Re: CSIV Question
I think you and all the people like you Pat, and Jen, are wonderful for the things you do, and IMO you are the sort of people who get MBE's etc., not pop stars and film stars! Give him a kiss for me and Murphy x Dee ---Original Message--- From: Pat Lawrie Date: 14/02/2007 01:58:52 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIV Question Jen, I just got 40cc of Pedialyte in him which has electrolytes like Gatorade. What other ingredients did you put in and what was wrong with the dog? This is an old and very neglected dog who was found tied up with a wire buried in his neck with an obvious tumor. I am praying he makes it thru the nite. Thanks for the suggestion. Pat rusty0 rus...@charter.net wrote: Pat, last year I saved a dogs life with of all things gatorade, which amazed me but it worked. add the needed ingredients to the gator ade and I used an eye dropper to give it to him as he was too far gone to be able to eat or swallow only took about 20 minutes and he was actuall standing up on his own 4 feet. from then on this babe grew and grew and grew and omg grew, he is huge now and 1 and a half years old. (also a spoiled brat) Jen
Re: CSIV Question-Update
He got CS in the IV yesterday. I put CS and DMSO gel on his tumor late last nite. He was touch and go all nite but made it thru. This morning walked with help and did his business. He ate a gruel of food with a fair amount of water and tbsp CS. I reapplied CS and DMSO to tumor (I feel it is softening). Also giving him a bit of Rescue Remedy and Pedialyte. But two hours later he vomited what he ate. Another pee had blood in it. He is now sleeping out in the shade after being in the sun. I know this guy is loaded with bacteria as pus exudes from eyes, penis, and various places in skin. I feel the treatments are working but don't know how much more he can tolerate. The toxic overflow may kill him. I have wanted to use the Clarke Zapper on him, but have held back. Pat Garnet garnetri...@granitepoint.net wrote: I would look into mixing CS with DMSO and injecting that or using a sub q delivery if you want to get a lot into him. The DMSO will deliver the CS deep into tissues and even penetrates bone within 20 minutes. It is safe to use IV but should be given in a slow push to avoid some hemolysis. It can be applied topically as well, mixed with CS. There is a cancer treatment site that you can read about a topical protocol for Cancer http: //www. new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC. html . Spaces are to avoid spam filters, please remove them when pasting into your browser Garnet Pat Lawrie wrote: Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat */Ode Coyote /* wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. - Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: CSIV Question
Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
Re: CSIV Question
I would look into mixing CS with DMSO and injecting that or using a sub q delivery if you want to get a lot into him. The DMSO will deliver the CS deep into tissues and even penetrates bone within 20 minutes. It is safe to use IV but should be given in a slow push to avoid some hemolysis. It can be applied topically as well, mixed with CS. There is a cancer treatment site that you can read about a topical protocol for Cancer http: //www. new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC. html . Spaces are to avoid spam filters, please remove them when pasting into your browser Garnet Pat Lawrie wrote: Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat */Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net/* wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42297/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta
Re: CSIV Question
Hi Pat, I have read several places that dogs don't do well with milk or milk products especially pasturized or heated. so would find another vehicle to give the CS with. raw meat ground up or blended may be good with CS. I would give digestive enzymes such as Wobenzymes and bromelain. be well Marlene
From:Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.comReply-To:silver-list@eskimo.comTo:silver-list@eskimo.comSubject:Re: CSIV QuestionDate:Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:51:20 -0800 (PST)
Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also.
How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to ("how much is hard to quantify"). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first.
PatOde Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge.That's why "Kills 650 disease organisms" Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases.Contact is the key, delivery a challenge.Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't.Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ]OdeAt 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote:Hi all,I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and
de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well?I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK.If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to?Thanks for any advise,J.No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address
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RE: CSIV Question
Hi Ms Pat Sounds as though you're far ahead of most of us seekers and I congratulate you! Have you made one of bG's marvelous 6 bolt Godzilla's to apply concurrently with these other treatments? Go to microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com and you'll find photos, needed items and many beneficial results that others have had using it. Please visit my Site; www.rharrisinc.com read my background and let me know if I can be of help. Sincerely, Dr. Richard Harris, PD 448 W. Juniata St. Clermont, FL 34711 _ From: Pat Lawrie [mailto:doglandi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIV Question Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't.
RE: CSIV Question
You can also try www.eagleresearchllc.com They have something called a guardian
that seems to do quite well with tumours and healing and the like. I've tried
it here in Toronto from a woman who sells them.
Doris
Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
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st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }Hi Ms Pat
Sounds as though youre far ahead of most of us seekers and I congratulate
you! Have you made one of bGs marvelous 6 bolt Godzillas to apply
concurrently with these other treatments? Go to
microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com and youll find photos, needed items
and many beneficial results that others have had using it.
Please visit my Site; www.rharrisinc.com read my background and let me know
if I can be of help.
Sincerely,
Dr. Richard Harris, PD
448 W. Juniata St.
Clermont, FL 34711
-
From: Pat Lawrie [mailto:doglandi...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIV Question
Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog
with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been
giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up
his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more
debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making
walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I
was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I
was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little
water also.
How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full
strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought
of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first.
Pat
Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium
is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always
that challenge.
That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650
diseases.
Contact is the key, delivery a challenge.
Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't.
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Re: CSIV Question
I was also putting CS in his raw food diet, but added a little milk to his water and CS just so he would be getting some water in as he would not drink it without. Was not a lot of milk. I just got this dog a week ago in a debilitated state. Was also giving him Hcl as that is what I had available. I live in Mexico and don't have everything at my disposal. Ran out of flax oil and can't get any more, only the capsules. I gave him papaya just this morning for the enzymes, but he didn't eat like he was before. I did just get back from giving him the CS in an IV. Got less than 1/2 in and stopped as he was kind of having a bad reaction. Then vomited. He is resting comfortably now. If he lives thru the nite, I will give him some more IV tomorrow. Don't know if he will eat anything now. At this point he is critical. I knew this was a possibility when I took him on, but did so to give him some love and care in his last days. He was used and abused as a fighting pit bull, but his temperament is not at all aggressive. Pat Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com wrote: Hi Pat, I have read several places that dogs don't do well with milk or milk products especially pasturized or heated. so would find another vehicle to give the CS with. raw meat ground up or blended may be good with CS. I would give digestive enzymes such as Wobenzymes and bromelain. be well Marlene - From: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIV Question Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:51:20 -0800 (PST) Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, a! ddress your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
RE: CSIV Question
I have a Clarke Zapper but only used it once on him for fear of too much stuff
causing a worse reaction. I did the CS IV and that was touch and go. He is
resting comfortably right now. He is critical and don't know if he will last
the nite. Don't know if I should try the zapper tonite or not?? as a
totally last ditch effort.
Pat
Cinder Ella mcomfy...@yahoo.ca wrote:
You can also try www.eagleresearchllc.com They have something called a
guardian that seems to do quite well with tumours and healing and the like.
I've tried it here in Toronto from a woman who sells them.
Doris
Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
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st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }Hi Ms Pat
Sounds as though youre far ahead of most of us seekers and I congratulate
you! Have you made one of bGs marvelous 6 bolt Godzillas to apply
concurrently with these other treatments? Go to
microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com and youll find photos, needed items
and many beneficial results that others have had using it.
Please visit my Site; www.rharrisinc.com read my background and let me know
if I can be of help.
Sincerely,
Dr. Richard Harris, PD
448 W. Juniata St.
Clermont, FL 34711
-
From: Pat Lawrie [mailto:doglandi...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIV Question
Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog
with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been
giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up
his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more
debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making
walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I
was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I
was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little
water also.
How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full
strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought
of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first.
Pat
Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium
is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always
that challenge.
That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650
diseases.
Contact is the key, delivery a challenge.
Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't.
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Re: CSIV Question
Pat, last year I saved a dogs life with of all things gatorade, which amazed me but it worked. add the needed ingredients to the gator ade and I used an eye dropper to give it to him as he was too far gone to be able to eat or swallow only took about 20 minutes and he was actuall standing up on his own 4 feet. from then on this babe grew and grew and grew and omg grew, he is huge now and 1 and a half years old. (also a spoiled brat) Jen - Original Message - From: Pat Lawrie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Re: CSIV Question I was also putting CS in his raw food diet, but added a little milk to his water and CS just so he would be getting some water in as he would not drink it without. Was not a lot of milk. I just got this dog a week ago in a debilitated state. Was also giving him Hcl as that is what I had available. I live in Mexico and don't have everything at my disposal. Ran out of flax oil and can't get any more, only the capsules. I gave him papaya just this morning for the enzymes, but he didn't eat like he was before. I did just get back from giving him the CS in an IV. Got less than 1/2 in and stopped as he was kind of having a bad reaction. Then vomited. He is resting comfortably now. If he lives thru the nite, I will give him some more IV tomorrow. Don't know if he will eat anything now. At this point he is critical. I knew this was a possibility when I took him on, but did so to give him some love and care in his last days. He was used and abused as a fighting pit bull, but his temperament is not at all aggressive. Pat Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com wrote: Hi Pat, I have read several places that dogs don't do well with milk or milk products especially pasturized or heated. so would find another vehicle to give the CS with. raw meat ground up or blended may be good with CS. I would give digestive enzymes such as Wobenzymes and bromelain. be well Marlene -- From: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIV Question Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:51:20 -0800 (PST) Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date
RE: CSIV Question
If a dog is not drinking water and getting dehydrated, you can administer water or CS with an eye dropper into the rectum. A little water at a time will be absorbed by the large intestine. _ From: Pat Lawrie [mailto:doglandi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIV Question Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Everyone is raving about the http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42297/*http:/advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbe ta all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
RE: CSIV Question
He did get some IV CS today per an earlier email. But he is now critical. I
just got 40cc of Pedialyte into him. Will try again in an hour.
Thanks, Pat
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water and getting dehydrated, you can administer water or CS with an eye
dropper into the rectum. A little water at a time will be absorbed by the
large intestine.
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From: Pat Lawrie [mailto:doglandi...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIV Question
Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog
with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been
giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up
his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more
debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making
walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I
was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I
was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little
water also.
How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full
strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought
of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first.
Pat
Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium
is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always
that challenge.
That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650
diseases.
Contact is the key, delivery a challenge.
Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't.
Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'.
[and how much can be hard to quantify ]
Ode
At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote:
Hi all,
I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised
water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective
against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question
to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and
de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well?
I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an
alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances
of getting that are slim in the UK.
If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to?
Thanks for any advise,
J.
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Re: CSIV Question
Jen, I just got 40cc of Pedialyte in him which has electrolytes like Gatorade. What other ingredients did you put in and what was wrong with the dog? This is an old and very neglected dog who was found tied up with a wire buried in his neck with an obvious tumor. I am praying he makes it thru the nite. Thanks for the suggestion. Pat rusty0 rus...@charter.net wrote: Pat, last year I saved a dogs life with of all things gatorade, which amazed me but it worked. add the needed ingredients to the gator ade and I used an eye dropper to give it to him as he was too far gone to be able to eat or swallow only took about 20 minutes and he was actuall standing up on his own 4 feet. from then on this babe grew and grew and grew and omg grew, he is huge now and 1 and a half years old. (also a spoiled brat) Jen - Original Message - From: Pat Lawrie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Re: CSIV Question I was also putting CS in his raw food diet, but added a little milk to his water and CS just so he would be getting some water in as he would not drink it without. Was not a lot of milk. I just got this dog a week ago in a debilitated state. Was also giving him Hcl as that is what I had available. I live in Mexico and don't have everything at my disposal. Ran out of flax oil and can't get any more, only the capsules. I gave him papaya just this morning for the enzymes, but he didn't eat like he was before. I did just get back from giving him the CS in an IV. Got less than 1/2 in and stopped as he was kind of having a bad reaction. Then vomited. He is resting comfortably now. If he lives thru the nite, I will give him some more IV tomorrow. Don't know if he will eat anything now. At this point he is critical. I knew this was a possibility when I took him on, but did so to give him some love and care in his last days. He was used and abused as a fighting pit bull, but his temperament is not at all aggressive. Pat Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com wrote: Hi Pat, I have read several places that dogs don't do well with milk or milk products especially pasturized or heated. so would find another vehicle to give the CS with. raw meat ground up or blended may be good with CS. I would give digestive enzymes such as Wobenzymes and bromelain. be well Marlene - From: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIV Question Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:51:20 -0800 (PST) Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682
Re: CSIV Question
Bless you for being so caring to the poor animaldeb Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com wrote:I was also putting CS in his raw food diet, but added a little milk to his water and CS just so he would be getting some water in as he would not drink it without. Was not a lot of milk. I just got this dog a week ago in a debilitated state. Was also giving him Hcl as that is what I had available. I live in Mexico and don't have everything at my disposal. Ran out of flax oil and can't get any more, only the capsules. I gave him papaya just this morning for the enzymes, but he didn't eat like he was before. I did just get back from giving him the CS in an IV. Got less than 1/2 in and stopped as he was kind of having a bad reaction. Then vomited. He is resting comfortably now. If he lives thru the nite, I will give him some more IV tomorrow. Don't know if he will eat anything now. At this point he is critical. I knew this was a possibility when I took him on, but did so to give him some love and care in his last days. He was used and abused as a fighting pit bull, but his temperament is not at all aggressive. Pat Marlene Hanson mlehan...@msn.com wrote: Hi Pat, I have read several places that dogs don't do well with milk or milk products especially pasturized or heated. so would find another vehicle to give the CS with. raw meat ground up or blended may be good with CS. I would give digestive enzymes such as Wobenzymes and bromelain. be well Marlene - From: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIV Question Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:51:20 -0800 (PST) Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also. How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to (how much is hard to quantify). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first. Pat Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge. That's why Kills 650 disease organisms Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases. Contact is the key, delivery a challenge. Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't. Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ] Ode At 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote: Hi all, I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well? I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK. If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to? Thanks for any advise, J. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, a! ddress your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. - Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started!
