Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread ashok _
On Dec 10, 2007 8:39 AM, Gautam John wrote: I'm currently working with a non-profit and as part of our work we run ~400 libraries across Bangalore and many more across the state. We are hopeful, if we find sponsors, of putting a computer in each library both to manage the library and as a tool

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
One fat (comparatively fat at least) box running xp, and multiple thin clients running citrix winframe or similar. Or hell, wyse terminals running X windows. srs

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread Gautam John
Thank you, all, for the suggestions. As it stands, we will install one computer per library and if BSNL get their act together, each one will have an Internet connection. However, the latter is not a given. Amongst the suggestions, a common thread, barring Eugen, is ways and methods to 'secure'

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
Gautam John said the following on 10/12/2007 12:35: their act together, each one will have an Internet connection. However, the latter is not a given. ... suppose, freedom of choice would mean giving the end user the ability to use XP or Ubuntu. Though I'm not sure we have the resources to

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 10-Dec-07, at 2:05 PM, Gautam John wrote: Amongst the suggestions, a common thread, barring Eugen, is ways and methods to 'secure' XP. Surely Ubuntu would be a better bet? I was rather hoping for arguments that I could use in favour of that. But, I suppose, freedom of choice would mean

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread Gautam John
On Dec 10, 2007 2:16 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If internet access is not a given, what are the computers going to be used for? Do you have any apps in mind? Edubuntu comes bundled with several apps - XP does not. Would that itself be a deciding factor? A primary

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
A primary purpose is to maintain a roster of books and track what's being read etc. Assuming internet access, we'd like to collate this data centrally. As an aside, we're currently looking for an open source library management package. The idea is also to load 'educational titles', thus far

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread Gautam John
On Dec 10, 2007 2:17 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the arguments against non-Windows setups? I'd say the choice between Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu would be a fair one. That it isn't Windows. Though I'd be happy if I could find a study that showed that it doesn't

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
Suresh Ramasubramanian said the following on 10/12/2007 12:52: data centrally. As an aside, we're currently looking for an open source library management package. Edubuntu + koha is just fine for that. Yes, but Koha's a pain to setup. I tried it some time ago and gave up. Ram

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread Gautam John
On Dec 10, 2007 2:37 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but Koha's a pain to setup. I tried it some time ago and gave up. What did you end up using?

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread ashok _
On Dec 10, 2007 12:07 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote: data centrally. As an aside, we're currently looking for an open source library management package. Edubuntu + koha is just fine for that. Yes, but Koha's a pain to setup. I tried it some time ago and gave up. Yeah, koha has a

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread Valsa Williams
An organisation called L2C2 in Kolkatta contributes and implements Koha. The lead person's name is Indranil Das Gupta email id : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gautam, do contact him. On Dec 10, 2007 3:11 PM, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 10, 2007 2:37 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram [EMAIL

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
An organisation called L2C2 in Kolkatta contributes and implements Koha. The lead person's name is Indranil Das Gupta email id : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gautam, do contact him. Indranil is a good guy - I know him from his ilug-cal days srs

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-10 Thread Gautam John
On Dec 10, 2007 3:22 PM, Valsa Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An organisation called L2C2 in Kolkatta contributes and implements Koha. The lead person's name is Indranil Das Gupta email id : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gautam, do contact him. Thanks Valsa!

[silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-09 Thread Gautam John
I'm currently working with a non-profit and as part of our work we run ~400 libraries across Bangalore and many more across the state. We are hopeful, if we find sponsors, of putting a computer in each library both to manage the library and as a tool for the kids to work/play with. As it stands,

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Does the list have any thoughts on ideas I can use to put forth a persuasive argument for Edubuntu as the OS of choice [1]? If you do put XP in there stick in as many anti spyware, malware, virus etc tools as you can, harden it some. Public library PCs tend to pick up trojans and such at an

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-09 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 10-Dec-07, at 11:11 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: If you do put XP in there stick in as many anti spyware, malware, virus etc tools as you can, harden it some. Public library PCs tend to pick up trojans and such at an alarming rate In particular, you'll want to use Microsoft

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-09 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Dec 10, 2007 12:42 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10-Dec-07, at 11:11 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: If you do put XP in there stick in as many anti spyware, malware, virus etc tools as you can, harden it some. Public library PCs tend to pick up trojans and

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:09:45AM +0530, Gautam John wrote: On the other hand, I have been using Ubuntu for a while now and am happy with it and the philosophy behind it. However, it's difficult to translate this into a meaningful argument for a project of this scale. As far as I can tell