From: brf brfifi...@rogers.com
Date: 22 February 2010 9:44:54 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSConfusion Making CS
Looks like I'm going to have to re-evaluate what I'm doing.
Thanks for your thoughts link. I'll try to digest the information.
By the way, the distilled water when
This is a brilliant site--thanks! dee
On 21 Feb 2010, at 20:33, Renee wrote:
Here's a link to his very first daily post page. At the bottom then you can
click on 'previous posts' to continue on up to today. Or, to look around his
web site just go to the top of the page and click on one
It doesn't say what sort of clay and *how* you wash your hair with it! Is it
bentonite, do you think? dee
On 21 Feb 2010, at 20:56, scl...@cox.net wrote:
I'm posting a link to curezone for a hair growth recipe that seemed to work
for my wife.
You have to be VERY careful with copper supplementation because it it only
needed in trace amounts. It can kill if too much is ingested. dee
On 21 Feb 2010, at 23:04, Leslie wrote:
No, not together; they have the copper sticks as well as the Silver ones and
a voltage meter which I don't
SSKI is the one that Mercola advocates over Lugols so I would trust that. I
use Nascent Iodine which is supposed to be more bioavailable than Lugols too,
but I don't know how true that is, or whether its hype. It definitely
dissolves better though i.e you can't see the colour when its dropped
Hi Dee,
Personally, Mercola is full of it. Your/our body needs both. Go read
iodine4health.com to get pros and cons. After you read all of that, if
you still believe him, so be it:)
Trusting something isn't the same as knowing something, imho.
Regards,
Craig
SSKI is the one that
Here we go with the repetitious, inane, 3rd grade name-calling, again. It's
no wonder the 'smart people' no longer have anything to say on silverlist -
the wonderful we-we community. Steve Barwick's little finger knows about
Colloidal Silver Water than you'll ever know, David. And yeah, Steve
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
My mail from CS list seems to have stoped.
Please put me back on mail list.
robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
I don't happen to agree with you about Mercola at all, but concede that not
everyone can know *everything* about *everything! I have looked at this site
before but I read a couple of the articles and they mention SSKI as if it is
something different to iodine. I thought it *was* iodine.
I got a strange email from Medwith J Robert with something about caveats, which
started doing a 'loading' thingy so I deleted it. Has anyone else had this?
dee
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In a message dated 2/22/2010 7:25:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
d...@deetroy.org writes:
I got a strange email from Medwith J Robert with something about caveats,
which started doing a 'loading' thingy so I deleted it. Has anyone else
had this? dee
--
I did get the message but no
Despite not addressing a few things like repeatable electrode
mounting, edge/corner ion discharge concentration and an uncalibrated PPM
dial, the 777 is generally rated among the top 3 for both function and value.
My [ biased ] preference for something comparable, but cheaper and does
meters don't work at all with colloidal copper.
ode
At 05:04 PM 2/21/2010 -0600, you wrote:
No, not together; they have the copper sticks as well as the Silver ones
and a voltage meter which I don't know why we need one of those. Lee
- Original Message -
From:
Really high voltages gets those ions away from the electrodes really fast.
That's how most of the commercially sold EIS is made as *time is
money*..but that much voltage can shorten your time on Earth even faster.
No generator maker in his right mind would sell one to a consumer.
Ode
At
Good reference
http://www.health-care-tips.org/herbal-medicines/
ode
At 10:26 AM 2/21/2010 -0600, you wrote:

Cool, I love poke root. Much undervalued and even worse, surrounded by
fear from people who never used it.
doug
- Original Message -
From:
Yes..but probably not with the newer regulated 24 volt power supplies.
You need at least 27-28 volts at the electrodes which an unregulated 100+
milliamp 24 volt supply will deliver @ the Pups current load..the Pup is
good to 36 volts in AC or DC.
Unregulated power supplies are becoming
Hi There David - in my view he is not an idiot, he is in the pay of
Big Pharma consciously, physically or subconsciously and life goes on
Cheers, have a great and interesting day
Sandee
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HOLY COW!!
Laser Therapy Pen Specifications:
Wavelength: 635nm
Output Power: 5mw
Price $199 plus shipping.
for a standard red laser pen that even takes expensive Lithium batteries.
How about $15 and free shipping using 2 AAAs or even less in some places
with several beam splitter
In the spirit of ballparks...1 to 1 isn't that far off from 1.2 to 1
Trems SG7 samples came out as 98.6% Ionic
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr21/cpr_21.html
13.8 uS/cm =14.6 ppm [Total silver content] [.95uS to 1 PPM ]
14.4 ppm ionic content.
Since there can be many
So what is the best way of attempting to measure the silver you're producing
then? Or is there?
From: Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 3:43:32 AM
Subject: CSConfusion Making CS
From: brf
Something about this rang a bell and I looked in my utilities folder and there
is a keychain access facility and this Medwith J Robert thing has a Certificate
in there! I'm just wondering how it got there now and what it means? dee
On 22 Feb 2010, at 12:50, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
In a
http://stopcallingitautism.com/labsandresearchinformation.php
Check out Daniel's story and the videos of before and after treatments. The
test results and results from treating the inflammation are very
encouraging.
Tara McClintick
http://www.booksbytara.com www.booksbytara.com
This seems to be an army email system, which has added a trusted certificate on
my system somehow. dee PS whatever it is Medwith J Robert has stopped
receiving emails from the silver-list and wants to be put back!
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Rules
From looking at his generators and the ad copy, I'd say he doesn't know
much about *making* CSW [Using it, maybe yes], but does know a lot about
how to manipulate emotions, confuse an issue and how to tell partial truths
to accomplish his personal goals.
While Progressives control is
Wise words falling on deaf ears I guess Ode. dee
On 22 Feb 2010, at 14:41, Ode Coyote wrote:
From looking at his generators and the ad copy, I'd say he doesn't know much
about *making* CSW [Using it, maybe yes], but does know a lot about how to
manipulate emotions, confuse an issue
Thank you Ode:)
Annie
Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh
Ode Coyote wrote:
Good reference
http://www.health-care-tips.org/herbal-medicines/
ode
At 10:26 AM 2/21/2010 -0600, you wrote:

Cool, I love poke root. Much undervalued and even worse, surrounded by
LOL, Ode. Where did you find that?
Annie
Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh
Ode Coyote wrote:
HOLY COW!!
Laser Therapy Pen Specifications:
Wavelength: 635nm
Output Power: 5mw
Price $199 plus shipping.
for a standard red laser pen that even takes expensive
I think that the better ones are covered with a shell that only
dissolves in the intestines. But that is really an assumption on my part.
Marshall
Deborah Gerard wrote:
Thanks Mike :)
*From:* M. G. Devour
No loading thing in my message. He just said his
emails had stopped and to put him back on the
list. But then again, I run my email program
sandboxed so who knows.
Annie
Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I got a strange email from Medwith J
Thanks Ode. Considering I've had your puppy for, oh, 4 or 5 years now, I'm
assuming the regulator wouldn't be one of the energy savers.
I was just wondering if it was possible to make CC. Not that I'm interested
because I already know, as you say, it can be toxic at higher doses--and how
does
Sorry to hear that, I have been very busy lately, bringing up a new
server for the business, and have only been quickly skimming through the
messages. We have had a few reports of this, but not many. I still say
that generally one does not get it from EIS, but there do seem to be a
few
M. G. Devour wrote:
I wrote:
The following is a relevant, as well as entertaining, experiment run by
a past member and a couple of friends...
HA! Marshall beat me to it! LOL
Who what it that keeps telling us to read all messages before beginning
to reply. LOL.
Masrhal
--
The
Richard Goodwin wrote:
So Marshall and all you other experts, let me double check with you about
the high voltage arcing -- you are sure that it will produce silver nitrate?
Yes, especially if the arcing is above the water. using arcs to water
was the standard method of producing nitric
Many people on the clay list wash their hair with clay. Some use it
separately and some add liquid clay to their shampoo. They all say it gives
nice body to the hair. Most everyone on the clay list uses bentonite, but
for shampoo I would imagine any clay would work.
Samala,
Renee
Renee,
You are awaking encyclopedia. What is the clay list link please? I hope it's
a yahoo one. Much easier for having lists and managing from having a list
myself.
Thanks.
Appreciate hair info. Didn't even know there was a clay liquidI have the
powder...interesting.
carol
Marshal
The reducing was my post and I didn't say anything about boiling the cs,
only putting it on the coffee maker hot plate which will not boil it. It
will steam off slowly and not effect the integrity of the brew. You were
into color being caused by the size of the particle at the time and I
Just some info for anyone who would like to know, you can join www.lef.org
for 75 dollars a year and order your own bolld work and other lab tests for
your self and your family through labcorp labs for a very reasonable amount and
their lab techs will gp over the result;ts with you, (of
I am pretty sure the blanket was Argon or helium, not carbon dioxide.
Carbon dioxide would simply replace the nitric acid with carbonic acid,
and make silver carbonate instead of silver nitrate. Still not good.
But you are correct, placing an inert gas blanket around the area of the
arc
poast wrote:
Hello Dick,
Please understand that this is still in the experimental stage... but
I have had pretty good success in making normal EIS, then using heat to
concentrate it. It takes a little time and effort to do, but it seems to
work very well. I don't know how pure it is, but if
Sorry, I was aware of the fact that the footer does not show up on some
messages, but was unaware that you were unaware of it.
Marshall
M. G. Devour wrote:
Hi folks,
While massaging the list server configuration, I've discovered an
apparently long-standing problem with the footer.
You
Also note that a bubbler increases the production of silver carbonate,
and if you bubble furiously you can get bubble trouble carbonate rubble.
Marshall
sol wrote:
At 01:14 PM 2/20/2010, you wrote:
I should have clarified in the last message that I didn't use a
bubbler with any of these
Hey Carol. Yes, it's a yahoo group. There's lots of info in the files, and
then Perry (lady, list owner and owner of the Living Clay company) has many
testimonials (which include methods of using clay) on her site. Just ask
her for the link to her testimonials page. You'll even find one by me
First look, oh, you accidentally put in that there are archives, which
we all know are not really there.
Second look, OH WOW, they ARE THERE Great work Mike.
Marshall
M. G. Devour wrote:
Why, THANK YOU, Chuck!
Now... Do you NOTICE anything SPECIAL about that FOOTER
ANYBODY?
evil
It should, although copper oxidizes pretty quickly from what I have
heard so after a few days it will look like something the witches of
Eastwick brewed (pretty turqouise green though).
Marshall
Renee wrote:
Ode, does this mean if I put copper wire in the Silver Puppy it will
make colloidal
I think mine is sandboxed automatically as it is a Mac. dee
On 22 Feb 2010, at 15:12, Annie B Smythe wrote:
No loading thing in my message. He just said his emails had stopped and to
put him back on the list. But then again, I run my email program sandboxed so
who knows.
Annie
Control
Thanks Mary Ann... Sara
Hi Sara. It's a great generator. I've had mine for almost ten
years. During that time, it has made no less than three batches a
week, and at times I've made as many as fourteen batches a week (2 per
day). It is a quality unit, worry-free. You'll enjoy the bells
Hi Maryann,
I bought one of these generatory last June. Since I'm llving over here in
Germany, I had to get the Universal one cause of the european voltage which
is about $40 bucks more. It was a disappointment to see that the extra $40
bucks was for something I could get at Radio Shack back in
Well, actually I do believe that they are aggregating, then breaking
apart again when you dilute. You must have missed my post on a theory
as to how that happens when I posted it a month or so ago. Here it is
again:
As the water evaporates the silver oxide reaches saturation, and
Interesting. Thanks for the info. I'll look into that. Sara
Despite not addressing a few things like repeatable electrode
mounting, edge/corner ion discharge concentration and an uncalibrated
PPM dial, the 777 is generally rated among the top 3 for both function
and value.
My [ biased ]
Type 11 diabetes! That's bad
Dan
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:
I have a friend like this Rowena, but she will not listen to me. She has
type 11 diabetes and is on BP meds Metformin and something else, also statins
and pain killers for
Get her to at least switch to the diet coke with splenda. It isn't good,
but at least it is not as deadly as their main diet coke.
Marshall
Dan Nave wrote:
Type 11 diabetes! That's bad
Dan
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:
I have a friend
We used bentonite and it seemed to work well. You prepare the clay mixture with
ACV and then wet your hair and then apply the clay mixture.
Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:
=
It doesn't say what sort of clay and *how* you wash your hair with it! Is it
bentonite, do
Renee
Copper supplements are indeed small 3 mg elemental Cu,
not much is needed.
You might try a supplement, very inexpensive.
I expect colloidal would be a small dose by definition.
A short trial of a few months perhaps?
Chuck
Chocaholic Mom Has
Aldi
On the front panel of the 777 there is a switch that is labeled either
standard or fast, the setting you need to use is the standard setting, the
red and green lights alternate every minute and the red comes on bright when
it shuts off.
On the fast setting it is running manually and will
Awesome Dee.
Dog doing fabulous!!! Still scratching a little bit but nothing like
before..her hair is coming nicely...not seeing hardly any raw red skin
Carol
From: scl...@cox.net scl...@cox.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Afternoon...I am new to the group and looking to buy a CS mach., at this point
I am confused about which is more effective, ionic or particle. I can't seem
to find an answer! One site they say ionic and other site it is particle. I
assume you people are very experienced in CS producion and
Hi Dee,
Did you google SSKI?
SSKI is a saturated solution of potassium iodide KI...hence it being
labeled SS (saturated solution) KI. There is potassium iodide (which is
a salt) and iodine (which is a halogen). They are different and
different parts of the body need KI (such as the thyroid)
Hello Ode,
Just when I think I am beginning to understand EIS, you throw out another
curve ball. At least hydrogen and oxygen are somewhat stable and uniform in
distilled water.
My experience so far is that I am able to get consistent conductivity from
batch to batch. My electrodes are
Dear Dee,
I got a strange email from Medwith J Robert with something about
caveats, which started doing a 'loading' thingy so I deleted it. Has
anyone else had this? dee
As you saw looking at Robert's e-mail address, he's posting from a
military/government system. The small attachment you
John, David, Ken, and others...
Here we go with the repetitious, inane, 3rd grade name-calling, again.
It's no wonder the 'smart people' no longer have anything to say on
silverlist - the wonderful we-we community.
John, would you kindly stop making this all so damned personal -- and
Hello Ode
you can make excellent colloidal silver with a Microwave oven
I have been using one for years ..There is no danger of High voltage
as the colloidal silver is made inside of the microwave and the door will
not open until the timer has stopped..The colloidal silver is made with
from 2400
Sandee.
You are probably thinking of Stephen Barrett, the Quackwatch guy.
But I'm talking about Steve Barwick, who also goes by the name of
Spencer Jones.
David
From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
Date: 23 February 2010 12:27:36 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBarwick's BS
You can roughly measure the dissolved ionic silver with a meter as
long as the CS is clear. (Double it if you are using a TDS/ppm meter).
The 'solid' particles that are also in the batch are not measurable
with a meter but you can see them with a laser.
Its all pretty rough but its the
That's what I thought. Give it a trial.
Samala,
Renee
---Original Message---
A short trial of a few months perhaps?
Excuse my butting in but the only way to *determine* anything with your EIS is
laboratory analysis. If you've got a pocket full of money and are willing to
get *several* samples analysed, go for it, but if not, then don't worry about
it, just keep using that meter.
Jeez, if I didn't know
Oops, sorry David, I believe I sent my reply a tad too soon.
Praps I should go back to bed for a while g
N.
From: da...@alchemysa.com.au
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:05:30 +1030
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSConfusion Making CS
You can roughly measure the dissolved ionic
Well John, as you say, Steve Barwicks little finger might know more
about colloidal silver than me but his brain doesnt seem to know the
difference between ions and particles.
the new Micro-Particle Home Colloidal Silver Generator produces
highly bio-available silver particles as low as
Please excuse me for appearing to be so dense David but if I'm getting a
reading on the TDS meter of 15 ppm, does that mean it's actually roughly 30 ppm?
I have seen some of my batches with 'sparklies' in them when using the laser
and I'm assuming these are the larger 'solid' particles that
Hi Marshall...what does bubble trouble carbonate rubble look like?
thanks Deb
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 11:09:56 AM
Subject: Re: CSConfusion Making CS
Also note that a bubbler increases
Hi all, I hope this isn't rude but My Red LED unit came with a handy
Acupressure book which also explains about the technology of the LED for
healing. Normal healthy cells omit wavelengths between 600 and 725 Nanometers.
When tissue is damaged the cells energy slows down. The idea is that
Hello Mike
You asked...
So, is it true that CS is actually BANNED, and no longer being sold in
Europe, or is it only that some labelling requirements have been
changed?
Answer that, please?
Barwicks own colloidalsilversecrets blog answers that question in the
same article in which he
Oops, Sorry
--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Christina Mattson tinamatt...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Christina Mattson tinamatt...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSRE: LED info and Laser VS Red LED
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 3:27 PM
Hi all, I hope this isn't rude but My Red LED
So Tina. Do the strand of red lights actually work? Do they relieve pain,
or smooth wrinkles? Does the Photonic Torch work?
I use Spectro-Chrome color system for healing, but to get the correct color
a regular household light bulb is used. LED lights don't have the correct
spectrum to use
Howdy,
I also received his email. When I opened it my computer froze and a window came
up stating it stopped because of a script error. I deleted it and am running a
virus scan.
When I googled the name nothing came up. Not exactly surprising. When I googled
an exwife because of some stuff
Hi Tina,
Now *that* is *very* cool. Of course it would work- Why not?
Thanks for posting it :-).
Stay well,
Linda :-)
---Original Message---
From: Christina Mattson
Date: 2/22/2010 6:31:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRE: LED info and Laser VS Red LED
At 06:05 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote:
Hello Dick,
It seems that this is an area that has been looked at before and there are
some theories on the quality of EIS produced at high voltages.
Unfortunately, extensive testing is cost prohibitive, so you will just have
to go with the theory.
I think I
Oops, Sorry
Oops, what?
Hi Christina,
You write:
Hi all, I hope this isn't rude but My Red LED unit came with a handy
Acupressure book which also explains about the technology of the LED
for healing.
The LED topic has been bouncing around here a little lately, so it's
not out of order to
David quotes John:
I've recommended the Micro-particle Colloidal Silver Water maker for
years to many friends who now have them, Bill Cooper being one of them.
It's the only CSW maker I recommend - I've had one for a few years -
the best I've ever owned! Thank you. -- John Stevens
Holy
Rowena, Thank you i appreciate it. Gives me some hope, not that I'm vein or
anything. Te He.
--- On Sun, 2/21/10, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote:
From: Rowena new...@internode.on.net
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin? Iron injection stains
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Oh, that was FUN!
Check the archives searching on HVAC, Bob
Now those were the days...
Chuck
**
At a Towing company:
We don't charge an arm and a leg. We want tows.
**
On 2/22/2010
At 08:12 AM 2/22/2010, you wrote:
how does a person tell if they are at a too high dose?
I personally just figured it out as a supposition worth trying a
remedy for after repeatedly running across mention of symptoms of
excess copper that I have had for years.
From my notes: excessive
Hi Renee, The book says... it helps rebuild collagen and yes they definitely
work on pain. NASA astronauts use this technology in space to keep their cells
from stagnating in zero gravity. I had some squint lines between my eyes and my
torch got rid of those but after i stopped using it there
Just assumed i did something wrong. lol
How do you appear in so many places at the same time?
Tina
--- On Mon, 2/22/10, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: LED info and Laser VS Red LED
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday,
From: brf brfifi...@rogers.com
Date: 23 February 2010 9:56:39 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSConfusion Making CS
Please excuse me for appearing to be so dense David but if I'm
getting a reading on the TDS meter of 15 ppm, does that mean it's
actually roughly 30 ppm?
I have
Here are a few more stories on hair growth with bentonite
http://www.aboutclay.com/testimonials.htm#Hair%20Care
Steve
Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:
=
It doesn't say what sort of clay and *how* you wash your hair with it! Is it
bentonite, do you think? dee
On
Just assumed i did something wrong. lol
LOL!
How do you appear in so many places at the same time?
Tina
Tonight I'm right by the computer, tinkering with the config files for
our off topic list. So, I'm kinda watching the list in realtime! grin
Mike D.
Oops, Sorry
Oops, what?
[Mike
[...could be another reason I have blue moons,...]
-They're slowly being eliminated one by one by the looks of it, that's two down
in as many weeks, if I stick around long enough I believe I'll get a 'hat
trick' g.
This appears to throw some *doubt?* on yet another suggestion that EIS
Hello Renee,
Feel free to use anything I post.
Yogurt manufacturers took a look at using acidified sodium chlorite to control
mold growth in their packages. The quickly abandoned the idea when they found
that it was destroying their yogurt by killing all of the bacteria. I
generally view
Hello Marshall,
I only did the reduction to 60 uS once just to see what happened. While the
solution was basically clear, you didn't need a laser to observe the Tyndall
effect. A pen light worked fine. As I recall, I had a few larger sparkle
particles in the solution.
I didn't keep it very
Well, that's good to know. I've read where led has helped pain, and some
people on other lists have posted that--but I haven't read any personal
experiences with wrinkles. Testimonials on sites that sell the lights, but
that's not the same, to me, of hearing someone on a list like this saying it
Well dang--I've got grey hair--symptom of not enough copper, and a couple
liver spots on my right hand, a symptom of too much copper. What's a lady
to do?? ;-)
Samala,
Renee
---Original Message---
I did read elsewhere an email claiming that liver spots (those dark
age spots on hands,
Has anyone seen this yet? Featured on 60 Minutes.
Looks promising.
Dan
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/18/60minutes/main6221135.shtml?tag=contentMain;cbsCarousel
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I once read that MDs using adult stem cell therapy have cured diabetes,
restoring the pancreas to normal condition. The cells came from the
patient's nostrils.I have not read follow-up on this report and
can't vouch for its accuracy.
On Sunday, Feb 21, 2010, at 04:22 Asia/Tokyo, Karen
Yes, the archives are up. Thanks for that, Mike! And for everything
else you've done to make this list one of the best on the net.
On Sunday, Feb 21, 2010, at 05:32 Asia/Tokyo, M. G. Devour wrote:
Why, THANK YOU, Chuck!
Now... Do you NOTICE anything SPECIAL about that FOOTER
Hi Tom,
It would be a real boon to have some sort of standard quantitative
analysis of silver content which could be done in a home lab/kitchen. a
titration method maybe? which would involve simple reagents and
glassware. I think another way would be a colorimetric method or
turbidity meter
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