQ). Though dependencies are hard to set up, expensive to host and complicated to operate, and are more suitable for bigger deployments. An initiative with PGSQL is promissing but still young and likely not mature enough. Althouth being the current default option (thanks to its simplicity and absence of external dependency) the JPA code is old and inefficient. I did performance test this a few months ago and it was mostly okish but to be fair I consider it mostly as "legacy". And I would be happy to "kill" the Spring assembly :-) That's for my thoughts and I would agree we would need to have a simpler to consume output as a project: there's too many artefacts to choose from and as a user it is hard to navigate. Does this answer your question? Regards, Benoit On 24/05/2024 14:29, Ilya Terskov wrote: Hi there! Benoit sorry for disturbing you with my bugs :) Can i ask what better for stable production activemq, rabbitmq, pulsar or something else? How can i add this to typical james pack of programs? пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:25 Benoit TELLIER : Hi Eugen! Thanks for the links. I pledged for two books, one for me, one for LINAGORA as a company. Of course this might get really handy for both Apache James and for services we provide @LINAGORA. > I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help otehr people that wish to self host with James. +1 ! Bonus point on my side to do it with the brand new PGSQL backend ;-) Benoit On 23/05/2024 21:31, Eugen Stan wrote: Hi, There is an ongoing campain for a book about self hosting an email server. It's not James specific but I believe it's of interest. The author claims the book is ready and from what I saw / and researched about him I trust he's speaking the truth. I pledged to get the ebook and hope to self host by the end of the year with Apache James. I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help otehr people that wish to self host with James. Consider getting the book if you are self hosting or want to support more people self hosting. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mwlucas/run-your-own-mail-server/description Regards, - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org
Re: Book on how to run your own mail server
Hi there! Benoit sorry for disturbing you with my bugs :) Can i ask what better for stable production activemq, rabbitmq, pulsar or something else? How can i add this to typical james pack of programs? пт, 24 мая 2024 г., 19:25 Benoit TELLIER : > Hi Eugen! > > Thanks for the links. > > I pledged for two books, one for me, one for LINAGORA as a company. Of > course this might get really handy for both Apache James and for > services we provide @LINAGORA. > > > I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will > help otehr people that wish to self host with James. > > +1 ! > > Bonus point on my side to do it with the brand new PGSQL backend ;-) > > Benoit > > On 23/05/2024 21:31, Eugen Stan wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There is an ongoing campain for a book about self hosting an email > > server. > > > > It's not James specific but I believe it's of interest. > > The author claims the book is ready and from what I saw / and > > researched about him I trust he's speaking the truth. > > > > I pledged to get the ebook and hope to self host by the end of the > > year with Apache James. > > I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help > > otehr people that wish to self host with James. > > > > Consider getting the book if you are self hosting or want to support > > more people self hosting. > > > > > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mwlucas/run-your-own-mail-server/description > > > > > > Regards, > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org > >
Re: Book on how to run your own mail server
Hi Eugen! Thanks for the links. I pledged for two books, one for me, one for LINAGORA as a company. Of course this might get really handy for both Apache James and for services we provide @LINAGORA. > I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help otehr people that wish to self host with James. +1 ! Bonus point on my side to do it with the brand new PGSQL backend ;-) Benoit On 23/05/2024 21:31, Eugen Stan wrote: Hi, There is an ongoing campain for a book about self hosting an email server. It's not James specific but I believe it's of interest. The author claims the book is ready and from what I saw / and researched about him I trust he's speaking the truth. I pledged to get the ebook and hope to self host by the end of the year with Apache James. I also plan to document the process and produce a guide that will help otehr people that wish to self host with James. Consider getting the book if you are self hosting or want to support more people self hosting. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mwlucas/run-your-own-mail-server/description Regards, - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org
Re: Book on how to run your own mail server
>Hi, > >There is an ongoing campain for a book about self hosting an email server. I suggest have a look at https://dmatthews.org/email_server/perfect_email.html Much more exim4, but some very out of date James Also dovecot and stuff of peripheral interest such as fail2ban. The author has been running own mail exchanger for 15years, so he should know hat he's on abut.I should admit though it's me ;-0, but no real commercial interest at stake. -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-user-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-h...@james.apache.org
