Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread gabin kattukaran
On 28 January 2012 12:45, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: On 28/01/12 6:26 AM, Charles Haynes wrote: I would argue for the scientific method, or mathematics. It can be argued that neither of the above would have got any traction without the invention of writing, no? Language, which

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:45:40PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote: On 28/01/12 6:26 AM, Charles Haynes wrote: I would argue for the scientific method, or mathematics. It can be argued that neither of the above would have got any traction without the invention of writing, no? It seems that

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Charles Haynes
On Jan 28, 2012 5:32 PM, gabin kattukaran gkattuka...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 January 2012 12:45, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: On 28/01/12 6:26 AM, Charles Haynes wrote: I would argue for the scientific method, or mathematics. It can be argued that neither of the above would

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Charles Haynes
If you ate willing to accept argument by passive voice it can beer argued that writing is not necessary, but only an efficiency improvement. Ate = are Beer = be Thank you autocorrect. Sent from my galaxy note. -- Charles

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Were you hungry when you posted that? :) Subconscious and all that -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: Charles Haynes hay...@edgeplay.org Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:51:22 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To:

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Thejaswi Udupa
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Charles Haynes hay...@edgeplay.org wrote: Ate = are Beer = be Thank you autocorrect. Your autocorrect places food and drink over auxiliary verbs. How very epicurean!

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Deepa Mohan
The only fly in the ointment is that we were born too soon. Most of interesting things will happen when we're past caring. I think this is what everyone, from Cro-Magnon Man onwards, must be feeling when they (ha, gender-unspecific pronoun which the purists will carp at) contemplate the future!

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Thaths
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Charles Haynes hay...@edgeplay.org wrote: On Jan 28, 2012 5:32 PM, gabin kattukaran gkattuka...@gmail.com wrote: Language, which allowed communication even before writing should be considered, no? Isn't language innate, not invented? Don't other species besides

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote A linguist friend of mine says that while many species communicate, it is only homo sapiens that have language. I have a strong intuition (based on many previous claims of such human exceptionalism that proved to be untrue) is that

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 09:05:57PM +0530, Deepa Mohan wrote: Then we can find a mathematician who says that while many species can do basic calculation, it is only Homo sapiens that does arithmetic. Birds can count well enough. You should see what some corvidae can do, now that's primate-level

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread ss
On Friday 27 Jan 2012 11:30:44 pm Udhay Shankar N wrote: A fraught question, eh? :) Man's greatest invention? Agriculture Agriculture led to settlements and leisure. Leisure led to writing and art experiemnation and wheels. shiv

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 09:45:20PM +0530, ss wrote: On Friday 27 Jan 2012 11:30:44 pm Udhay Shankar N wrote: A fraught question, eh? :) Man's greatest invention? Agriculture Agriculture led to settlements and leisure. Leisure led to writing and art experiemnation and wheels.

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Charles Haynes hay...@edgeplay.org wrote: I would argue for the scientific method *curses* I would ignore Silk right now for lack of time, but this claim is an important point to nuance, else it is dangerous. Forgive me, for I am going to telescope a bit

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
Correction: It was not last year, but 2002. In the context of: Human decisions themselves are not always so precise and expensive. Daniel Kahneman's work on decision making that won him the Nobel Prize for Econ. last year touches somewhat on this.

Re: [silk] What is the greatest human invention?

2012-01-28 Thread Heather Madrone
On 1/28/12 3:48 AM January 28, 2012, Charles Haynes wrote: On Jan 28, 2012 5:32 PM, gabin kattukaran gkattuka...@gmail.com mailto:gkattuka...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 January 2012 12:45, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com mailto:ud...@pobox.com wrote: On 28/01/12 6:26 AM, Charles Haynes