Re: [sig-policy] Prop-127 announcement : Change maximum delegation size of 103/8 IPv4 address, pool to a /23

[Bertrand Cherrier]

Satoru-san,

Thank you very much for the feedback from the Japanese Open Policy Forum 
Steering Team, it’s greatly appreciated !


Best Regards,

Cordialement,
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On 22 Feb 2019, at 12:29, Satoru Tsurumaki wrote:


Dear Colleagues,

I am Satoru Tsurumaki from Japan Open Policy Forum Steering Team.

I would like to share a feedback in our community for prop-127,
based on a meeting we organized on 12th Feb to discuss these 
proposals.


Almost half of participants were oppose the proposal and almost other 
half

ware neutral.
Many opposing comments were expressed with the reasons below:

* I am worried that the change a allocation size and this discussion
will be repeated each time the 103/8 address pool decreases.

* It should be /24 in this time if it will be changed it in the 
future.


* I'd like to know the reason why "/23", not "/24" or other prefix 
size.


* /23 seems too small for a newcomer.

* A Newcomer can choose a transfer as a alternative if the proposal 
not

reach consensus.


Best Regards,

Satoru Tsurumaki
JPOPF-ST

2019年1月18日(金) 15:17 Bertrand Cherrier 
:



Dear SIG members,

The proposal "prop-127-v001: Change maximum delegation size of 103/8
IPv4 address pool to a /23" has been sent to the Policy SIG for 
review.


It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 47 in
Daejeon, South Korea on Wednesday, 27 February 2019.

We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing 
list

before the meeting.

The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
express your views on the proposal:

   - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
   - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so, 
tell

   the community about your situation.
   - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
   - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
   - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
   effective?

Information about this proposal is available at:

http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-127

Regards

Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
--

prop-127-v001: Change maximum delegation size of 103/8 IPv4 address
pool to a /23
--

Proposers: Ching-Heng Ku, Aftab Siddiqui, Yen-Chieh Wang
c...@twnic.tw
1. Problem Statement

This is a proposal to change the maximum size of IPv4 address 
delegations

from the APNIC 103/8 IPv4 address pool [1] to a /23.
2. Objective of policy change

The current final /8 allocation policy[1] requires that the current 
minimum
delegation size for IPv4 is a /24 and each APNIC account holder is 
only

eligible
to receive IPv4 address delegations totalling a maximum /22 from the
APNIC 103/8
IPv4 address pool.

According to the APNIC IPv4 Address Report, 
https://ipv4.potaroo.net/,

remaining
addresses in the APNIC 103/8 pool are 42.8%, 33.3%, 23.4% of /8 in 
the

end of
2016, 2017, and 2018, respectively. The remaining number of APNIC 
103/8

IPv4
address pool for APNIC account holder is less and less. It is 
predicted

that
the 103/8 pool will be exhausted in 2020.

Reducing the maximum IPv4 delegation size from APNIC 103/8 IPv4 
address

pool can
prolong the exhaustion time of the 103/8. Newcomers of APNIC account
holders will
have the benefit in this period of time. New companies can obtain 
some

IPv4 address
space in the APNIC service region without the need to trade for 
address

space and
can make the preparation for the subsequent IPv6 migration.

It is recommended that the number of assigned IPv4 addresses in Final 
/8

be reduced
from a maximum of /22 to /23. It will be estimated to extend the
exhaustion time
for at least three years or more.
3. Situation in other regions

There is no similar policy in place in other RIR regions.
4. Proposed policy solution

It is proposed to modify the 6.1 Minimum and maximum IPv4 delegations 
of

the APNIC
Internet Number Resource Policies[1].

This proposal is to change the maximum size of IPv4 address 
delegations

from the
APNIC 103/8 IPv4 address pool[1] to a /23. /23 is important because 
new

ISPs can
use /24 for internal infrastructure and /24 customer assignments and 
NAT

for IPv6
transition.

Current Policy text

Each APNIC account holder is only eligible to receive IPv4 address
delegations
totalling a maximum /22 from the APNIC 103/8 IPv4 address pool.

New Policy text

Each APNIC account holder without APNIC 103/8 IPv4 address 
delegations

from the
APNIC 103/8 IPv4 address pool is only eligible to receive a maximum 
/23

from the
APNIC 103/8 IPv4 address pool.
5. Advantages / Disadvantages

Advantages:
- This proposal allows a greater 

Re: [sig-policy] IANA Recovered Space

[Guangliang Pan]

Dear Aftab,

I can confirm these are the IPv4 ranges APNIC received from IANA recovered pool 
in 2018.

Kind regards,

Guangliang Pan (Benny)
Registration Services Manager, APNIC
Email: g...@apnic.net
Phone: +61 7 3858 3188



From: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net  
On Behalf Of Aftab Siddiqui
Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2019 12:53 PM
To: mailman_SIG-policy 
Subject: [sig-policy] IANA Recovered Space

Dear APNIC Secretariat,
Can you please confirm if this is what APNIC got from IANA recovered pool in 
2018.

160.238.0.0/24 APNIC 2018-03
192.26.110.0/24 APNIC 2018-03
192.75.137.0/24 APNIC 2018-03
192.135.99.0/24 APNIC 2018-03
192.145.228.0/23 APNIC 2018-03
192.156.144.0/24 APNIC 2018-03
192.156.220.0/24 APNIC 2018-03
192.197.113.0/24 APNIC 2018-09
199.212.57.0/24 APNIC 2018-09
204.52.191.0/24 APNIC 2018-09
192.51.188.0/24 APNIC 2018-09
Regards,

Aftab A. Siddiqui
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