[silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Giancarlo Livraghi
I have deliberately waited some months before raising this subject because I wanted to be reasonably sure to know what I am talking about. But I am more and more convinced that something quite relevant has happened. I have been using linux for only five years (currently ubuntu 9.10). Quite

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread sankarshan
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Giancarlo Livraghi g...@gandalf.it wrote: [snip] I leave it to technology experts to decide if the big change was in April 2009 with Ubuntu release 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope or in October with 9.10 Karmic Koala (we shall see what will happen with 10.04 Lucid Lynx

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 03:11:39PM +0100, Giancarlo Livraghi wrote: The fact, as I understand it, is that unix has existed for forty years, linux for twenty, but they were for the experts. Now it's easy for everybody. And that is a *big* change. Strangely enough, nobody (including penguin

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Giancarlo Livraghi g...@gandalf.it wrote: The fact, as I understand it, is that unix has existed for forty years, linux for twenty, but they were for the experts. Now it's easy for everybody. And that is a *big* change. Strangely enough, nobody (including

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Pranesh Prakash
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 19:41, Giancarlo Livraghi g...@gandalf.it wrote: The fact, as I understand it, is that unix has existed for forty years, linux for twenty, but they were for the experts. Now it's easy for everybody. And that is a *big* change. Strangely enough, nobody (including penguin

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
sankarshan [03/03/10 20:10 +0530]: There has been a significant improvement upstream in terms of Linux plumbing viz. Hal, udev, Xorg, PulseAudio, Cairo/Harfbuzz, NetworkManager being a few examples which has ensured that the desktop experience keeps getting better. If you start looking at

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: People have been waiting for this for decades, but now we could see it starting to really happening. I don't deny the advances made, I was pretty much happy with Linux usability too until last month when I had to spend 2 whole

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:14:51PM +0100, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: I don't deny the advances made, I was pretty much happy with Linux I wasn't talking about FLOSS, but the equivalent process happening to the atoms, not just bits. usability too until last month when I had to spend 2 whole

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2010-03-03 16:14:51 +0100, che...@gmail.com wrote: I was pretty much happy with Linux usability too until last month when I had to spend 2 whole days getting sound to work on a realtek chipset that shipped on a HP machine that ostensibly supports Linux. Well, that's depressing. I'm

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Pranesh Prakash
On Wednesday 03 March 2010 08:44 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: I don't deny the advances made, I was pretty much happy with Linux usability too until last month when I had to spend 2 whole days getting sound to work on a realtek chipset that shipped on a HP machine that ostensibly supports

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Abhijit Menon-Sen a...@toroid.org wrote: At 2010-03-03 16:14:51 +0100, che...@gmail.com wrote: I was pretty much happy with Linux usability too until last month when I had to spend 2 whole days getting sound to work on a realtek chipset that shipped on a HP

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread ss
On Wednesday 03 Mar 2010 7:41:39 pm Giancarlo Livraghi wrote: Any comments? I have used Linux for a decade now and I am about as far from being a techie as anyone can be. It was Udhay who infected me. Linux has been easy to use for the non techie but informed user for about 6-7 years now. I

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Pranesh Prakash
On Wednesday 03 March 2010 10:03 PM, ss wrote: I have used Linux for a decade now and I am about as far from being a techie as anyone can be. It was Udhay who infected me. Linux has been easy to use for the non techie but informed user for about 6-7 years now. While I can guess that you use

Re: [silk] a big step for linux?

2010-03-03 Thread Heather Madrone
At 6:46 AM -0800 3/3/10, Thaths wrote: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Giancarlo Livraghi g...@gandalf.it wrote: The fact, as I understand it, is that unix has existed for forty years, linux for twenty, but they were for the experts. I've been using Unix for 34 years, and it's always been easy