Re: CSthe vital placebo effect in ms etc

2004-04-25 Thread Ode Coyote
Why do some people who never pay any attention to healthy living, live to be very old with no medical problems? I think that medicine, health and illness, all, are symbolic in nature. This would fit perfectly into the context of a symbolic reality. Experience is real, the reality that

Re: CSthe vital placebo effect in ms etc

2004-04-26 Thread Ode Coyote
delivering phone books. He told us the Tuesday before that if we came over one Tuesday and saw a pair of smoking shoes, we'd know what happened. [Ode] Christine. From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:27:35 -0400 To: silver-list

Re: CSthe vital placebo effect in ms etc

2004-04-26 Thread Ode Coyote
But then, what stress is, is defined by what it does...not the situation it occurs in. It's not the situation that creates stress, but what one thinks about the situation. What is negative is an opinion. Some people thrive on what others would call extreme negativity. Like, if it weren't for

Re: CSthe vital placebo effect in ms etc

2004-04-26 Thread Ode Coyote
But dig a lot deeper into reality and you'll find that there's no such a thing as physical. There is only AS physical as in 'seen as' physical. In is also provable that perception does not prove the existance of the perceived even though it does self validate the belief in the preception to

Re: CSembarassing help

2004-04-26 Thread Ode Coyote
Prep H [or whatever..such as vitamin E oil] and a butt plug for an hour while resting. [The pressure of the plug holds things in place so blood pressure and gravity don't hold it out of place] Ideally, the 'stem' not be very long and should be much narrower than the 'knob' H [or whatever] Can

Re: CSPrions

2004-04-30 Thread Ode Coyote
But then we have mild silver protein. Perhaps silver will bond to wild proteins and make them, er, unsticky? Act like a bird in their jet engines? Gum up their landing gear? Ode At 06:59 AM 4/29/2004 -0500, you wrote: CS is thought to act by inactivating an enzyme that is resposible for

Re: CSMan-made mycoplasmas and the Hazards of CS/DMSO

2004-04-30 Thread Ode Coyote
So DMSO and garlic help prevent the spread of communicable disease organizms by imposing a form of Quarantine. Ode Also, to keep this CS related, I have been using CS and a tiny bit of DMSO in a nose spray bottle to keep the nasal region clean and clear. Well, all I can say is do your friends a

Re: CSGrades of H202

2004-04-30 Thread Ode Coyote
Aluminum...think you can avoid it? It's the third most common element on the planet. ..every breath you take..every move you make.. Ode At 02:02 PM 4/30/2004 +1000, you wrote: Hi Garnet folks, My Gods! Aluminium! (Sigh) Latest in my education: In Oz the grades are: Industrial Food

Re: CS3% hydrogen peroxide

2004-04-30 Thread Ode Coyote
Hydrogen Peroxide can also me made by the following methods: * Chemically - treat Barium Peroxide with Sulfuric Acid. Barium Sulfate settles to the bottom and Hydrogen Peroxide is drained off. (To concentrate, it is vacuum distilled.) Ok * Treat water with ultraviolet light. Does this

Re: CS3% hydrogen peroxide

2004-05-01 Thread Ode Coyote
At 05:09 AM 4/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hi Ode, I like the sound of using ultraviolet light. It sounds too simple to be true though. Anyone could access an ultraviolet light. I have one somewhere that I used to check grain for mold. Anyone on this list know how this would work? Surely not

Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages

2004-05-01 Thread Ode Coyote
I have a friend in Illinois that walks his sheep through a CS tub to prevent/cure hoof diseases. He says it works great. ode At 09:44 AM 4/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on

Re: CSallergic to silver?

2004-05-01 Thread Ode Coyote
If hypnotism can produce or alleviate allergic reactions, then many of these are probably psychological in root nature. My adventures into pendulum work, dowsing and muscle testing have revealed to me that these methods say what you believe and work as a connection to hidden beliefs and

Re: CSPrion Party

2004-05-01 Thread Ode Coyote
Gee, I wonder who it was that fed pigmy cannibal brains to cows and deer in the first place? ;-) Ode At 03:24 PM 4/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: Evening Marshall, If one mad cow ended up in certain products, hundreds of thousands of people could be exposed to it. Everyone seems to

Re: CSDMSO - other side?

2004-05-01 Thread Ode Coyote
The report says it's pretty safe then screams a lot. Health Rating: 1 - Slight Flammability Rating: 2 - Moderate Reactivity Rating: 1 - Slight Contact Rating: 1 - Slight Lab Protective Equip: GOGGLES; LAB COAT; VENT HOOD; PROPER GLOVES; CLASS B EXTINGUISHER Storage Color Code: Red (Flammable)

Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus

2004-05-01 Thread Ode Coyote
Uh, you wouldn't happen to know the natural enemy of the carpenter bee, would you? Bad-bee-minton is fun, but not all that effective. I cultivate mud wasps because they'll fill in any hole..including fuel lines and small garden hoses. They're just not keeping up. [Maybe they made a deal with

Re: CSDMSO - other side?

2004-05-01 Thread Ode Coyote
Since it's an industrial solvent, suggesting that it can be used as a biological transport tool would make it belong to a different catagory. Saying 'not for topical use' implies that use. If one is to avoid reclassification, one must not make warnings pertaining to that classification. DMSO

Re: CSDMSO - other side?

2004-05-01 Thread Ode Coyote
Dire warnings with a disclaimer: [Yup, we said it as required by law but we don't mean it that way] 11. Toxicological Information Oral rat LD50: 14,500 mg/Kg. Irritation data (std Draize, rabbit): Skin = 500 mg/24 hour, mild; Eye = 500 mg/24 hour, mild. Investigated as a tumorigen, mutagen,

CSDMSO

2004-05-01 Thread Ode Coyote
Golly, it took some looking but I did find out what DMSO is supposed to be used for. ode https://www.e-organicchemicals.com/thio/dimethyl/ Dimethyl Sulfoxide (DMSO) - Highly Polar, Aprotic Solvent CH3–S–CH3 || O ATOFINA manufactures DMSO in Lacq, France and supplies it worldwide. In North

Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus

2004-05-01 Thread Ode Coyote
-01 at 06:23, Ode Coyote wrote: CS kills bees, doesn't it? Humm... CS water next to the house but not near the flowers? Plain water near the flowers. Why not near the flowers Ode? I have used some on house plants and they grow like crazy. Am trying it on outdoor container plants. Small

Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus

2004-05-02 Thread Ode Coyote
I know this is getting off topic..but but but. I have about an acre of 80 to 100 ft tall tulip trees [poplar] right next to the house. They do hover up there a lot. Thompsons is the only finish on the house...doesn't slow em down a'tall. [They just make funny faces and keep on drilling..and I

Re: CSCS works again

2004-05-02 Thread Ode Coyote
Could be so called 'flea allergy'. ie We don't know so we'll blame it on fleas so you can feel guilty enough pay us a lot and buy more flea powder. I had a cat with that problem. CS does help quite a bit. I guess that healthy fleas don't itch as much. Ode At 07:05 AM 5/2/2004 +, you

Re: CSCS and GNC Stores

2004-05-03 Thread Ode Coyote
That's gotta be better than the MSP they're selling now. Ode At 09:11 PM 5/2/2004 -0700, you wrote: ALPINE, UT, March 29, 2004 American Biotech Labs (ABL), a private company in which Clifton owns a 28.5% interest, has signed a contract to supply GNC [5,500 stores]with a silver supplement

Re: CSOde: how to get rid of wood boring bumblebees!

2004-05-04 Thread Ode Coyote
Goof off is a solvent for removing adhesives , paint drips and such. Starter fluid, carburator cleaner or gasoline will work too...any petro volatile. I use a touch of gas on paper wasp and hornet nests when I really need to work in that area [otherwise, I leave em bee] Puts em right to

Re: CSOther colloidals

2004-05-04 Thread Ode Coyote
I have never gotten any appreciable results from using anything but silver in a low voltage generator. Ode At 10:39 AM 5/3/2004 -0500, you wrote: Reading about Colloidal Gold brought up a couple of questions: 1. Everyone here (obviously) uses colloidal silver, but what about the other

Re: CSOther colloidals

2004-05-04 Thread Ode Coyote
I HAVE made a green grey precipitate of copper using low voltage, but only about 2 uS conductivity change and no TE after letting the setup run for days. Using a silver /copper alloy electrode might work. Ode At 11:49 AM 5/3/2004 -0400, you wrote: The Hatzfeld's wrote: Reading about

Re: CSCleaning Electrodes

2004-05-04 Thread Ode Coyote
It doesn't matter. A piece of denim works quite well. The paper towel alone is sufficient. It's not even neccesary to make the electrodes shine. Ode At 10:45 PM 5/3/2004 -0500, you wrote: I've read that to clean the electrodes, you should use a nylon scrub pad, and then wipe with a plain

Re: CSDeionized water

2004-05-07 Thread Ode Coyote
If it works and you like what you get by using it, it's fine. Ode At 02:18 PM 5/5/2004 +0100, you wrote: Hi List, I am a new member and I hope you can settle an argument. I have been making CS for many years, using deionized water as I live in the UK where distilled water is hard to come by.

Re: CSDispensing Question

2004-05-07 Thread Ode Coyote
A funnel or a piece of 1/4 tubing for a siphon and an old liquer or wine bottle...very well cleaned and rinsed with distilled.. will do just fine. I use an old clear glass gin bottle. Ode At 02:22 PM 5/5/2004 -0500, you wrote: I've made up a quart of colloidal silver. My first batch! :^) I

Re: CScolloidal generators/magnetism

2004-05-08 Thread Ode Coyote
See what the return policy is. Lots of claims there and not much info to back them up. If that machine actually does all that's claimed, it might be worth it...but what if it doesn't? $200 for the basic stirred cs-2 model ain't too bad...then add megabucks for each little add on? ..and then pay

CSfloatron etc

2004-05-08 Thread Ode Coyote
Here's that pool ionizer I saw back in the 70s! It's a lot cheaper [and nicer] now...only $247 2004 dollars vs $300 1976 dollars http://shop.solardirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_121products_id=234 My cousin in the Merchant Marines [living in Brazil] told me about this silver ion

Re: CSOde unfair to copywriters!

2004-05-09 Thread Ode Coyote
If you're selling miracles...sell miracles and call them miracles. CS generators are machines. CS has properties Ode At 04:32 PM 5/9/2004 +1000, you wrote: At 02:13 AM 09/05/04 GMT+10, (my time) silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote : Subject: Re: CScolloidal generators/magnetism END OF

Re: CSWater Temp

2004-05-10 Thread Ode Coyote
I've found that over 110 deg F will tend to do that. It's 'OK' to use. Ode At 03:04 PM 5/9/2004 +, you wrote: What should the temperature of the distilled water be for generating CS? I made some (perhaps with too warm water) and got very golden colour. Should I use it? Marie.

Re: CSWater Temp

2004-05-10 Thread Ode Coyote
If you're not using current control, starting with warm water, which is significantly more conductive than cold water, will get the runaway ramp up going at a faster spot on the acceleration curve. I find a change of about 3 microsiemens change in conductivity per 10 degrees F of temperature.

Re: CSWater Temp

2004-05-10 Thread Ode Coyote
At 03:43 PM 5/9/2004 +, you wrote: It's In The Water When you do this yourself, it is very important to control the purity of the water, because the purity of the water is one of the factors that controls how small the particles of silver will be. Only high quality DISTILLED water should

Re: CSOde unfair to copywriters!

2004-05-10 Thread Ode Coyote
I set out to be a rail/road bum and enjoyed many years of success. I even wrote a nice essay about the subject soon after learning to read and write. [age 6] I was told it was unacceptable. They tried to force me to write another essay, which I refused to do. That was a wonderful propulsion

Re: CSRE: auto shut off

2004-05-10 Thread Ode Coyote
Not enough info to make any judgement at all. Current, conductivity, voltage, distance and electrode surface area are all interdependent. Change one and they all change. If any one of the factors are changing more and more rapidly, good luck predicting anything. ode At 04:22 PM 5/9/2004

Re: CSPsoriasis

2004-05-11 Thread Ode Coyote
Could be that he likes sailing but feels guilty about doing it, so it requires reasons and pain to justify the pleasurable experience. If I understand correctly, Psoraisis and Herpes attacks can be aggravated [caused] by stress. It requires stress to pay for the vacation and creates the need for

Re: CSWater Temp

2004-05-11 Thread Ode Coyote
CS doesn't 'necessarily' go golden at any concentration. It's just that the stronger it is, the more unstable it can be...and the less it takes to 'kick' it. For instance: I made a colorless batch so strong that it looked like dilute skim milk. It sat for a month unchanged. I poured some of it

Re: CSChemo-Blood brain barrier

2004-05-11 Thread Ode Coyote
Silver has been found in the brains of cadavers by autopsy, misleading some to believe that silver causes brain damage in high doses over time. Obviously, it crossed any barriers in order to get there to be found. Silver is also used to stain damaged brain tissue for diagnostic purposes.

Re: CSChemo Men, Medicine Miracles

2004-05-11 Thread Ode Coyote
Dr. Seagal says cancer is about anger - the specific location(s) will reflect some of the thinking processes that have gone askew, that need reviewing and addressing. ## That's interesting. My friend with the brain tumor is an Angry young man / health freek planet saver who thinks everyone

Re: CSBest distilled water ?

2004-05-11 Thread Ode Coyote
Distilled water just plain ole varies. I use Foodloin water a lot. Sometimes it's as high as 4 uS...usually around 2 uS. Lately it's been .4 uS Ode At 09:38 PM 5/10/2004 GMT, you wrote: In my recent search for good DW I have found Arrowhead to be among the best testing out at .7 on my

Re: CSChemo Men, Medicine Miracles

2004-05-12 Thread Ode Coyote
about what is wrong? Resistance is futile. Where consciousness flows no dis-ease grows. God loves all. His 'com- p.u. -ter' has a glitch needs reprogramming. Christine ps - Ode you paint good word pictures... From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net Dr. Seagal says cancer is about anger

Re: CSBest distilled water

2004-05-12 Thread Ode Coyote
It doesn't pay to ship water around at 67 cents to $1.50 a gallon retail. It's all locally distilled regardless of brand. Some brands practice better oversight on the local distillers. In some places, the same distiller makes all the brands. ode At 04:09 PM 5/11/2004 -0400, you wrote: I use

Re: CSspider bite zapping using the Godzilla?

2004-05-14 Thread Ode Coyote
If that's the case, sticking the electrode leads or the electrodes of your silver generator across the bite ought to do the job. Current flow can be controlled by the use of varying strengths of salt water on the skin? ode At 01:17 PM 5/13/2004 -0400, you wrote: Would the Godzilla machine

Re: CSSpider Bite Zapper?

2004-05-15 Thread Ode Coyote
I've used those things to help stroke victims reconnect themselves. The idea is to send an impulse strong enough for a different section of the brain to find. Seems to work. ode At 01:02 PM 5/14/2004 -0500, you wrote: Summer is around the corner. The bugs will be out in force soon. I'll be

Re: CSHow to build up blood count?

2004-05-15 Thread Ode Coyote
If it were me, I'd keep the packing soaked with CS. ode At 11:09 AM 5/14/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hello all— I have a friend who has just undergone a hysterectomy. After her surgery, she developed blood clots in her stomach. The doctor went in through the same incision to solve

Re: CS

2004-05-15 Thread Ode Coyote
Is this from:?? http://www.mts.net/~revive/index_orig.html 5,000 p.p.m. now available to EVERYONE during this time of terrorist attacks and possible biological E.G. Anthrax germ WARFARE. Our laboratories in North America utilize compounded atoms of silver, suspended in solution by protein

Re: CS

2004-05-18 Thread Ode Coyote
Vaguely here..isn't a low T cell count an indication that there is a lack of infection and cd4 related somehow to T cells? So, like, if these cd4s and 8 are 'suppressed'...meaning low, perhaps it's because the ionic silver made a lot of them unneccesary. I would think that making [I Pharm]

Re: CSExtra Credit

2004-05-19 Thread Ode Coyote
Probably not..while tied to the outhouse. Batteries can be made by inserting dissimilar metals into a citrus fruit. ..solar stills are low tech items. A piece of plastic sheet and a pebble sort of stuff. Ode At 11:44 AM 5/18/2004 -0500, you wrote: Here's an extra credit problem for all the

Re: CSDissolved ions

2004-05-20 Thread Ode Coyote
Perhaps a clue to the answer lies in the difficulty of getting water to hold an electrostatic charge. Ions have an electrical potential? Complete Atoms don't? Ode At 11:14 AM 5/19/2004 -0700, you wrote: Hi List, Something has been bothering me for some time and recently I got into a friendly

Re: CSRe: CS for fishes

2004-05-20 Thread Ode Coyote
CS won't hurt the fish but will render its environment unlivable. Treat fish in a seperate bowl, then return them to the tank. Ode At 12:27 AM 5/20/2004 -0500, you wrote: I am aware CS has many uses around the home. What about adding some to my pet Gold fishes? Can CS germ killing

Re: CSIs DMSO viricidal in vivo?

2004-05-23 Thread Ode Coyote
I wonder how they measure the 'frequency of consciousness' to get these numbers when conciousness itself has eluded definition so far and no one really knows what it even is or where it comes from. Ode Dr. David Hawkins indicates 80% of the world have consciousness around the 200 MHz level.

Re: CSIs DMSO viricidal in vivo?

2004-05-23 Thread Ode Coyote
implications for every aspect of human life.' Further info: google...or http://www.veritaspub.com/ or http://www.beyondtheordinary.net/drhawkins.shtml or http://www.sedonacreativelife.com/pre0088.html etc. Christine Carleton thebodytalkcli...@telus.net From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net

Re: CSSkeptics

2004-05-24 Thread Ode Coyote
They need support? LOL Ode They even have support groups for young girls without breasts. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CSThe Glass vs Plastic debate..

2004-05-24 Thread Ode Coyote
Do polypropylene leach elements kill or weaken bacterium? Same results with, say, polycarbonate? Ode At 01:08 AM 5/24/2004 GMT, you wrote: Anyone find these comments to be true? This is an article from ABL labs web page. The findings suggest that plastic may be better than glass for cs

Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-25 Thread Ode Coyote
According to ASAP Solutions, their CS has been Gov't approved in Ghauna for the treatment of malaria. Many of the claims that ASAP makes are total BS including the one saying that their patented CS is any different from your home made CS. If CS will cure it...I don't see why it wouldn't

Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-25 Thread Ode Coyote
Take a small solar array [battery trickle charger] and a some silver coins with you? Ode At 02:34 PM 5/24/2004 -0700, you wrote: The CS machine is great in a first world country. However in a third world country one must consider such thing as 1. electricity challenges - frequency of

Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-25 Thread Ode Coyote
I don't think plugging one straight into a 240 outlet will do very well. A 120 outlet? ..maybe [Scared to try it] Hummm...maybe I will, just for grins and giggles. What's a little smoke and capacitor shrapnel? Ode At 06:51 PM 5/24/2004 -0300, you wrote: - Original Message -

Re: CSDoes ionized water taste like mineral water?

2004-05-25 Thread Ode Coyote
At 04:31 PM 5/24/2004 -0700, you wrote: Does ionized water taste like mineral water? Anyone know? No...more like distilled water. Mineral water tastes bitter to me. So does spring water to a certain extent. But well water tastes neutral fine on my taste buds. My well water tastes

Re: CSTestimonial for curing Rheumatoid Arthritis with Colloidal Silver

2004-05-25 Thread Ode Coyote
Color won't tell you anything about PPM. You can make 30 PPM a light yellow, deep amber to blackish brown or absolutely colorless. ode At 08:58 PM 5/24/2004 -0500, you wrote: Hi, I was asked to write Zeruiah and ask how she made her CS and how she knew the PPM. Here are her answers:

Re: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-25 Thread Ode Coyote
http://www.ghorganics.com/Wormwood.html Wormwood, Artemisia Absinthium has been used for centuries as a moth repellant, general pesticide and as a tea/spray to repel slugs and snails. Before its' toxicity was known it was used as the name implies: a worming medicine for people and animals. You

Re: CSTacit Assumptions?

2004-05-26 Thread Ode Coyote
If you want some sediments..make a strong brew of any color and toss a piece of shiny copper wire in the bottom and let it sit for a few weeks. The copper remains untouched but everything suspended in that water will drop out. Even black CS will clear up. Even conductivity drops something like

RE: CSMalaria questions

2004-05-26 Thread Ode Coyote
to me. But dodging whom? The USA FDA? Ode Sincerely, Richard Harris; 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 5:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMalaria questions According to ASAP Solutions

Re: CSTestimonial for curing Rheumatoid Arthritis with Colloidal Silver

2004-05-26 Thread Ode Coyote
I have no real way of knowing except by using a PWT. [My old AA Spectrophotometer isn't working yet..not that I have a clue as to how to use it] Since the relationship of conductivity to PPM is not linear, I can only speculate when going beyond around 20 PPM. I've gone as high as 79 uS on the

Re: CSpink eye

2004-05-28 Thread Ode Coyote
I spray home made CS directly into the eye for infections of any kind [sties for me..darned saw dust.] To hit the back side of the eyeball, a good heafty snort in the ole sinuses seems to do that job. Don't use commercial preparations for this unless you know how they are made and exactly

Re: CSDoes ionized water taste like mineral water?

2004-05-28 Thread Ode Coyote
-list@eskimo.com From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net> Ode, thanks for the info. BTW, how do mineral water spring water taste to you? # I've never tried mineral water. Very good spring water tastes like distilled to me. It depends on the spring. It all depends on what sort of rock it's runn

RE: CSTestimonial for curing Rheumatoid Arthritis with Colloidal Silver

2004-05-29 Thread Ode Coyote
Mancy Send one to odecoy...@alltel.net OK? Ode You don't necessarly want higher PPM of cs. You will want the finest, smallest particles. You can make the particles of your home made CS much tinier by adding 1 drop of 3%H2o2 to each 2 oz. of CS. it is truly amazing how tiny the particles

RE: CSTestimonial for curing Rheumatoid Arthritis with ColloidalSilver

2004-05-29 Thread Ode Coyote
It's not a hard and fast rule. Depends on how it's made and how strong. 20 PPM will generally have a higher percentage of the silver in particle form than 15 ppm. 5- 10 PPM may not have any or very few. Also, if the particles are larger, the 'number' of particles will be smaller but the

RE: CSTestimonial for curing Rheumatoid Arthritis withColloidalSilver

2004-05-29 Thread Ode Coyote
Trem and I use virtually the same process and get virtually the same ratios. Others might not. Frank Keys site shows breakdowns of various commercial preparations, some get 97% ionic at 20 PPM, I believe. Some of the weaker products get 100% ionic. Here's a good example: Trace Minerals -

RE: CSRatio of ionic to colloidal silver in SilverGen

2004-05-30 Thread Ode Coyote
I believe that Frank Key uses an ultra centrifuge to nail particles to the wall and AA Spec. Or maybe his Malvern Particle sizer does it all. ode At 12:42 PM 5/29/2004 -0600, you wrote: That gives total Ag in any sample; how do you separate them? TIA JOH -Original Message- From:

CSperoxide+CS shelf life etc

2004-05-30 Thread Ode Coyote
My observations indicate that it doesn't matter when you add H2O2 nor does it have a limited shelf life. .but don't start a batch with it. Even 4 drops per pint does something eventually. It doesn't take much. Too much tastes really nasty. PS, Peroxide also does a fine job of cleaning

Re: CSDoes ionized water taste like mineral water?

2004-05-30 Thread Ode Coyote
You could try putting my email address into your address book. Silver is reactive to sulpher. DMSO is a sulpher compound. I wonder what DMSO does to CS? ...DMSO + H2O2 + CS [eis]= Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for

Re: CSRe, The FDA

2004-05-31 Thread Ode Coyote
give you. Ode Coyote posted a link a few months ago. I,ll try and find tomorrow if someone else doesn't post it. It's just amazing to me as to how these web pages disappear. Tchau Sam Hi, Can you tell us what ASAP is made from? Is this Artemisinin? Thank you, Jean Baugh

Re: CSHVAC Ultra Pro and Patents

2004-06-01 Thread Ode Coyote
... Patents used to say, very near the top, forbids all others from making, selling, or using. Sounds like a drug company and the fed when they extract and control a substance that's been used for millenia. CS pro has a patent on a circuit that's been in every engineers head

Re: CS2 cases of argyria reported

2004-06-03 Thread Ode Coyote
Yup I can be done if you go far enough out of your way to do it. Ode At 07:13 AM 6/2/2004 -0700, you wrote: Two men who took colloidal silver for about a year have been diagnosed with argyria at the dermatology clinic at the VA clinic in Reno, Nevada...

Re: CSTesla

2004-06-03 Thread Ode Coyote
George Westinghouse was Teslas supporter. Tesla had a contract that entitled him to a royalty on every AC kilowatt sold. He could have been the richest man on the planet. He traded it for Georges support of his experiments, then used up trainloads of coal to power what was considered total

Re: CSmolecula silver???

2004-06-06 Thread Ode Coyote
The Silver Problem Colloidal and Ionic silver are in a 3 dimensional physical form and take up space. Even if so small they did not harmfully build up in the body, there is a second problem. ## And Molecula silver doesn't take up space? [Note that they didn't actually say that..the spin starts

RE: CSTesla

2004-06-06 Thread Ode Coyote
I believe the hotel let him stay there for free in one of the less desirable rooms [without maid service?] because his fame drew people to the hotel. I think I read that Tesla became a fixture in the dining room. People would buy his meals just to talk with him? I'd buy him dinner. Tesla

Re: CSWhat does everyone make of this?

2004-06-07 Thread Ode Coyote
ALL INFORMATION IS EDUCATIONAL AND PROVIDED UNDER IAS TERMS AND CONDITIONS. IT SHOULD NOT REPLACE THE ADVICE OF YOUR PHYSICIAN...or be considered as anything but slippery ad copy full of distortions of the facts and exceptions to the general rules. MSP might come under the grandfathering rules

RE: CSTesla

2004-06-07 Thread Ode Coyote
I used to be able to visualize a running V8 and hear the sounds every piece made by it's mass, environment and resonance. Now I don't hear that well and can barely hold a picture in my head. I read Teslas approved biography..never met him. I'm not 'that' old. I also know a few geniuses and

Re: CSbladder infection

2004-06-14 Thread Ode Coyote
Many people say it's worked for them but the reverse flush [squeeze bulb] seems to be the ideal method. I've never heard of a woman doing it but a womans plumbing is similar with the exception of the faucet shape. Ode At 02:42 PM 6/13/2004 -0500, you wrote: A friend that I had printed some of

Re: CS20 ppm CS

2004-06-15 Thread Ode Coyote
Look into Trems 5 gallon machine. I don't think you can hurry the process but a bigger machine can do the volume. It's going to take a LOT of electrode surface area. It might be possible to reduce the water volume of the 10PPM stuff with a vaccum. Ode At 05:24 PM 6/14/2004 -0400, you

Re: CS20 ppm CS

2004-06-15 Thread Ode Coyote
Although that's probably the best way to do it... That's just one way to get there. Another way is to use the bypass switch after shutdown and run the batch longer. Beaker [8 oz] batches for 15 minutes extra Pints for 40 minutes Quarts for 1 hr 50 minutes extra. Not the answer to Marshalls

RE: CS20 ppm CS

2004-06-15 Thread Ode Coyote
Both the silverpuppy and SG6 use conductivity feedback to tell when to shut themselves down, but conductivity and PPM aren't the same thing at the same time and conductivity drops and stabilizes within about 12 hours. My tests show that the two different values more or less equate 'after'

Re: CS20 ppm CS

2004-06-15 Thread Ode Coyote
I have it on good authority that the SG6 is no longer as noisy as it once was. ;-) [Though I've never actually seen one] And I believe the motor now shuts down when the generator does? This stuff doesn't stand still when being built by the experimenting developer. [VS re-salers..most of which

Re: CSHome Made Gatorade

2004-06-17 Thread Ode Coyote
Yea, plus I would think that sea salt would include virtually every metallic salt possible including tin, lead, mercury, arsenic... Ode At 08:06 AM 6/16/2004 -0700, you wrote: I would think the purer of the two would be the common salt as it was formed long before the

Re: CSalkali water

2004-06-22 Thread Ode Coyote
From CS Pro Use our Baking Soda Calibration Solution which does NOT combine or react with silver! Produces a slightly ALKALINE CS (pH = 7.5-8.0) The reason that Dr Marx uses baking soda is to preset the conductivity of the water so using a timer will get him at least in the ballpark of a

Re: CSSuper Silver

2004-06-24 Thread Ode Coyote
I don't see any reference to supersilver on the ASAP website. Perhaps these people modified or just renamed the standard ASAP CS which is absolutely no different than what we all make. Hydrogen Peroxide is by no means a stabilized oxygen...just the opposite. Stabilized oxygen can only be the

RE: CS Home brewing problems

2004-06-24 Thread Ode Coyote
### 200 microamps is 2 milliamps, right? Some people stop at 20 milliamps..I prefer to keep the current down to 1 millamp per square inch of exposed electrode and stop at some voltage. [At the very least, a graph made that way levels off so you can read it and predict something with reaonable

Re: CS Home brewing problems

2004-06-24 Thread Ode Coyote
Using Faradays equations doesn't account for silver oxide formation, fallout and plateout. [ie waste] It will tell you how much silver got off an electrode, but doesn't say where it went. Electrode deposits are an extreme variable. [Just guessing from eyeball observations..10% to 60% ??] If

RE: CS Home brewing problems

2004-06-25 Thread Ode Coyote
Sounds about right. With no deposits to speak of, Faraday is probably fairly close. Most people can perceive a metallic flavor 5 PPM ionic and up but not generally 4 PPM and under. ode At 03:12 PM 6/24/2004 +0100, you wrote: ### 200 microamps is 2 milliamps, right? No, I meant 0.2ma. I

RE: CStelephone CS maker

2004-06-25 Thread Ode Coyote
The ring surge doesn't last long enough to be a problem and a high frequency AC doesn't really let ions get very far before they get sucked back. If I remember, phone lines are current controlled to 20 milliamps..presumably so that the wires won't start fires if left shorted. Ode At 04:07 PM

RE: CS Useful current limit circuit

2004-06-26 Thread Ode Coyote
Constant current still depends on current 'draw' and will ramp up to the limit just like not using the circuit. It will go under 1 ma, just not over 1 ma. The LED never gets 'very' bright but it will be dimmer in better water. A standard 20 milliamp max LED does just fine. If the water pulls 1

RE: CS Useful current limit circuit

2004-06-26 Thread Ode Coyote
If you use tap water, you don't know what you're making. If anything 'can' happen in a charged ionic environment, it will. If I use my well water, even with current control, it makes blue grey crud. There's lots of iron in my well water..and who knows what else. Copper in the water will make

Re: CS Useful current limit circuit

2004-06-26 Thread Ode Coyote
Try this one with PNP transistors...it does work. 1k instead of the pot gives about 1 ma Picture isn't as nice. Ode At 11:51 AM 6/25/2004 -0400, you wrote: I see no way that would limit current. That is the workings of an SCR, which is an on/off device. I have used an identical circuit

Re: CSCat, Cancer and CS

2004-06-26 Thread Ode Coyote
I have a friend whos cat was diagnosed with feline leukemia. It was at deaths door. A little CS every day..for 5 years now.. and you'd never know it. ode At 05:37 PM 6/25/2004 -0400, you wrote: This may be a long post, sorry about that. First, Thanks to Mike and all the members of this

Re: CSNew commercial use of silver

2004-06-27 Thread Ode Coyote
AGION is a company trademark name distributing and licensing it stuff to many manufacturers. http://www.agion-tech.com/about5.asp Ode At 10:00 PM 6/26/2004 -0700, you wrote: I bought a new pair of running shoes yesterday and the shoes had a label on the foam insoles that read : Agion

Re: CS Useful current limit circuit

2004-06-27 Thread Ode Coyote
at a more or less linear rate while current stays rock steady. According to ohms law, that ain't possible. I'm trying to figure out what's going on. Ode At 07:50 PM 6/27/2004 +1000, you wrote: What voltage do you feed it with Ode? John in Australia - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote

Re: CSOhms Law does apply, Equivalent Circuit

2004-06-28 Thread Ode Coyote
At 05:23 PM 6/27/2004 -0500, you wrote: Evening Ode, You are trying hard to confuse me. grin I use about 32 volts out of a 24 volt transformer to start, then, of course, the voltage goes down from there as the current gets adjusted to stay constant. Are you talking about the load voltage

Re: CSOhms Law does apply, Equivalent Circuit

2004-06-28 Thread Ode Coyote
No, they don't get at all hot. 3906 transistors are rated at 40 volts max and 1 amp hooked up to 1/4 watt resistors. Nothing gets hot. Not even warm up to a 6 milliamp draw were I to set the current that high and short the out put. Then it gets warm. At one milliamp with shorted

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