Re: [silk] aqvavit

2018-08-26 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 7:07 AM gabin kattukaran wrote: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/charlie-paton-seawater-greenhouse-desalination-abu-dhabi-oman-australia-somaliland > > > It doesn't stop there - http://science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6388/518 Another approach:

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2018-05-16 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 7:07 AM gabin kattukaran wrote: > On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 at 11:57, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > > > And some more: > > > https://www.wired.co.uk/article/charlie-paton-seawater-greenhouse-desalination-abu-dhabi-oman-australia-somaliland > >

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2018-05-07 Thread gabin kattukaran
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 at 11:57, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > And some more: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/charlie-paton-seawater-greenhouse-desalination-abu-dhabi-oman-australia-somaliland It doesn't stop there - http://science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6388/518 -gabin --

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2018-03-25 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > > http://www.fastcoexist.com/1682625/turn-your-waterbottle-int >> o-a-brita-with-this-coconut-filter >> > >> > >> > Turn Your Waterbottle Into A Brita With This Coconut Filter >> >> And another: >> >>

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2017-05-12 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > > Another water purification tidbit: > > > > http://www.fastcoexist.com/1682625/turn-your-waterbottle- > into-a-brita-with-this-coconut-filter > > > > > > Turn Your Waterbottle Into A Brita With This Coconut Filter > >

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2016-08-16 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > Another water purification tidbit: >> > >> > http://www.fastcoexist.com/1682625/turn-your-waterbottle- >> into-a-brita-with-this-coconut-filter >> > >> > >> > Turn Your Waterbottle Into A Brita With This Coconut Filter

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2015-08-18 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: Another water purification tidbit: http://www.fastcoexist.com/1682625/turn-your-waterbottle-into-a-brita-with-this-coconut-filter Turn Your Waterbottle Into A Brita With This Coconut Filter And another:

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2014-06-22 Thread Vinay Rao
Have always thought that Reverse Osmosis plants were the Cup of Jamshid, as far as water purification goes. And also small and low power enough that a system in a cargo container can be air dropped, and run off solar cells, in a disaster zone. If Kamen's invention is much better, why aren't we

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2014-06-22 Thread SS
On Sun, 2014-06-22 at 20:18 +0530, Vinay Rao wrote: Have always thought that Reverse Osmosis plants were the Cup of Jamshid, as far as water purification goes. And also small and low power enough that a system in a cargo container can be air dropped, and run off solar cells, in a disaster

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2014-06-21 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: http://www.fastcoexist.com/1682625/turn-your-waterbottle-into-a-brita-with-this-coconut-filter Turn Your Waterbottle Into A Brita With This Coconut Filter And another:

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2014-03-05 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 26-Jul-13 12:16 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: Another water purification tidbit: http://www.fastcoexist.com/1682625/turn-your-waterbottle-into-a-brita-with-this-coconut-filter Turn Your Waterbottle Into A Brita With This Coconut Filter And another:

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2013-07-26 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Another water purification tidbit: http://www.fastcoexist.com/1682625/turn-your-waterbottle-into-a-brita-with-this-coconut-filter Turn Your Waterbottle Into A Brita With This Coconut Filter The Waterbean drops into any bottle and takes some of the impurities out of tap water, so you don’t

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2013-07-19 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: https://www.utexas.edu/news/2013/06/27/chemists-work-to-desalt-the-ocean-for-drinking-water-one-nanoliter-at-a-time/ Chemists Work to Desalt the Ocean for Drinking Water, One Nanoliter at a Time Moe on desalting, this

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2013-07-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 01-Oct-12 5:49 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: http://www.fastcoexist.com/1680613/an-extra-cheap-way-to-get-salt-out-of-water-could-help-make-the-world-less-thirsty An Extra Cheap Way To Get Salt Out Of Water Could Help Make The World Less Thirsty Interesting piece that caught my eye:

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-10-02 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 9:21 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.eurekaforbes.com/aboutus/popup.htm How does this differ from say, http://www.eurekaforbes.com/products/product.php?catid=35prid=209

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-10-01 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 9:21 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.eurekaforbes.com/aboutus/popup.htm How does this differ from say, http://www.eurekaforbes.com/products/product.php?catid=35prid=209 I wonder when the boffins are going to discover that storing water in

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:13:28PM +0100, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:44 PM, thew...@gmail.com wrote: I find bottom posting gauche and insensitive. Its difficult to read, and I really can't understand why its still relevant today. I suppose its one of those

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit Sent: Feb 25, 2012 15:32 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:13:28PM +0100, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:44 PM, thew...@gmail.com wrote: I find bottom posting gauche and insensitive. Its

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:22:11AM +, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: And the day a listserv figures out that x on a list prefers interleaved, y prefers top posted and z doesn't care a shit will be when alan turing will really smile up there in heaven I make an exception for a few people,

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-25 Thread John Sundman
On Feb 25, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: And the day a listserv figures out that x on a list prefers interleaved, y prefers top posted and z doesn't care a shit will be when alan turing will really smile up there in heaven I've habitually top-posted and interleaved for

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Cheeni found that ironic :). And for every such empire builder type who died poor, there's no shortage of his peers who started out poor but died filthy rich. I wish we could say this was about natural justice

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Sent: 24 February 2012 19:57 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Cheeni found that ironic :). And for every such empire builder type who died poor, there's no shortage of his peers who started

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Yes but how much education do you actually need to swing a sword and get whatever rudimentary amount of military tactics you'd need in those days, much before the series of 17th - 19th century wars that built a

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Heather Madrone
On 2/23/12 11:20 AM February 23, 2012, Thaths wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org mailto:eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:28:48AM -0800, Thaths wrote: Off topic. A question about netiquette. So Is it no longer gauche to

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread thewall
=gmail@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit Sent: Feb 23, 2012 8:06 PM On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:28:48AM -0800, Thaths wrote: Off topic. A question about netiquette. So Is it no longer gauche to top-post

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:44 PM, thew...@gmail.com wrote: I find bottom posting gauche and insensitive. Its difficult to read, and I really can't understand why its still relevant today. I suppose its one of those quaint vestigal remnants of an early form of netiquette? Bottom posting makes

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Thaths
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:44 AM, thew...@gmail.com wrote: I find bottom posting gauche and insensitive. Its difficult to read, Please explain why bottom posting is difficult to read. and I really can't understand why its still relevant today. I suppose its one of those quaint vestigal

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 24-Feb-12 8:05 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: you perform what was seen as (and declared by the pope as) your sacred duty to make Christians out of poor benighted pagans, saving them from eternal flames by torturing a guy here, executing a guy there .. This explains why it is so

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit Sent: Feb 25, 2012 09:39 On 24-Feb-12 8:05 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: you perform what was seen as (and declared by the pope as) your sacred duty to make

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Feb 23, 2012 8:49 AM, ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com wrote: Its interesting you mention the ming dynasty in this context. Sometime back i finished reading Charles Mann's 1493 ( http://www.amazon.com/1493-Uncovering-Columbus-Created-ebook/dp/B004G606EY ). there is a really interesting part of

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:50:59 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Feb 23, 2012 8:49 AM, ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com wrote: Its interesting you mention the ming dynasty in this context. Sometime back i finished reading Charles Mann's

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: And all the other little decadences of the mings didn't have a thing to do with this? Decadence rarely on its own brings an empire down, but it often precedes a fall. A new currency, whether it is silver or tea,

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
than an influx of wealth --Original Message-- From: Srini RamaKrishnan Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit Sent: Feb 23, 2012 17:10 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Suresh

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: But by that same logic the brits with all their opium, cotton etc from india would have crashed and burned long back, not after labor era socialism, the loss of their colonies etc They've gone into a slow

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Srini RamaKrishnan [23/02/12 13:18 +0100]: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: But by that same logic the brits with all their opium, cotton etc from india would have crashed and burned long back, not after labor era socialism, the loss of their

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On 2/23/2012 6:38 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: so on and forth till 1857 when an enron like crash took place. No mention of Dalhousie? It was his wars, reforms and attempts to Empirify (Empirificate? Empiricise?) India that sucked the Company dry, turned India into a cost center

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit Sent: Feb 23, 2012 19:43 On 2/23/2012 6:38 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: so on and forth till 1857 when an enron like crash took place. No mention of Dalhousie? It was his wars, reforms and attempts to Empirify (Empirificate? Empiricise

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Thaths
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:47 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.netwrote: But by that same logic the brits with all their opium, cotton etc from india would have crashed and burned long back, not after labor era socialism, the loss of their colonies etc The east india company did go

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:28:48AM -0800, Thaths wrote: Off topic. A question about netiquette. So Is it no longer gauche to top-post? It is gauche, but nobody cares about decorum anymore. We're all neanderthals now. Ooga.

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Thaths
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:28:48AM -0800, Thaths wrote: Off topic. A question about netiquette. So Is it no longer gauche to top-post? It is gauche, but nobody cares about decorum anymore. We're all neanderthals now.

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:20:25AM -0800, Thaths wrote: On the other hand, I've had people go the way of the top-post because text input on a smart phone keyboard is as convenient as typing with two left hands. People voluntarily using braindamaged tools for their own convenience tops plain

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread John Sundman
On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: ... we can always rely on Niall Ferguson to come down firmly on the side of the Empire. I don't think there's a more dependable apologist alive these days. Amen and amen. jrs

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread John Sundman
On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:56 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: The delicious irony is how each of the inhuman conquistadors, Christopher Columbus, Francisco Pizarro, Hernan Cortez all ended up either shipped back to Spain in chains, or put to death or died begging for a living. Dear list: I

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:20:25 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:28:48AM -0800, Thaths wrote: Off topic

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
) -Original Message- From: John Sundman j...@wetmachine.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:29:26 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:56 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Nandkumar Saravade
Absolutely, the nature of any suicide is tragic and perhaps has enough preventable causes. From the NCRB you are indeed right - I had only looked at data till 2009 when I'd looked earlier, and that shows a dipping or flat suicide rate: http://ncrb.nic.in/ADSI2010/table-2.1.pdf It's now

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Deepak Shenoy
The data collection process for reported suicides would be fairly stable and consistent. A suicide is a subset of all unnatural death (UD) cases. These are difficult to manipulate, unlike some other crime statistics, due to the requirement to dispose of a dead body after following the legal

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread ashok _
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com wrote: The data collection process for reported suicides would be fairly stable and consistent. A suicide is a subset of all unnatural death (UD) cases. These are difficult to manipulate, unlike some other crime statistics,

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
ashok _ [22/02/12 13:50 +0300]: if you notice most of the sourthern states have the highest suicide rates : http://maithrikochi.org/india_suicide_statistics.htm#State_Rate mostly farmer suicides in ap / karnataka etc due to unscrupulous lending by banks and microfinance institutions .. which

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com wrote: a) NREGS is not helping and is leading to inflation: FALSE a) NREGS is at

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread ashok _
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: The deferring of debt repayments - it happens anyway, even without loan waivers. Agri loan restructuring is given a wide berth by the RBI. What happens is that these people go and borrow from moneylenders who are not

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
...@gmail.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:55:36 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: The deferring of debt

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread ashok _
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: So wanting to have a toilet in the house instead of crapping on the riverbank, a tv / fan instead of village dappankoothu performances and palm leaf hand fans, electric grinder rather than stone hand grinder is

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:55 PM, ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com wrote: I dont know if i want to even call it western since indian society is actually very materialistic Not materialism as much as a fondness for the past versus the future. Rural India is somewhere between a weak feudality and a

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Feb 2012 16:02:32 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:55 PM, ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com wrote: I dont know if i want to even call it western since indian society is actually very materialistic Not materialism

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Tradition and modernity have always coexisted, even in Latin America I don't quite see why one has to entirely throw the other out Read the book.

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Deepak Shenoy
GDP is useful to point out the scale of money in the economy, and the tiny amount that NREGA/S is adding to the pool. It adds much more than that as the money rotates through the system. That's not the point, the reason it's a big cost is that it's a big part of govt spend, that's all. #

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com wrote: [...] # Mukesh Ambani with a known personal wealth of $22.6 Billion could run the NREGA for 3-4 years on savings - i.e. he has 2-3 times more money than 42 million Indian households put together earn in a year.

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Dave Long
Tradition and modernity have always coexisted, even in Latin America GK Chesterton had (nearly a century ago) an insight on the coexistence* of tradition and modernity: I believe what really happens in history is this: the old man is always wrong; and the young people are always wrong about

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread ashok _
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: UN’s Food and Agriculture Organisation are giving the global food market ‘critical’ status Indian sugar cos. are hoarding sugar http://video.ft.com/v/679555154001/What-s-driving-food-prices- Sadly, the FAO and WFP

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread ashok _
# Mukesh Ambani with a known personal wealth of $22.6 Billion could run the NREGA for 3-4 years on savings - i.e. he has 2-3 times more money than 42 million Indian households put together earn in a year. I'm not sure how this matters, but more power to him, and more power to make people

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Tradition and modernity have always coexisted, even in Latin America I don't quite see why one has to entirely throw the other out Read the book.

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
(blackberry) -Original Message- From: Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:14:37 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit GDP is useful to point out

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit Sent: Feb 22, 2012 23:25 Tradition and modernity have always coexisted, even in Latin America GK Chesterton had (nearly a century ago) an insight on the coexistence* of tradition and modernity: I believe what really happens

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread Deepak Shenoy
The world is going through a food crisis, heck, the Arab spring is being attributed to it, and you blame the NREGA for the high prices? Your single cause inflation theory isn't the truth - it is far more complicated than that. This isn't really going well as an argument, because this single

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-22 Thread ashok _
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: In fact historically speaking money wasn't always the dominant currency - in the times of the Ming Emperor, it was respect. In ancient India, it was one's nobleness and profession. Its interesting you mention the

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-21 Thread ashok _
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: A labor guarantee what else.  More people can be put to work for longer, however inefficiently.  Use machinery and less people do the job in less time Like the old chola kings digging canals to provide employment

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-21 Thread Ingrid
On 21 February 2012 07:23, ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com wrote: I found this really weird in NREGA ... the requirement that no mechanized equipment can be used. What was the motivation behind it ? Limiting NREGA work to back-breaking physical labour at less than minimum wage available

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-21 Thread Deepak Shenoy
I found this really weird in NREGA ... the requirement that no mechanized equipment can be used. What was the motivation behind it ? Limiting NREGA work to back-breaking physical labour at less than minimum wage available for a maximum of 100 days a year to only one member of each

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-21 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Feb 21, 2012 11:29 AM, Ingrid ingrid.srin...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 February 2012 07:23, ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com wrote: I found this really weird in NREGA ... the requirement that no mechanized equipment can be used. What was the motivation behind it ? Limiting NREGA work to

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
- From: Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:01:13 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Feb 21, 2012 11:29 AM, Ingrid ingrid.srin...@gmail.com wrote

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2012-02-21 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Limiting NREGA work to back-breaking physical labour at less than minimum wage available for a maximum of 100 days a year to only one member of each household ensures that only the most desperately poor sign up for it.

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-21 Thread Charles Haynes
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: I was in Meghalaya,India visiting the living bridges characterised by a deep valleys and ridges falling off into the Bangladesh plains. The villages of Cherrapunjee and Mawsynram are at the top of these hills and hold

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-21 Thread Deepak Shenoy
a) NREGS is not helping and is leading to inflation: FALSE a) NREGS is at the outer end a spend of $2.7 billion annually (assuming everyone was paid

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-20 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com wrote: Technically everyone's manipulating currency. China's done it for years, India has been doing it until Subbarao decided in 2010 that they won't intervene, a strategy that lasted exactly one year: Last December saw the

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-20 Thread ashok _
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:50 PM, ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Closer to home (for most in this list that is), Manmohan Singh and

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
etc rhetoric .. -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:35:44 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Mon, Feb

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-20 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.netwrote: Naïve and facile generalizations are just what characterize the ron paul-ish faux libertarianism, general hatred of big money, big government etc rhetoric .. Woah, again I ask, what libertarianism are you going

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-20 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:35 PM, ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com wrote: yeah i think cheney was the CEO of halliburton...and i remember there was a case by the nigerian govt against halliburton for the period of his tenure of his CEO. MMS and montek were consultants and bureaucrats at the world

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
-- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:04:16 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] aqvavit On Mon, Feb 20, 2012

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-20 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Financial reforms versus gravy train subsidy? Mismanage and then sell bonds, raise rates on freight etc? I assume you are asking for examples where the government has backed big business policies and found

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-20 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: BT Brinjal was stopped on health and safety grounds In all of this I would be remiss if I did not call out the excellent balancing act done by Jairam Ramesh [0,1,2], but he was kicked upstairs because he was being too

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-20 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Janathi Natarajan Jayanthi Natarajan of course.

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-19 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM, ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 6:44 AM, John Sundman j...@wetmachine.com wrote: The most glaring recent example of this philosophy in action was the Transitional Government Authority (or whatever it was called) put in place in

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-19 Thread ashok _
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Closer to home (for most in this list that is), Manmohan Singh and Montek Singh Ahluwalia both receive pensions from the World Bank. I have read this stated as a worrying thing before, but why is this problematic ? If

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-19 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:50 PM, ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Closer to home (for most in this list that is), Manmohan Singh and Montek Singh Ahluwalia both receive pensions from the World Bank. I have read

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
ashok _ [19/02/12 23:50 +0300]: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Closer to home (for most in this list that is), Manmohan Singh and Montek Singh Ahluwalia both receive pensions from the World Bank. I have read this stated as a worrying thing before,

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-19 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: A very good question that gets lost in all the libertarian rhetoric Where are you getting the libertarian reference from?

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-19 Thread Deepak Shenoy
These days you have QE1 2 and rumors of an impending QE3. China may have a trillion dollars worth of debt, but the US would rather manipulate its currency to make it worthless rather than pay the debt. Does the World Bank intend to step in to play referee when the US performs currency

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-18 Thread ashok _
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 6:44 AM, John Sundman j...@wetmachine.com wrote: The most glaring recent example of this philosophy in action was the Transitional Government Authority (or whatever it was called) put in place in Iraq by the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld cabal right after the 2003 invasion and

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-18 Thread ashok _
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas Pogge makes a very good case for the ethical and moral burden and undeniable culpability of the rich in keeping the poor poor, in his GRD paper from 2001:

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-18 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 10:29 PM, ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com wrote: i think its impossible for the population and nations at large to empathise and introspect on morality.

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-17 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:51 PM, ashok _ listmans...@gmail.com wrote: Someone should do a cost comparison of this lifestraw vs chlorinating water (which is what i have seen working , and what I do personally if i have to drink filthy water ) -- i think its far cheaper to chlorinate water and

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-17 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:33 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: The UN is sitting on very solid proposals worth about a couple of Speaking of which the UN is currently engaged in a pleasant sounding sham that's sucking a lot of valuable funds: http://www.greeningtheblue.org/ And,

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-17 Thread John Sundman
I agree with all of this. A few comments within. jrs On Feb 17, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: If one is serious about eliminating global poverty one can begin to implement the numerous recommendations of the countless global poverty alleviation conferences which have seen

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2012-02-06 Thread ashok _
Another update (not recent) on the misconceived Life Straw : http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/thirty_million_dollars_a_little_bit_of_carbon_and_a_lot_of_hot_air Verstergaard Frandsen, maker of fine mosquito nets and the mostly useless LifeStraw Personal, has announced plans to give away a

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2011-11-07 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/18/lifestraw-purifies-water-instantly-for-under-2-a-year/ LifeStraw purifies water instantly for under $2 a year An update: https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/27/health/27straw.html

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2011-11-07 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 12:00:27PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote: Another interesting new development: http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/2/2533589/philips-instanttrust-instant-water-purification Presumably water passes through a narrow orifice illuminated by an UV LED. -- Eugen* Leitl a

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2011-10-28 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Bringing together two of my interests - water purification and fragrance. :) Udhay http://www.basenotes.net/content/904-New-scent-to-help-provide-clean-drinking-water-Cali-Blue New scent to help provide clean drinking water - Cali Blue Grant Osborne Published on 21st October 2011 11:04 AM

Re: [silk] aqvavit

2011-10-12 Thread ashok _
They have a good marketing story -- i guess they will package it as a different product and sell it to tourists travelling to 3rd world countries after flogging it in a TED conference of some sort. The problem with this lifestraw story is like that of any of the other bazillion feel-good 'life

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