RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-11-01 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Weird. So 0.9=0.5 James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS/PWT meters That is normally called 3 1/2 digits, not 4. Marshall Trem wrote: Hi

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-11-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
, Holmes wrote: Weird. So 0.9=0.5 James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS/PWT meters That is normally called 3 1/2 digits, not 4. Marshall

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-11-01 Thread Ode Coyote
The forth digit is behind the decimal point. Hanna doesn't advertise or mention that it will read xxx.x [four digits] and only shows or mentions readings within its specified range. I was , uh, mistaken about the actual readout. [eyes, assumptions and paranoia working together as a team]

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Trem
a dead horse to me. Trem - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters I'm willing, out of curiosity, to 'determine some idea' of how far off reality is from various stated

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Ode Coyote
I'm willing, out of curiosity, to 'determine some idea' of how far off reality is from various stated views of it. [something within a range in an infinite scale] I've got an odd feeling that no one can say anything that's true about anything. [Nothing that is, except, perhaps, that statement.]

CSChit chat RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Ode Coyote
Yup The real stuff with flash floods, downed trees and everthang. But, the suns shining today! [only]...then, freeezing rain! O'boy! All this after a mere 4 months of 99+deg muggy dry and cracked lake beds. laundry day! ken At 11:01 AM 10/29/02 -0800, you wrote: My Gawd! Rain? real

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters [survey?]

2002-10-31 Thread Ode Coyote
OK, on the list Got addresses? Ken At 05:30 PM 10/29/02 -0800, you wrote: Ken: I'd love to see Stephen @ Natural Immunogenics do an analysis and a antibacterial comparison on your best batch... I'd also like to see the characterization done by Frances Key et al w/ silvercolloids.com Both

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Barnbert
Whatever the verbiage-- my PWT does not function, period. Probably the best solution is to replace it and ashcan the present one. But where do I order a PWT? Bob

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Trem
Hi Bob, See http://silvergen.com/ppm.htm Trem - Original Message - From: barnb...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:19 PM Subject: Re: CSTDS/PWT meters Whatever the verbiage-- my PWT does not function, period. Probably the best

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread J J
Ode Coyote says: snip... The PWT actually has a 4 digit display and pegs out at 999.x uS just before it shows a 1 in the far left saying it can't read that high or any higher. ...snip Ken: You actually have a Hanna PWT with a 4 digit display? The attached PWT.JPG from the Hanna website

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread J J
Attachment of PWT.jpg this time. _ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband.  Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp attachment: pwt.jpg

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Trem
Hi Jimmy Joe, The PWT does go higher than 2 places plus the decimal. It reads up 199.9. See my post to Ken this morning. Trem - Original Message - From: J J mennj...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Ode

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Ode Coyote
get them properly adjusted. This seems like beating a dead horse to me. Trem - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters I'm willing, out of curiosity, to 'determine

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Marshall Dudley
: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Ode Coyote says: snip... The PWT actually has a 4 digit display and pegs out at 999.x uS just before it shows a 1 in the far left saying it can't read that high or any higher. ...snip Ken: You actually have

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-30 Thread Terry Dickinson
- Original Message - From: Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:33 PM Subject: Re: CSTDS/PWT meters On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:31:25 -5, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Specs for my Hanna TDS-1: Range: 0 to 999 ppm Resolution: 1

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-29 Thread Ivan Anderson
of your Hanna meter. in error Ivan. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2002 6:59 a.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Sorry Ivan Strange mood and recent encounters with lawyer mentalities in consumer

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters [survey?]

2002-10-29 Thread Ode Coyote
: Tuesday, 29 October 2002 6:59 a.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Sorry Ivan Strange mood and recent encounters with lawyer mentalities in consumer industry. [Ripped off by ommissive merchandising] It's not me fighting you, it's commentary about how truth can be more

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-29 Thread Roy Thompson
I have a question... I had one of my batches of CS do something really odd. I would like to send a picture so everybody could see it and tell me if anyone ever had this happen. Is it okay to send a picture here? And do I just attach the picture to my message? Not sure on the rules and hows of

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-29 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
My Gawd! Rain? real rain?? I live on the north coast in an area that normally scores 125+inches and so far we've had one light mist; fogged my glasses, had to slow down. Sounds like a case of Coyote Blues: My Prescription is stoke the fire and get book of same title by Chris Moore - works for

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-29 Thread Dean Miller
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:31:25 -5, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Specs for my Hanna TDS-1: Range: 0 to 999 ppm Resolution: 1 ppm Accuracy: +/- 10 ppm Typical EMC Deviation: +/- 1% of Full Scale If I interpret this right, my TDS meter should read in steps of 1 ppm, with no decimal point

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters [survey?]

2002-10-29 Thread SilverMedicine.org
Ken: I'd love to see Stephen @ Natural Immunogenics do an analysis and a antibacterial comparison on your best batch... I'd also like to see the characterization done by Frances Key et al w/ silvercolloids.com Both at least have extensive experience working with colloidal silver. Best Regards,

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-28 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
Hey, stop barking! RTFM; the fact that you can find a meter that reads over its nominal full scale - what it says on the 'range' dial that it is competent to read at that position of the 'range' switch - has nothing to do with lawyers or CYA. The 'range' is not the interval of values (call

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-28 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Morning Ken, Last shot at making the point, I promise. Great Message that virtually summed up the history of the world. For nearly every example you gave, I could think of a real world example. Some are very interesting. Maybe later I will have time to spin the yarn on some of

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-28 Thread Ode Coyote
. For the rest of your message I have no answer... it would be easier to just duke it out... your place or mine? Ivan -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 4:52 a.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Hanna's spec

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-27 Thread Ode Coyote
No, not really. They are good for what they're good for. [quantifying repeatablity] They're just not good to fuel an arguement. :-) But they could be cheaper. Ken At 05:36 PM 10/26/02 -0700, you wrote: Sounds like I just wasted $50 on a PWT meter. Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net>

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-27 Thread Ivan Anderson
is the most accurate. For the rest of your message I have no answer... it would be easier to just duke it out... your place or mine? Ivan -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 4:52 a.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-27 Thread Ode Coyote
>Hanna's spec reporting is industry standard. >Full scale and range are two different things. The range is a >description of an interval of numbers in which the unit will perform >within spec. Full scale (reading) is largest number within the range. You just said that range and scale are

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-26 Thread Ode Coyote
Both TDS meters and the PWT do the same thing the same way. Unless colloidal particles are actually touching, or perhaps very very close together, they won't register at all with either meter. The best you can do is guesstimate the particulate content with a laser pointer and add a fudge

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-26 Thread Paul Ladendorf
Sounds like I just wasted $50 on a PWT meter. Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net wrote: Both TDS meters and the PWT do the same thing the same way. Unless colloidal particles are actually touching, or perhaps very very close together, they won't register at all with either meter. The best you

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
-Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2002 3:55 a.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Both TDS meters and the PWT do the same thing the same way. Unless colloidal particles are actually touching

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-25 Thread Paul Ladendorf
My understanding is that the TDS (total DISSOLVED solids) will not measure the colloidal particles as they are suspended not DISSOLVED but will measure the ion content. The PWT measures conductivity which would include colloids and ions. Regards, Paul kaselo...@aol.com wrote:please explain to

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-25 Thread Ivan Anderson
Paul has led you astray a bit in his answer :-) Both the TDS (total dissolved solids) meter and the PWT (pure water tester) are conductivity meters. The difference is in the scale and calibration. A TDS meter is calibrated to convert the conductivity reading (micro-Siemens uS) to reflect the

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-25 Thread Ivan Anderson
...@win.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2002 3:05 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Paul has led you astray a bit in his answer :-) Both the TDS (total dissolved solids) meter and the PWT (pure water tester) are conductivity meters. The difference is in the scale