Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-13 Thread Robert Devino
grip on  Sincerely, Robert Devino 14252 Delano St. Van Nuys, Ca. 91401 (818) 770-0475 From: Harry F. Schiestel h...@touriq.com To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:18:56 AM Subject: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? When Lloyd’s

ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-12 Thread Harry F. Schiestel
When Lloyd's gizmo said 7-Iron at 353 cpm does his software assume grip on or grip off for this value? Just wondering the assumption. Harry _

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread André Cantin
Robert. Have you ever played around with the Equaliser from the PCS? Great tool for everyone to be on the same page. André. - Original Message - From: Robert Devino To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread André Cantin
+/- 0.25 Hosel Depth = 2 CPM. +/- 2 Grams Head wt. = 1 CPM. - Original Message - From: Harry F. Schiestel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:42 PM Subject: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? -- Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila

RE: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread Childers, Tedd A
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Devino Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:24 PM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? Ok here is what I did exactly. Not really concerned

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread Robert Devino
From: Childers, Tedd A [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:18:10 AM Subject: RE: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? What frequency meter are you using?  Could be a function of how well the shaft is clamped at 2.5 vs

RE: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread Childers, Tedd A
From: owner-shopt...@mail.msen.com [mailto:owner-shopt...@mail.msen.com] On Behalf Of Robert Devino Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:02 AM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread TFLAN
, then up and down the set 7 grams apart. On woods I use the heads after weight sorting the shafts. Fairly basic stuff.   T --- On Wed, 12/10/08, Harry F. Schiestel h...@touriq.com wrote: From: Harry F. Schiestel h...@touriq.com Subject: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread Robert Devino
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? I took it from your post that when you measured a set of clubs at 2.5 clamp length, they fit onto the straight line slope as predicted, however, when you measured using the 5 clamp length, the long irons looked fine but the short irons gave

RE: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread Childers, Tedd A
...@mail.msen.com [mailto:owner-shopt...@mail.msen.com] On Behalf Of TFLAN Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:35 PM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? The 254 gm tip weight I use is a modifed drill chuck. I use

RE: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread Childers, Tedd A
To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? Ugh I'll buy that, it makes sense. It would be cool if we could find one system for all that gave us real readings. It would do alot so far as getting some kind of standard for us

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread Brad Smith
Robert, Regarding the method at HotStix..I assume that if you were going to build irons for a specific player, you'd have one frequency target for Rifles and a different for non-Rifles because of the different clamping length which causes different cantilevered beam lengths. Is that

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread Robert Devino
: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? Robert, Regarding the method at HotStix..I assume that if you were going to build irons for a specific player, you'd have one frequency target for Rifles and a different for non-Rifles because of the different clamping length which causes different

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread Brad Smith
, Robert Devino 14252 Delano St. Van Nuys, Ca. 91401 (818) 770-0475 From: Brad Smith bms0...@pacbell.net To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:29:40 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? Robert, Regarding the method at HotStix..I assume that if you were

ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread Harry F. Schiestel
This sure has opened up a can of worms, what is a true R, S, X flex?

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread TFLAN
-iron at 353 cpm - how? To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 1:07 PM This sure has opened up a can of worms, what is a true R, S, X flex? -- Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila Voodoo. Learn more at http://aldilavoodoo.com/

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread Robert Devino
in the Mitchell   Sincerely, Robert Devino 14252 Delano St. Van Nuys, Ca. 91401 (818) 770-0475 From: Brad Smith bms0...@pacbell.net To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:22:08 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? I

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread Robert Devino
. 91401 (818) 770-0475 From: TFLAN tf...@prodigy.net To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:22:45 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? Yes indeedy! You may recall we went through this exercise a couple years ago

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread André Cantin
Hi Robert. The Equalizer is a software program that was built for standardizing shaft flex for the golf Industry. This system was introduced by the PCS a couple of years back for members only. The package included a shaft with a predetermined frequency( precision shaft with a high

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-11 Thread André Cantin
. 91401 (818) 770-0475 -- From: Childers, Tedd A tedd.a.child...@pfizer.com To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:18:10 AM Subject: RE: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? What frequency

RE: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-10 Thread Childers, Tedd A
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:15 PM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? Hi Harry Why not a 5 inch clamp. The BTR shaft is designed by the same guy that designed the rifle shafts. It is basically

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-10 Thread Brad Smith
-0475 From: Harry F. Schiestel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 10:54:22 PM Subject: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? Hi Robert, Why do you not use a 5” clamp like most other clubmakers so cpm numbers can be compared easily? Just curious! When you

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-10 Thread TFLAN
, IMO. I prefer no grip testing. And, I use a 254 gram tip weight and a 5 clamp insertion. TFlan --- On Wed, 12/10/08, Robert Devino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert Devino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Date: Wednesday

ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-10 Thread Harry F. Schiestel
: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:33 PM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? How come you don't mention tip weight? That is certainly a major factor in determining freqs regardless of clamp insertion depth. Freq'ing with grip on only shows fewer cpm's and has

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-10 Thread Robert Devino
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:54:50 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? Bob,  I think the point that Harry was making regarding the Braly shafts is, why not redraw the frequency charts based on 5 clamping?  (generally considered

Re: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-10 Thread Robert Devino
] To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:42:00 PM Subject: ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how? TFlan you are indeed correct, it's important to also state the tip weight used.  For irons and woods I use a 205 gram drill chuck.  What do you use for wood shafts, do you still use 254

ShopTalk: 7-iron at 353 cpm - how?

2008-12-09 Thread Harry F. Schiestel
Hi Robert, Why do you not use a 5 clamp like most other clubmakers so cpm numbers can be compared easily? Just curious! When you specify FitChip fitting it recommend that I be using a 7-iron cycling at 353 cycles using a 5 clamp. I have a question . does this stated number assume a