Granted, the experiment by itself may be statistically insignificant, but that
does not mean the experiment itself is insignificant. That one experiment can
itself give rise to a reasonable belief or suspicion (and I stress the word,
reasonable). And let's remember that there is no such thing as a perfect
experiment or series of experiments that have all the bases covered to every
one's satisfaction.

Not to accuse any member of this list, but does anyone remember the movie
"Longitude"? This guy designed a clock that was accurate enough to win an award,
but the British Admiralty said the clock had insufficient tests. When the
designer met those tests, the Admiralty added a few more criteria, and so on.
Finally, the British parliament had to overrule its own Admiralty and award the
designer his prize before he died. Let's honour interesting and suggestive data,
however scant it may be. That way we stay on the leading edge.
Leo
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S & J Young wrote:

> Marshall said it well, and is what I had in mind but didn't communicate it
> very well.  The Borderlands article is interesting, but is only one data
> point.  What is needed are more carefully conducted experiments, as Marshall
> indicates, to determine that the phenomena is repeatable, and isolating the
> variation to just one cause such as lunar position.  Until that is done, the
> one experiment is statistically insignificant.
>
> Has anyone generated say 100 batches of CS all at once (same starting and
> ending time), with as close to the same conditions as possible in a
> laboratory, and determined the statistical variance of the batches with each
> other?  If we can't generate nearly identical batches given the nearly
> identical conditions (same H2O, volume, electrode purity and wetted area,
> current, temperature, ambient atmosphere, brew time, electromagnetic and
> accoustic environment, (same mental attitude about each batch being
> brewed???), etc.), then we must first understand why there is so
> much variation before we can start introducing other variables such as moon
> gravity or whatever.  One would hope and expect that such an uncomplicated
> procedure (e.g. simple electrolysis) could produce highly repeatable
> results.  Then one could feel confident in doing experiments to determine
> what outside influences may affect properties of the "brew".
>
> Sadly, the large scale laboratory tests with CS likely will never be done
> because those who could invest the substantial funds required would not be
> able to get a return from their expenditure.  We may not now know how to
> make the "best" CS or ionic silver or mix of both yet, and we may never know
> this, but at least we can feel confident that what we do make from pure
> water and silver only has a high probability of improving our quality of
> life.  It is reassuring to see the anecdotal evidence of benefits keep
> piling up from more and more people, and none of us are turning blue-gray!
> --Steve
>
> ----- Original Message ----- >
> > See www.borderlands.com/archives/arch/lunar.htm
> >
> ><SNIP>
> > However although there does seem to be evidence that the moon does have an
> > effect if we can believe that these experiments were really run, and
> resulted
> > in these reported results, additional testing needs to be done to confirm
> it.
> >
> > First it needs to be duplicated by others, and it needs to be done with
> double
> > blind testing.  It really needs to be done again by someone who doesn't
> believe
> > in the phenomena, since it is just as likely that the expectations of the
> > experimenter caused the difference as the planets.
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> >
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