Re: [Simh] Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program

2020-03-25 Thread Stafford Winters
I've never met Hunter, but I will say I've used MGLOGIN, replaced by HGLOGIN, and it has been very useful.  I've also used CONTRL, PEEK & SPY, and SUPERVISE.  All of these have worked without problems. In the early 90's, I did try to use WATCH a few times, but it seems like it generally

Re: [Simh] VMS Hobbyist Licenses

2020-03-25 Thread Johnny Billquist
Yes, of course. If not, how would you ever be able to enter a license? Console login can always be done. Johnny On 2020-03-25 23:10, Jonathan Welch wrote: I fired up my simh VMS system for the first time in a few weeks only to see I was getting expired license messages. Even with VAX-VMS

Re: [Simh] VMS Hobbyist Licenses

2020-03-25 Thread Jonathan Welch
I fired up my simh VMS system for the first time in a few weeks only to see I was getting expired license messages. Even with VAX-VMS expired I could log in with my own account to OPA0. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 10:29 AM Robert Thomas wrote: > The potential real revenue stream from VAX users with

Re: [Simh] Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program

2020-03-25 Thread Jonathan Welch
I fired up my simh VMS system and saw we have a watch.exe from 1995. As it needs another person to observe I couldn't use it in action. On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 11:44 AM Bob Eager wrote: > I just looked at the sources of the SPY program I have. > > It's quite small, and most of it is a driver in

Re: [Simh] Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program

2020-03-25 Thread Bob Eager
I just looked at the sources of the SPY program I have. It's quite small, and most of it is a driver in Macro-32. There are only two names in the sources - it says it's based on work by one, but written by another. The other is me - just shows how bad my memory is. Anyway, if anyone wants

[Simh] Re: Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program

2020-03-25 Thread Hunter Goatley
On 3/25/2020 10:03 AM, Hittner, David T [US] (MS) wrote: For a while, there was a company selling a SPY utility for VMS, as well as freebie versions floating around. The commercial version allowed the watcher to enter data in the watched session by using a special command sequence to enable

Re: [Simh] EXT :Re: Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program

2020-03-25 Thread Hittner, David T [US] (MS)
Oh no… management frequently asked VMS admins to ‘spy’ on general users for a few reasons back in the day, before the politically-correct era. - Make sure users were not defrauding the company [stealing inventory with illegal transactions, etc.] (without user consent) -

Re: [Simh] Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program

2020-03-25 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
Back in the late 1980's, my firm had a program called WATCH (binary is WATCHMAN.EXE) that allowed both passive and interactive monitoring of a terminal. In passive mode, you could see the activity on the specified line without any interaction (WATCH/NOINPUT). In interactive mode, you could

Re: [Simh] Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program

2020-03-25 Thread Dan Gahlinger
actually not so much. the docs say it was to log assignment work. but it was generally accepted that this tool should never be released because of the potential for abuse. now that vms is dead I figure it's probably safe. I doubt a smart phone camera pic of the printout will work, the quality

Re: [Simh] Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program

2020-03-25 Thread Robert Armstrong
>$ SET HOST/LOG will log your own session. This program logs someone else's >session. That’s true – I’m assuming the person being spied upon wants to be spied on. Bob ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com

Re: [Simh] Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program

2020-03-25 Thread Robert Armstrong
I've never heard of this particular program, but on VMS there's SET HOST/LOG which kinda sorta gives a similar result. In 1980 that might not have existed, but it's there in most "modern" VMS versions. Bob From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Supratim Sanyal

Re: [Simh] Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program

2020-03-25 Thread Bob Eager
I have another called SPY, which is in FORTRAN and Macro-32. It includes a loadable driver. I expect it's well known, but if not I'll make it available. On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 05:56:59 + Dan Gahlinger wrote: > I have a paper printout of a program called terspy.mar - which is a > terminal spy

Re: [Simh] Releasing terspy.mar - vax/vms terminal spy program

2020-03-25 Thread Supratim Sanyal
wouldn't taking pictures with a smart phone and running a OCR app work? supratim On 3/25/20 1:56 AM, Dan Gahlinger wrote: I have a paper printout of a program called terspy.mar - which is a terminal spy program for vax/vms it was written by Bob Vera, DEC, April 28, 1980 Don't know if