[Simh] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Bill Cunningham
NCP is that network control program? "Network control protocol" and "link control protocol" I am finding is part of PPP. So RFC 801's reference to NCP; is that "network control program". I appreciate being corrected. Henry's BBN question is very interesting. Bill __

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Bill Cunningham
Well RFC 791 doesn't mention any "link control protocol". Maybe it never existed. Well modern man's highest acheivement launched in 1983 I see then. I just can't get over the way IP packets split, find the shortest routes and recombine at the destination :) amazing. PDPs are certainly mentioned

[Simh] Multics on SIMH?

2016-03-12 Thread Michael Kerpan
An offhand comment on another list led me to find out that a DPS-8/M emulator of sufficient completeness to be running Multics (with month-plus uptimes) has been created based on SIMH code: http://ringzero.wikidot.com/ Have the creators of this simulator been approached about possibly contributing

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Michael Short
On the history of networks, there was also a network called BITNET which was mainly used by educational institutions using mainframes. Started around 1981, it was originally based on the bisync protocol and was a store-and-forward system. At it peak it had about 500 organizations and about 3000 nod

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Henry Bent
On 12 March 2016 at 17:09, Bill Cunningham wrote: > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Clem Cole > *To:* Bill Cunningham > *Cc:* SIMH > *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:31 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support > > Bill, > > You probably need to date things a little and

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Bill Cunningham
- Original Message - From: Clem Cole To: Bill Cunningham Cc: SIMH Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support Bill, You probably need to date things a little and get a some perspective of where a few of us are coming. Just

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2016-03-12 20:36, Bill Cunningham wrote: What I meant was that I remember on early PCs using an rs232-c line for using the old BBSes and compuserve before it was an ISP. 10 cents a minute. I had several modems 300, 1200 and 2400 baud modems. Oh, certainly. RS-232 connections were used for th

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Clem Cole
Bill, You probably need to date things a little and get a some perspective of where a few of us are coming. Just to set a few lines in the sand. While 3Mb/s "xerox" ethernet has been around for about 5 years, the DEC/Intel/Xerox Ethernet 10Mb/s spec was published Sep 30, 1980. Per RFC 801, Ar

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: > > What I meant was that I remember on early PCs using an rs232-c line for using > the old BBSes and compuserve before it was an ISP. 10 cents a minute. I had > several modems 300, 1200 and 2400 baud modems. > > These even older mac

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Anders Magnusson wrote: > > Den 2016-03-12 kl. 17:45, skrev Clem Cole: >> FYI: CDC and Cray's often used HyperChannel adapters; but I suspect have >> long lost the info on it (very funky SW interface). Plus I doubt I still >> have the code we developed for it

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Richard Cornwell
Hi Bruce, Your email does not appear to be working. I have some questions, can you send me a private email? Thanks > > I assume you are referring to the DG MV (32-bit) systems - there were > several DG E'net controllers for the MVs. What is the board's 005- > model number or the name et

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Bill Cunningham
What I meant was that I remember on early PCs using an rs232-c line for using the old BBSes and compuserve before it was an ISP. 10 cents a minute. I had several modems 300, 1200 and 2400 baud modems. These even older machines may have had hookups within a company. Even one building connec

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Clem Cole
On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Anders Magnusson wrote: > DG-UX or MV/UX? > ​Which was the rewrite of System V ?? i.e. System V cmd system, but internally developed System V SMP kernel -- I want to say DG-UX maybe; but I'd been a long time and many beers ago - I've forgotten the name. I remem

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Bruce Ray
Yes. I assume you are referring to the DG MV (32-bit) systems - there were several DG E'net controllers for the MVs. What is the board's 005- model number or the name etched by the board's left extractor handle? Bruce On 3/12/2016 10:25 AM, Anders Magnusson wrote: Den 2016-03-12 kl. 17:4

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Anders Magnusson
Den 2016-03-12 kl. 17:45, skrev Clem Cole: FYI: CDC and Cray's often used HyperChannel adapters; but I suspect have long lost the info on it (very funky SW interface). Plus I doubt I still have the code we developed for it (the HyperChannel was the other side of the Tektronix TCP/IP for VMS i

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Clem Cole
FYI: CDC and Cray's often used HyperChannel adapters; but I suspect have long lost the info on it (very funky SW interface). Plus I doubt I still have the code we developed for it (the HyperChannel was the other side of the Tektronix TCP/IP for VMS implementation we did in the late 1970's). My m

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Bob Supnik wrote: > > ... > A number of systems of the early 70s (including the CDC 6600 and the XDS > Sigma) had one-off interfaces to ARPAnet, using specialized IMPs, but the > implementations are lost. CDC 60-bit mainframes also had a variety of communicatio

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Bob Supnik
The PDP-10 has networking as well. The H316/516 supports the IMP (interface message processor) used for ARPAnet. Network was only implemented on systems that were in active development past the mid 1970s, when commercial networking stacks like TCP/IP, DECnet, SNA, BNA, etc emerged. There's an

Re: [Simh] networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2016-03-12 15:01, Paul Koning wrote: On Mar 11, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: Are there any plans by the developers and maintainers to add networking support to any of the simulators that do not have it? AFAIK pdp11 and vax are the only two that have networking support.

Re: [Simh] networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 11, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: > > Are there any plans by the developers and maintainers to add networking > support to any of the simulators that do not have it? AFAIK pdp11 and vax are > the only two that have networking support. pdp10 does, also. It obviously de

[Simh] Announcing TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS

2016-03-12 Thread Johnny Billquist
Time for a new release announcement of TCP/IP for RSX-11M-PLUS. Several fixes and improvements have been made since the last announcement. Things that have been done since the last release: IP: - Bugfix: If a packet is received which have less data than the indicated length in the IP header, t

Re: [Simh] Mounting simh disk files in Linux

2016-03-12 Thread Joshua Overmiller
To everyone. Thanks for all the advice and help. I've gotten through the network issues and I'm using the NAT solution. Basically, I didn't RTFM closely enough and was using SIMH v3.90 assumptions during the build. (i.e. Don't use the USE_NETWORK flag on linux as it will call all libraries at r