Re: [Simh] VAX PSI

2020-03-19 Thread Paul Koning
I thought 2780 uses BISYNC, which is a different protocol. X.25 is HDLC. Yes, both need modem eliminators -- like an async null modem but an active device that also supplies the synchronous bit clock. X.25 (and I think HDLC) is indeed asymmetrical. Whether that can be gotten around is not en

Re: [Simh] VAX PSI

2020-03-19 Thread John Welsh
Hi Dave, I have been involved in a project using VAX-2780-3780PE and have been able to connect two VAX’s together using a Black Box Synchronous Modem Eliminator ( SME ). Product code: ME204A-F. No VAX PSI involved. Needed Decnet Plus and Wan drivers. Was able to test using a utility that comes

Re: [Simh] hp alternatives

2020-03-19 Thread Clem Cole
Here is a pointer to a number of different basics. https://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/basic.shtml It has been a while, but accept for the issue that Kevin mentioned of lacking the VMS (or TOPS) system services, I have used a couple of these run some old Vax/PDP-10/RSTS DEC Basic codes. Vint

Re: [Simh] hp alternatives

2020-03-19 Thread Dan Gahlinger
make it convert to python and I'm there Try: https://www.grammarly.com From: Simh on behalf of Kevin Handy Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 6:20:42 PM To: E J Jaquay Cc: Simh Subject: Re: [Simh] hp alternatives Porting VAX Basic... Sort of... I have a program

Re: [Simh] hp alternatives

2020-03-19 Thread Kevin Handy
Porting VAX Basic... Sort of... I have a program that does a bunch of the work to conovert VaxBasic to C++, but it doesn't do everything. There's a lot of stuff that just doesn't exist on other OS's, like the SMG, RMS, LBR, etc. https://github.com/khandy21yo/btran.git there are probably lots of

Re: [Simh] EXT :Re: EXT :Re: Mouse capture on VAXstation II/GPX (KA630) simulator V4.0-0 Current

2020-03-19 Thread Hittner, David T [US] (MS)
Well, the QVSS device is monocolor, so you shouldn’t see any color. The QDSS device was multicolor. If the “set cpu model= vaxstationgpx” seems to enable the qdss (multicolor) device instead of the qvss (monocolor) device, then you should be setting qdss (multicolor) capture, not qvss. Note that

Re: [Simh] EXT :Re: Mouse capture on VAXstation II/GPX (KA630) simulator V4.0-0 Current

2020-03-19 Thread Supratim Sanyal
Very interesting. With "qvss capture" below "cpu model", mouse now works (jumpy, but better than no mouse). Also, I am getting console replies at the top of the graphical desktop, and have lost color. Here's a screenshot. On 3/19/20 1:25 PM, Supratim Sanyal wrote: On 3/19/20 11:09 AM, Hittner,

Re: [Simh] EXT :Re: Mouse capture on VAXstation II/GPX (KA630) simulator V4.0-0 Current

2020-03-19 Thread Supratim Sanyal
On 3/19/20 11:09 AM, Hittner, David T [US] (MS) wrote: et cpu model=vaxstationgpx set qvss enable    ; if required – I think ‘set cpu model = vaxstationgpx’ does this implicitly set qvss capture Tried this sequence: set cpu model=vaxstationgpx set qvss enable set qvss

[Simh] VAX PSI

2020-03-19 Thread dave porter
I know almost nothing about VAX PSI, but I have a vague idea that even though X.25 is asymmetric and intended for DTE to DCE communication (i.e., your computer to the phone company's premises), it may be possible to coerce it into talking from one VAX to another (via null modem cable connecting

Re: [Simh] PAK for VAX P.S.I.

2020-03-19 Thread Peter Allan
Hi Mark, At first we just used PSI that talked to a DUP-11 in a VAX-11/780 and later a 750. The DUP-11 then talked to a modem, and thence to the JANET academic network in the UK. Later we used PSI-Access which talks directly to Ethernet. At least that is how it appeared to me. Your point about b

Re: [Simh] PAK for VAX P.S.I.

2020-03-19 Thread Robert G. Schffrath
On 3/19/20 11:21 AM, simh-requ...@trailing-edge.com wrote: VAX PSI was for X25, wasn't it? Wow, I have not heard of that package since the late 1980's. As I recall it replaced a physical "PAD" with a software defined one that ran under VMS and used an X.25 port to communicate. We had one run

Re: [Simh] hp alternatives

2020-03-19 Thread Dan Gahlinger
yeah I kinda doubt that. they don't work even close to the same I work code using indexed files and could even index off of arbitrary text in a comment field. I know of no other solution that can do this. its because vms was doing all the heavily lifting behind the scenes. I could do a read base

Re: [Simh] EXT :Re: Mouse capture on VAXstation II/GPX (KA630) simulator V4.0-0 Current

2020-03-19 Thread Hittner, David T [US] (MS)
Shouldn’t the configuration order be: set cpu model=vaxstationgpx set qvss enable; if required – I think ‘set cpu model = vaxstationgpx’ does this implicitly set qvss capture There may be some odd interaction if capture mode is enabled before setting vaxstationgpx. David

Re: [Simh] PAK for VAX P.S.I.

2020-03-19 Thread Bob Eager
VAX PSI was for X25, wasn't it? On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 07:21:45 -0700 Mark Pizzolato wrote: > Let's say you had the PAK(s). > > You could then install the software. Then what? > > That software connected through some hardware to something outside. > What hardware was this and what did it connect

[Simh] VMS Hobbyist Licenses

2020-03-19 Thread Robert Thomas
The potential real revenue stream from VAX users with hobbyist licenses is small, but HPE should be able to put a significant dollar value on the Good Will generated by issuing perpetual licenses. Historically the sales and marketing people at DEC, COMPAQ, HP and HPE have placed no value on cus

Re: [Simh] PAK for VAX P.S.I.

2020-03-19 Thread Mark Pizzolato
Let's say you had the PAK(s). You could then install the software. Then what? That software connected through some hardware to something outside. What hardware was this and what did it connect to? I'm pretty sure that the hardware in question isn't simulated primarily due to the fact that an

Re: [Simh] hp alternatives

2020-03-19 Thread E J Jaquay
I have been able to replace RMS indexed files with BerkelyDB without many issues so that is one alternative. Just have to replace I/O statements with functions that do the appropriate calls. On Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 20:10 Dan Gahlinger wrote: > is there a way to port vax basic? > please dont say v

[Simh] PAK for VAX P.S.I.

2020-03-19 Thread Peter Allan
Hi folks, Back in the day (mid to late 1980s), I was the system manager of a VAXcluster. I have been recreating the experience using simh, which I find to be excellent. My system manager days finished with VMS 5.5-2, although I also have emulated systems running both earlier and later versions of

Re: [Simh] Mouse capture on VAXstation II/GPX (KA630) simulator V4.0-0 Current

2020-03-19 Thread Supratim Sanyal
I built the latest SIMH microvax2 on FreeBSD and found the behavior is exactly identical on FreeBSD as well. The problem is not Linux specific. Any ideas? TIA Supratim --- Supratim Sanyal, W1XMT 39.19151 N, 77.23432 W QCOCAL::SANYAL via HECnet > On Mar 15, 2020, at 11:36 PM, Supratim Sanyal