Re: CSHIV success with CS? Ionic or Non ionic for this cause?

2012-11-29 Thread André Juthe
Hi, Could one not use liposomal encapsulated CS? That would be much more comfortable that taken it rectally. In that case it could be ionic silver and would still reach the cells several times better (at least if it works as with vitamin c) than any other way of taking it. Regards, André

Re: CSHIV success with CS? Ionic or Non ionic for this cause?

2012-11-29 Thread mgperrault
There is some indication that liposomes are not absorbed intact. They are absorbed by mucosal cells in the small intestine and broken down by the reticular cells, the fatty acids possibly resynthesized and the liposome content passed into the lymphatic vessels and transported to the thoracic

Re: CShelp

2012-11-29 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I agree Jaxi, I have a Silver Puppy for years now and is so easy to use‹and versatile, and has produced consistently good EIS and never let me down. It was very reasonable in price and the rods etc., are all easily available. Ode is also very approachable and really good about giving value for

Re: CSFDA Closures

2012-11-29 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I don¹t want to get into this debate as I am in the UK but I did note that those in power (like the President etc.,) only eat organic foods. Wonder why? dee From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:02:12 -0800

Re: CSHIV success with CS? Ionic or Non ionic for this cause?

2012-11-29 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I had understood that liposomes were absorbed through the wall of the stomach into the bloodstream and then to the liver. Is this not true then? I make liposomal Vit C and am really interested. dee There is some indication that liposomes are not absorbed intact. They are absorbed by

Re: CSHIV success with CS? Ionic or Non ionic for this cause?

2012-11-29 Thread André Juthe
Ok, what I heard is mostly about other liposomal products (vitamin-c, curcummin etc) and in those cases a liposomal delivery system is supposed to be six times even better than IV(!) since they are taken directly into the cell. But they are not ionic products of course. I have found only one study

Re: CSHIV success with CS? Ionic or Non ionic for this cause?

2012-11-29 Thread André Juthe
This is exactly what I have heard as well, but this concerns liposomal vit c. 2012/11/29 Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org: I had understood that liposomes were absorbed through the wall of the stomach into the bloodstream and then to the liver. Is this not true then? I make liposomal Vit

Re: CSFDA Closures

2012-11-29 Thread sol
Jane: ROTFLMAO! Too right! sol Jane MacRoss wrote: America is not alone - that's my son . and most other people under 42 / wondering why having driven over 80 km in 38'C heat finding a car park, finding his hospital ward, taking him clean clothes, his laptop, his heavy filing bag,

Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM

2012-11-29 Thread sol
V wrote: I have been intensely interested in this conversation because lately at my college there are people all around me succumbing to bad chest colds and some with more flu like symptoms. We are close to final exams so no one stays home. There seems to be a lot of bad stuff in at least

Re: CShelp

2012-11-29 Thread sol
MaryAnn Helland wrote: PT -- the correct name of the unit is Colloid Master. It is produced by the company Synergenesis. I think they're located in Minnesota. Their website is www.wishgranted.com http://www.wishgranted.com. I also have a Colloid Master. It has performed flawlessly for me

Re: CSHIV success with CS? Ionic or Non ionic for this cause?

2012-11-29 Thread sol
I'm suspicious of encapsulation with CS/EIS, because of the known issues with mild silver proteins which are encapsulated. The encapsulation material (in the case of MSP can be gelatin, etc) blocks the silver from contacting pathogens. sol André Juthe wrote: Could one not use liposomal

Re: CSNebulizing CS with MSM

2012-11-29 Thread Marshall
EIS is electrolytically isolated silver. It is made by passing current between two silver electrodes in distilled water. It is what this newsgroup is about. It will normally contain about 10% or so colloidal silver and 90% or so ionic silver. Almost all commercially available stuff labeled

Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM

2012-11-29 Thread Marshall
Were you unable to help him with nebulized EIS? Marshall On 11/29/2012 9:33 AM, sol wrote: V wrote: I have been intensely interested in this conversation because lately at my college there are people all around me succumbing to bad chest colds and some with more flu like symptoms. We are

Re: CSSpecial CS Silvercillin patent (*99% silver particles) - Possible to produce it at home?

2012-11-29 Thread Marshall
Add a pinch of ascorbic acid. Marshall On 11/28/2012 8:36 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: How does one reduce ionic silver to colloidal silver? Thanks. PT *From:* James McDonald kscma...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM

2012-11-29 Thread sol
Marshall wrote: Were you unable to help him with nebulized EIS? No, he lives in Texas, and to be honest he wouldn't probably have done it anyway. He's very resistant to my ideas re CS. He's 42 and I haven't been able to tell him anything since he was about 10. He is now doing very well though,

Re: CShelp

2012-11-29 Thread Tel Tofflemire
It has been so long ago that I bought my Silver maker from www.Wishgranted.com I forgot about that name.  Sorry, it's the same unit I tried to tell you about, U won't be sorry!   Tel Tofflemire From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To:

Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?

2012-11-29 Thread mgperrault
This subject is very interesting. I read that the stomach does not absorb very well, only some water and alcohol. What I wrote about the absorption, digestion and destruction of liposomes in the small intestine comes from a few published scientific papers. There is research on this because

Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?

2012-11-29 Thread André Juthe
Do you have any reference for that? I never heard of that, I would like to read more about it. /AJ 2012/11/29 mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com: Any liposomes that get into the blood stream are attacked by macrophages. One can in fact overburden your immune system this way. So they have devised

Re: CSconcentrated CS

2012-11-29 Thread Marshall
They provide insufficient information. Many products that are actually MSP are mislabeled as colloidal silver. The FDA allows this because they do not work well and help make people think that real colloidal silver is ineffective. It is possible to increase the concentration of EIS if after

Re: CSSpecial CS Silvercillin patent (*99% silver particles) - Partially answered.

2012-11-29 Thread Alex Flex
Hello all, Thanks for the answers, it seems that most of the answers where addressing why I should prefer IONs instead of PARTICLES.. to respond to those who suggested that can somebody please explain me why Frank Key (owner of MesoSilver and CS LAB) prefer particle based colloidal silver

Re: CSSpecial CS Silvercillin patent (*99% silver particles) - Partially answered.

2012-11-29 Thread Marshall
On 11/29/2012 4:22 PM, Alex Flex wrote: Hello all, Thanks for the answers, it seems that most of the answers where addressing why I should prefer IONs instead of PARTICLES.. to respond to those who suggested that can somebody please explain me why Frank Key (owner of MesoSilver and CS LAB)

Re: CSconcentrated CS

2012-11-29 Thread Marshall
Most silver protein or MSP is about 1/20 to 1/50 as effective as real EIS. That is 500 ppm of MSP is approximately equivalent to the same amount of properly made 10 to 25 ppm CS. In effect you are increasing your silver load, and cost with no additional benefit. Marshall On 11/29/2012 4:28

Re: CSSpecial CS Silvercillin patent (*99% silver particles) - Possible to produce it at home?

2012-11-29 Thread PT Ferrance
Thanks... but it now seems that it is the least preferred form of CS/EIS PT From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, November 29, 2012 10:33:51 AM Subject: Re: CSSpecial CS Silvercillin patent (*99% silver particles) -

RE: CSmagnetic stirrer

2012-11-29 Thread Neville Munn
That's good you put that up Smitty, inspired me to explain how I make them supplementary to your link g. If I knew how to put a photo of mine on here I would, but I got this from ideas in the public domain, and there's pictures available as well if one searches DIY mag stirrers. I use kids

Re: CSmagnetic stirrer

2012-11-29 Thread Smitty
How important is a mag stirrer ? I make CS with Maple leaf coins and 4 - 9v batteries. I may make one using your design if you think the brew is better with the stirrer. On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote: That's good you put that up Smitty, inspired me

RE: CSmagnetic stirrer

2012-11-29 Thread Neville Munn
Whoa, don't know about being 'better' Smitty, just thought I'd make one when I first got into this EIS making, and it was copied from public domain, the jewellery box was my idea that's all, a draw to store the stir bar g. How important is it? If brewing larger volumes it keeps everything

Re: CSSpecial CS Silvercillin patent (*99% silver particles) - Partially answered.

2012-11-29 Thread sol
Alex Flex wrote: Hello all, Thanks for the answers, it seems that most of the answers where addressing why I should prefer IONs instead of PARTICLES.. to respond to those who suggested that can somebody please explain me why Frank Key (owner of MesoSilver and CS LAB) prefer particle based

Re: CSconcentrated CS

2012-11-29 Thread sol
Marshall wrote: Most silver protein or MSP is about 1/20 to 1/50 as effective as real EIS. That is 500 ppm of MSP is approximately equivalent to the same amount of properly made 10 to 25 ppm CS. In effect you are increasing your silver load, and cost with no additional benefit. And with a

Re: CSmagnetic stirrer

2012-11-29 Thread Smitty
I brew a qt. using a pyrex measuring pitcher-type. Works for me. I made a CS maker for my 2 sons and one for my grandaughter's piano teacher. Also one for my brother in Indiana. I'm in Hawaii. They all swear by CS guzzle it when they feel something coming on with their bodies. Nice chatting with