Re: [SIESTA-L] Forces on crystalline atoms are not zero

2022-04-02 Por tôpico Francisco Garcia
Thanks for your responses. I figured out my errors. The problem has been
resolved.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 3:50 PM Andrei Postnikov <
andrei.postni...@univ-lorraine.fr> wrote:

> Dear Francisco:
> as a general statement, your expectation is justified. However, unexpected
> things happen.
> Having posted an (input) / output file would help to pinpoint a problem.
> Without any additional information, I'd guess that your lattice vectors
> are not exactly fcc,
> or the atoms are not exactly at symmetric positions. (E.g., you think that
> you scale
> the atom coordinates with lattice parameter, but in fact you don't).
>
> Best regards
>
> Andrei Postnikov
>
>
> - Francisco Garcia  a écrit :
> >
> Dear Users
>
> I performed a series of single point energy calculations on an FCC crystal
> by varying the lattice constant. I'm trying to generate data points to
> optimize the lattice constant
>
> I was expecting the force on each atom to zero by virtue of crystalline
> symmetry (no internal degree of freedom). But to my surprise, the forces
> are not zero. Increasing the Mesh cutoff from 300 Ry to higher values
> didn't help either. How is it possible for the atomic forces in a crystal
> to be non-zero?
>
>
>

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Re: [SIESTA-L] Forces on crystalline atoms are not zero

2022-03-29 Por tôpico Alberto Garcia
Hi,

There must be some issue with your input. Could you share it?

 Regards,

 Alberto


- El 28 de Marzo de 2022, a las 02:52, Francisco Garcia 
garcia.ff@gmail.com escribió:

| Dear Users
| 
| I performed a series of single point energy calculations on an FCC crystal by
| varying the lattice constant. I'm trying to generate data points to optimize
| the lattice constant
| 
| I was expecting the force on each atom to zero by virtue of crystalline 
symmetry
| (no internal degree of freedom). But to my surprise, the forces are not zero.
| Increasing the Mesh cutoff from 300 Ry to higher values didn't help either. 
How
| is it possible for the atomic forces in a crystal to be non-zero?
| 
| 
| 
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| SIESTA is supported by the Spanish Research Agency (AEI) and by the European
| H2020 MaX Centre of Excellence (http://www.max-centre.eu/)

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Re: [SIESTA-L] Forces on crystalline atoms are not zero

2022-03-29 Por tôpico Andrei Postnikov
Dear Francisco:as a general statement, your expectation is justified. However, 
unexpected things happen.Having posted an (input) / output file would help to 
pinpoint a problem. Without any additional information, I'd guess that your 
lattice vectors are not exactly fcc, or the atoms are not exactly at symmetric 
positions. (E.g., you think that you scalethe atom coordinates with lattice 
parameter, but in fact you don't).Best regardsAndrei Postnikov
- Francisco Garcia  a écrit :
>Dear Users
I performed a series of single point energy calculations on an FCC crystal by 
varying the lattice constant. I'm trying to generate data points to optimize 
the lattice constant

I was expecting the force on each atom to zero by virtue of crystalline 
symmetry (no internal degree of freedom). But to my surprise, the forces are 
not zero. Increasing the Mesh cutoff from 300 Ry to higher values didn't help 
either. How is it possible for the atomic forces in a crystal to be non-zero?



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H2020 MaX Centre of Excellence (http://www.max-centre.eu/)


[SIESTA-L] Forces on crystalline atoms are not zero

2022-03-28 Por tôpico Francisco Garcia
Dear Users

I performed a series of single point energy calculations on an FCC crystal
by varying the lattice constant. I'm trying to generate data points to
optimize the lattice constant

I was expecting the force on each atom to zero by virtue of crystalline
symmetry (no internal degree of freedom). But to my surprise, the forces
are not zero. Increasing the Mesh cutoff from 300 Ry to higher values
didn't help either. How is it possible for the atomic forces in a crystal
to be non-zero?

-- 
SIESTA is supported by the Spanish Research Agency (AEI) and by the European 
H2020 MaX Centre of Excellence (http://www.max-centre.eu/)