[sig-policy] Re: APNIC EC Endorses Proposal from APNIC 56

2024-02-07 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
Dear EC. Since you will be meeting soon in person with the members, I want to raise this topic again as an APNIC member and also a member of the APNIC community . While I understand the EC's authority in determining fee structures without mandatory community input, the community support for a

[sig-policy] Re: APNIC EC Endorses Proposal from APNIC 56

2023-12-13 Thread Luke Thompson via SIG-policy
Thanks Chris, appreciate your replies. I won't give it comment line-by-line though it gives me far more insight. Take what the SIG feels has value from what I've sent, disregard the rest! Many thanks, Luke On 14/12/2023 10:13 am, Christopher Hawker wrote: Hi Luke, See comments in-line.

[sig-policy] Re: APNIC EC Endorses Proposal from APNIC 56

2023-12-13 Thread Christopher Hawker
Hi Luke, See comments in-line. > I am not adequately versed in the nuances of what makes the EC's last-minute > decision something permissible, yet don't feel like what's taken place this > week re: prop-155 demonstrates a properly functional process. > prop-155 reached consensus and was

[sig-policy] Re: APNIC EC Endorses Proposal from APNIC 56

2023-12-13 Thread Luke Thompson via SIG-policy
Hi, This all seems quite disappointing, when it should have been quite positive. SIG-Policy was 'that close' it seems, and I'd like to dig into how such a change is possible. Being candid, I am not adequately versed in the nuances of what makes the EC's last-minute decision something

[sig-policy] Re: APNIC EC Endorses Proposal from APNIC 56

2023-12-13 Thread Christopher Hawker
I too, agree with Aftab, and strongly urge that the EC reconsiders the fees for IPv6 PI space. The idea to this policy was to increase and incentivise the uptake of IPv6. By charging the same costs as other delegations, it effectively renders this entire policy proposal redundant as there is

[sig-policy] Re: APNIC EC Endorses Proposal from APNIC 56

2023-12-12 Thread Anupam Agrawal
I echo Aftab's position. As the endorsement is with a rider which is different from the consensus arrived at OPM/AGM, then as per the APNIC 111 (APNIC Policy Development Process), Section 4, Step 5, EC can refer the proposal back to Policy SIG for discussions. Regards Anupam Agrawal On Wed, Dec

[sig-policy] Re: APNIC EC Endorses Proposal from APNIC 56

2023-12-12 Thread Gaurav Kansal
I seconded the Aftab's opinion. Regards, Gaurav On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 at 05:59, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: > I urge the EC to revisit the decision on the fee waiver. The policy's > intent was to promote the uptake of PI IPv6 by balancing incentivization > with the recovery of costs for services

[sig-policy] Re: APNIC EC Endorses Proposal from APNIC 56

2023-12-12 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
I urge the EC to revisit the decision on the fee waiver. The policy's intent was to promote the uptake of PI IPv6 by balancing incentivization with the recovery of costs for services provided to resource holders. A 12-month fee waiver, unfortunately fails horribly to meet this purpose and