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Re: [sig-policy] Proposal to revise SIG guidelines

2016-09-30 Thread Hiroki Kawabata

Yamanishi-san,

Thanks for your comment and revise proposal. Yes, I can support.

Regards,
Hiroki


Subject: Re: [sig-policy] Proposal to revise SIG guidelines
From: Masato Yamanishi 
Date: Fri Sep 30 2016 04:24:17 GMT+0900


Kawabata-san (and maybe Randy),

So, can you support it if I will revise it as follows?


2. SIG Chair's term of service
 I would like to propose revising SIG Chair's term of service as follows.
 - Elections occur yearly. Chair elections and Co-Chair elections occur in 
alternate years (same as current SIG guideline)
 - If Chair election and Co-Chair election are happen in same year, 
Co-Chair's (or Co-Chairs') term of service should be one year
   as Chair's and Co-Chairs' term of service are staggered
 - If current Chair/Co-Chair resigned or was removed, the succesor's term 
should be remaining term of current Chair/Co-Chair


Any thought?

Regards,
Matt



2016-09-28 15:52 GMT+09:00 Hiroki Kawabata >:


2. SIG Chair's term of service
I would like to propose aligning Chair' term with Co-Chair's term, which
means that Chair and all Co-Chair will serve for same two years.
To keep this alighment, I would like to propose limiting the successor's
term to remaining term of current Chair/Co-Chair if current
Chair/Co-Chair resigned or was removed.


If ALL current Chair/Co-Chair resigne or are removed at the same time
and the another successor who don't know or share the background and
situations of this forum become New Chair/Co-Chair, who do care for them?

At the point of the stable/continuous forum management,
I think that there is no need to revise the part of this guideline.

Regards,
Hiroki


Subject: [sig-policy] Proposal to revise SIG guidelines
From: Adam Gosling >
Date: Mon Sep 05 2016 19:08:46 GMT+0900



Dear SIG members

A proposal to modify the APNIC SIG Guidelines relating to the election
of SIG Chairs and Co-Chairs has been submitted for consideration at
APNIC 42 im Colombo, Sri Lanka.

   https://www.apnic.net/sig-chair-elections/proposed-revision.txt 


If agreed. these changes will affect all APNIC SIGs from APNIC 43 in Ho
Chi Minh City, Vietnam.

Discussion and call for consensus will take place in the Policy SIG.

   https://www.apnic.net/mailinglists 


If successful in the Policy SIG, a consensus call will be made at the
APNIC Member Meeting. There will be no final Comment Period.

To ensure those not travelling to APNIC 42 are able to participate in
the discussion, you are invited to comment on the Policy SIG Mailing
List before the conference.

More background to this proposal is available at:

   https://www.apnic.net/community/participate/sigs/chair-elections 


Regards

Adam


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Revising eligible voters of Chair election and Chair's term

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Proposer:   Masato Yamanishi
   myama...@gmail.com 


1. Problem statement


1. Eligible voters in SIG Chair election
In current SIG guidelines, we have no rule or guideline about eligible
voters in SIG Chair election and we have two issues by the lack of such
rule.

Firstly, we need to have clear guideline whether remote participants
have voting rights for SIG Chair election since current practice is
different in each election.

Secondary, it can be used by fraud, like hijacking the position of Chair
agaist the Community by inviting many persons who never attend the
community discussion.

2. SIG Chair's term of service
While SIG guidelines says "Elections occur yearly. Chair elections and
Co-Chair elections occur in alternate years.", both elections were held
at same meeting in many cases, in particular when a current Co-Chair
stand for the position of Chair. With this current practice having both
elections at same meeting, we are not seeing any significant issues for
long time.

In addition, there is no alternative condition for the successor's term
if current Chair/Co-Chair resigned or was removed though such
alternative condition is necessary to maintain staggered term as
requested by SIG guideline. (a.k.a. the successor's term of service is
same as remaining term of resigned or removed Chair)