Hi, Ode, You are right about the h2o2. I made the mistake of putting h2o2 in the reaction vessel to clarify a batch of EIS. The following batch produced metallic silver films on the surface. Since then, I put the EIS into a separate vessel before adding h2o2.
Also - oops! - I addressed the previous message to Sol instead of Stuff. Sorry about that. Best regards, Matthew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ode Coyote" <odecoy...@alltel.net> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 8:51 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Tetrasil and Imusil® ( OT magnetic stirring question) > At 12:29 PM 12/11/2004 -0800, you wrote: > > > >When I used mag stirer, I just got big flakes. Any idea why? > > Big flakes of what? Silvery? Whitish? > > Any H2O2 in the starting water? A trace of that will make nice shiny > silver snow flakes. > > Mag stir doesn't 'stop' the formation of the grey fuzzies [plateout waste] > on an electrode especially at the higher PPMs...though the slow stir rate > does prevent it from getting really thick like a Santa beard. If that gets > thick enough, it'll fall off in flakes [whitish] > Just let em settle out or keep the electrodes cleaner. > > If you're using a standard lab stirrer, they generally turn WAY too fast. > 10 to 40 RPM is about right. > > > > Ode > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ode Coyote" <odecoy...@alltel.net> > >To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > >Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 5:08 AM > >Subject: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Tetrasil and Imusil®( OT magnetic stirring > >question) > > > > > >> The mag stirrer tends to make more of an ionic brew which can be run > >higher > >> up in conductivity and remain crystal clear and colorless than the thermal > >> stir and any previous mechanical system I've used. > >> I don't know that it's the magnets that do that or if it's just very > >slow, > >> complete but forceful stirring...good and hard water currents, but not too > >> fast. > >> I have run thermal stirred batches with 'finger snipper' 40+ pound pull > >> magnets [so strong you can't pull them apart] taped to the container and > >> saw zero difference or effect. > >> > >> At around 20 uS, [10-15 PPM when all is said and done] I don't see any > >> difference that stands out in the EIS itself attributable to stir method > >> difference, fresh or stabilized. > >> Either method, the fresh stuff is way different than the stored stuff > >> around/over 24 hrs old and gives that perception of 'boost' and verifiable > >> reaction to H2O2. > >> > >> I can't say that one way is 'better' than another..just different. > >> > >> The magnetic stir system is still pretty new to me and I've been using > >> thermal updraft stirring personally for several years...long before > >> 'selling' it. > >> > >> Manipulating thermal quirks can be useful to vary qualities such as ion > >to > >> particle ratios. I tend to like a good strong TE. > >> I'm coming to really like the magnetic a lot. > >> > >> Humm, wonder what a pin prick of H2O2 does in that fresh stuff. > >> > >> Ode > >> > > >> > > >> > Do you notice any differences in the quality of the cs or health > >benefits > >> as a result of magnetic stirring? > >> > > >> >Tanks > >> >Steve > > > > > > > >-- > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.8 - Release Date: 12/8/2004 > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.8 - Release Date: 12/8/2004 >
