Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-29 Thread Paolo Basenghi
Tom Eastep wrote: > Products that end in '-ng' typically replace the product with the same > name but without the '-ng'. That isn't going to happen here. So I prefer > 'shorewall-pl'. > I agree! And I add that: 1) extensions like "-ng" are mostly marketing extension and Shorewall does not need

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-29 Thread Mike Lander
Hi Tom, Wanted to thank you on the recent post to help me with tcrules. I have all my firewalls with two isp's and even the ones with one isp working good. Voip was was my motive to learn this. Before I stuck with the wondershaper which fit most of my needs. I have been so busy lately, no time

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-28 Thread Tom Eastep
Simon Hobson wrote: > Tom Eastep wrote: > >> Eventually, I might break Shorewall into three pieces: >> >> - shorewall-common >> - shorewall-shell >> - shorewall-perl > > Now that does make sense. > As such time as I do this (maybe as early as Shorewall 4.0.0), I will be looking for someone else

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-28 Thread Tressler, Joshua A.
kBerry Wireless Handheld -Original Message- From: Simon Hobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:04:11 To:Shorewall Users Subject: Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4 Tom Eastep wrote: >Eventually, I might break Shorewall into three pieces: > >- shore

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-28 Thread Simon Hobson
Tom Eastep wrote: >Eventually, I might break Shorewall into three pieces: > >- shorewall-common >- shorewall-shell >- shorewall-perl Now that does make sense. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join Sourc

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-27 Thread Tom Eastep
Simon Hobson wrote: > > > I've been thinking about this on and off, and one twisted logic > process says you should call the new package Shorewall2 ! At the > moment we have 'Shorewall' version 3.4.2, the new package would be > 'Shorewall2' version 1.. > > I don't think that would be any less

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-27 Thread Simon Hobson
Tom Eastep wrote: >Shortly after I release Shorewall 3.4.2, I will be issuing the first release >of the new development thread which I'm calling Shorewall4. > >I'm announcing the new product ahead of time so that people will have a >chance to comment on the approach (and the product name) in advan

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-24 Thread Tom Eastep
Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 10:50:54AM -0700, Tom Eastep wrote: > > - The code should be hugely simpler to understand (any non-trivial > program written in shell spends half the code working around the > limitations of shell), which makes it much more practical for random

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 08:58:54PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > Perhaps 'shorewall-compiler' or something like that? That's the > essential difference of this code, as far as I can see. > I don't like it. How about northwall, ridgewall, seawall or richwall? :-) Regards, -Roberto -- Rob

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-24 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 10:50:54AM -0700, Tom Eastep wrote: > The good news: > > a) The compiler has a small disk footprint (although Perl is large). > b) The compiler is very fast. > c) The compiler generates a firewall script that uses iptables-restore; > so the script is very fast. Now that's

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-24 Thread Tom Eastep
Andrew Suffield wrote: > > Perhaps 'shorewall-compiler' or something like that? That's the > essential difference of this code, as far as I can see. > I disagree. Shorewall has included a compiler since Shorewall 3.2 so the fact that this product includes a compiler does not distinguish it from

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-24 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 11:37:39AM -0700, Tom Eastep wrote: > Products that end in '-ng' typically replace the product with the same > name but without the '-ng'. That isn't going to happen here. So I prefer > 'shorewall-pl'. Language-specific names are usually a bad idea in the long run. There's

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-24 Thread Tom Eastep
Henrique Cesar Ulbrich wrote: > Historiadores acreditam que, > em Sáb 24 Mar 2007, Vieri Di Paola disse: >> Just a thought but considering the shorewall-lite >> package title format one may also call it shorewall-ng >> or shorewall-pl. >> I prefer package names without numbers but that's just >> m

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-24 Thread Henrique Cesar Ulbrich
Historiadores acreditam que, em Sáb 24 Mar 2007, Vieri Di Paola disse: > Just a thought but considering the shorewall-lite > package title format one may also call it shorewall-ng > or shorewall-pl. > I prefer package names without numbers but that's just > my opinion. I agree. The current stabl

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-24 Thread Tom Eastep
Vieri Di Paola wrote: > --- Tom Eastep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm announcing the new product ahead of time so that >> people will have a >> chance to comment on the approach (and the product >> name) in advance of the >> initial release. > > Just a thought but considering the shorewall-l

Re: [Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-24 Thread Vieri Di Paola
--- Tom Eastep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm announcing the new product ahead of time so that > people will have a > chance to comment on the approach (and the product > name) in advance of the > initial release. Just a thought but considering the shorewall-lite package title format one may a

[Shorewall-users] Shorewall4

2007-03-24 Thread Tom Eastep
Shortly after I release Shorewall 3.4.2, I will be issuing the first release of the new development thread which I'm calling Shorewall4. I'm announcing the new product ahead of time so that people will have a chance to comment on the approach (and the product name) in advance of the initial releas