Hi All, Why we are so specific (last /8).
As per my view there should be no market transfer other than M&A. Nitin On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:41 PM, 藤崎智宏 <fujis...@syce.net> wrote: > Hi Yu-ya, > > Thank you so much for your comment. > > Mike also mentioned about M&A in his first mail (thank you, Mike), > I'll revise my proposal to consider that. > > Yours Sincerely, > --- > Tomohiro Fujisaki > > > 2016-09-21 9:28 GMT+09:00 Yuya KAWAKAMI <kawak...@mfeed.ad.jp>: > > I'd like to support the purpose of this proposal itself but I'm afraid > that > > anyone who want to obtain more IPv4 addresses seriously will try to do > M&A, > > as Mike mentioned. I wonder if there can be better way to prevent such > kind > > of transfer. > > > > Paul and George, > > Thank you for providing helpful statistics! > > > > Regards, > > Yuya > > > > On 2016/09/21 05:11, Masato Yamanishi wrote: > >> > >> Dear Colleagues, > >> > >> Regardding this prop-116, I have not yet seen any support, opposition, > or > >> comment, except one clarification made by Mike Jager. > >> So, let me ask you to express your views for this proposal on the list > >> more since the meeting is reaching within 2 weeks. > >> > >> Mike> Can you advise your opinion for prop-116 after seeing the number > of > >> tranfers in 103/8 by market and M&A? > >> > >> Regards, > >> Matt > >> > >> > >> 2016-09-08 15:53 GMT+09:00 George Kuo <geo...@apnic.net > >> <mailto:geo...@apnic.net>>: > >> > >> Hi Mike, > >> > >> > >> On 7/09/2016 8:09 AM, Mike Jager wrote: > >> > >> This proposal does not prohibit transfers due to M&A. > >> Transfers of 103/8 > >> > >> block due to M&A continues to be allowed, based on the M&A > >> transfer > >> > >> procedures. > >> > >> > >> I had always assumed that anyone trying to get more than one > >> allocation of 103/8 was creating a separate entity, obtaining APNIC > >> membership, receiving the 103/8 allocation, and then using the M&A > process > >> to transfer it to their original entity. > >> > >> If this is the case, the proposal will be ineffective at > stopping > >> this. > >> > >> Does APNIC have any information on the relative number of > >> transfers within 103/8 that have happened as part of M&As? > >> > >> > >> I have included two tables here for your reference. The numbers for > >> Market transfers are available as part of the public transfer logs. > >> (ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/transfers/ > >> <ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/transfers/>) > >> > >> > >> > >> 1) M&A transfers containing 103/8 space > >> > >> +------+-----------+-----------+- > >> | | Total | Number of | > >> | Year | Transfers | /24s | > >> +------+-----------+-----------+- > >> | 2011 | 3 | 12 | > >> | 2012 | 10 | 46 | > >> | 2013 | 18 | 66 | > >> | 2014 | 126 | 498 | > >> | 2015 | 147 | 573 | > >> | 2016 | 45 | 177 | > >> +------+-----------+------------+- > >> > >> 2) Market transfers containing 103/8 space > >> > >> +------+-----------+-----------+ > >> | | Total | Number of | > >> | Year | Transfers | /24s | > >> +------+-----------+-----------+ > >> | 2011 | 2 | 2 | > >> | 2012 | 21 | 68 | > >> | 2013 | 16 | 61 | > >> | 2014 | 25 | 95 | > >> | 2015 | 67 | 266 | > >> | 2016 | 56 | 206 | > >> +------+-----------+-----------+ > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> George K > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> -Mike > >> * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management > >> policy * > >> _______________________________________________ > >> sig-policy mailing list > >> sig-policy@lists.apnic.net <mailto:sig-policy@lists.apnic.net> > >> https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy > >> <https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy> > >> > >> > >> > >> * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy > >> * > >> _______________________________________________ > >> sig-policy mailing list > >> sig-policy@lists.apnic.net <mailto:sig-policy@lists.apnic.net> > >> https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy > >> <https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy > >> * > >> _______________________________________________ > >> sig-policy mailing list > >> sig-policy@lists.apnic.net > >> https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy > >> > > > > > > -- > > Yuya KAWAKAMI > > JPNAP Network/Software Engineer > > Internet Multifeed Co. > > +81-3-6262-0960 > > kawak...@mfeed.ad.jp > > > > > > * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy > > * > > _______________________________________________ > > sig-policy mailing list > > sig-policy@lists.apnic.net > > https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy > * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy > * > _______________________________________________ > sig-policy mailing list > sig-policy@lists.apnic.net > https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy > -- Thanks and Regards Nitin Sharma Mobile No: 9968693424
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