Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX

2017-01-03 Thread Lars Brinkhoff 
Al Kossow wrote:
> There's going to be a bunch more old stuff in the SRI-NIC tape backlog
> at CHM but I can't spend any time working on that right now.

It's great knowing there's more to come!

By the way, I occasionally dole out stuff I find here:
https://github.com/PDP-10/

All ITS applications are bundled into the "its" repository, but
occasional finds get their own.  There's MINITS, an MIT operating system
for PDP-11.  Also TRANTOR, which I transferred to one of its creators:

https://github.com/eak/trantor
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Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX

2017-01-03 Thread Al Kossow 
vague memory says 'Symbolics'

from Johnny's msg on cctlk

--

resulted in:

   0:737  000700,,670  34   0   0  33  " "
   1:  21f30  00,,4174600   0   4  37  30  " "
   2:  894e5ba78  422471,,335170  104 123 113  72  74  "DSK:<"
   3:  8d3e7ce8a  432371,,747212  106 117 117 116 105  "FOONE"
   4:  b0fa1c882  541750,,344202  130  76 103 110 101  "X>CHA"
   5:  9f4d74d82  476465,,646602  117 123  56 115 101  "OS.MA"
   6:  86ed9b972  415666,,334562  103  73  63  71  71  "C;399"
   7:  0  00,,000   0   0   0   0  " "

  [snip]

 777:  0  00,,000   0   0   0   0  " "
1000:  774e94374  356472,,241564   73 123 122 103  72  ";SRC:"
1001:  794ecd35c  362473,,151534   74 123 131 123  56  "CH"
1004:  833e9ae9a  406372,,327232  101 117 123  56 115  "AOS.M"
1005:  830d73372  406065,,631562  101 103  56  63  71  "AC.39"
1006:  6e810375a  335004,,033532   67  40  40  67  55  "7  7-"
1007:  9b87cad70  467037,,126560  115 141 171  55  70  "May-8"
1010:  62818b974  305006,,134564   61  40  61  71  72  "1 19:"
1011:  66d5d346c  315527,,232154   63  65  72  64  66  "35:46"
1012:  58822e4d2  261010,,562322   54  40 105 144 151  ", Edi"
1013:  e88317940  721014,,274500  164  40 142 171  40  "t by "
1014:  9b361cd1a  466330,,346432  115 115 103 115  15  "MMCM "

  [and so on]

Looks like a tape in core-dump format with a header page.


which looks MIT/Symbolics-ish

On 1/3/17 5:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, at 11:35, Al Kossow wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1/3/17 11:05 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
>>
 Do KI TENEX sources exist??
>>>
>>> Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34.
>>>
>>
>> I see that there are two tape images I've read from SCRC, one I read in
>> 2000
>> and one in 2008. They may be the same, just re-read, the second read is
>> four
>> megs longer than the first.
>>
>> I'll put them up for a couple of days under bits/Foonly on bitsavers.
>>
>>
>> There's going to be a bunch more old stuff in the SRI-NIC tape backlog at
>> CHM
>> but I can't spend any time working on that right now.
>>
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> Any ideas what the tape format is?
> 
> As-is neither DUMPER nor BACKUP will touch it.
> 

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Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX

2017-01-03 Thread Cory Smelosky 


On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, at 11:35, Al Kossow wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/3/17 11:05 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
> 
> >> Do KI TENEX sources exist??
> > 
> > Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34.
> > 
> 
> I see that there are two tape images I've read from SCRC, one I read in
> 2000
> and one in 2008. They may be the same, just re-read, the second read is
> four
> megs longer than the first.
> 
> I'll put them up for a couple of days under bits/Foonly on bitsavers.
> 
> 
> There's going to be a bunch more old stuff in the SRI-NIC tape backlog at
> CHM
> but I can't spend any time working on that right now.
> 
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Any ideas what the tape format is?

As-is neither DUMPER nor BACKUP will touch it.

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Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX

2017-01-03 Thread Richard Cornwell 
Hi Cory,

> I've built TENDMP as well - just need it written to disk ;)

  The TENDMP I have runs stand alone. It copies Core to dectape or
  dectape to core. It can be placed in the first block of a dectape to
  boot it.

Rich

> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jan 3, 2017, at 11:29, Richard Cornwell 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> >   I have a copy of tendmp.mac that I acquired off Saildart.org. It
> > is in my v1.19 git repo at http://git.sky-visions.com 
> > 
> >   I am currently trying to figure out why my KI10 sim will not boot
> >   TOPS10. It appears that is placing the high segment at the wrong
> >   address in SYSINI. It is off by 1 page. 
> > 
> >   v1.19 pretty much assembles and loads correctly. V4.5 will still
> > not assemble without errors. v1.19 still has some paging issues to
> > match the scanned sources exactly. Both are in my git repo. I will
> > add in 3.x when I get some more time.
> > 
> > Rich
> >   
> >> Phil Budne wrote:  
> >>> Rich Alderson wrote
>  I don't think anyone has bootable TENEX media.  It would be a
>  labor of love to try to cross-compile TENEX under TOPS-20 on a
>  Toad-2, then build a boot program for the KI that could read it
>  in from disk.
> >> 
> >> It seems Cory Smelosky has recently built a TENEX.SAV.  But now he
> >> needs TENDMP to boot it.
> >>   
> >>> Do KI TENEX sources exist??
> >> 
> >> Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34.
> >> 
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Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX

2017-01-03 Thread Cory Smelosky 
I've built TENDMP as well - just need it written to disk ;)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2017, at 11:29, Richard Cornwell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>   I have a copy of tendmp.mac that I acquired off Saildart.org. It is
>   in my v1.19 git repo at http://git.sky-visions.com 
> 
>   I am currently trying to figure out why my KI10 sim will not boot
>   TOPS10. It appears that is placing the high segment at the wrong
>   address in SYSINI. It is off by 1 page. 
> 
>   v1.19 pretty much assembles and loads correctly. V4.5 will still not
>   assemble without errors. v1.19 still has some paging issues to match
>   the scanned sources exactly. Both are in my git repo. I will add in
>   3.x when I get some more time.
> 
> Rich
> 
>> Phil Budne wrote:
>>> Rich Alderson wrote  
 I don't think anyone has bootable TENEX media.  It would be a labor
 of love to try to cross-compile TENEX under TOPS-20 on a Toad-2,
 then build a boot program for the KI that could read it in from
 disk.  
>> 
>> It seems Cory Smelosky has recently built a TENEX.SAV.  But now he
>> needs TENDMP to boot it.
>> 
>>> Do KI TENEX sources exist??  
>> 
>> Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34.
>> 
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Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX

2017-01-03 Thread Al Kossow 


On 1/3/17 11:05 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:

>> Do KI TENEX sources exist??
> 
> Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34.
> 

I see that there are two tape images I've read from SCRC, one I read in 2000
and one in 2008. They may be the same, just re-read, the second read is four
megs longer than the first.

I'll put them up for a couple of days under bits/Foonly on bitsavers.


There's going to be a bunch more old stuff in the SRI-NIC tape backlog at CHM
but I can't spend any time working on that right now.


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Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX

2017-01-03 Thread Cory Smelosky 
Not that successful, sadly.

I forget who precisely but they had a tarball containing a binary - just kept 
forgetting to make it known.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2017, at 11:05, Lars Brinkhoff  wrote:
> 
> Phil Budne wrote:
>> Rich Alderson wrote
>>> I don't think anyone has bootable TENEX media.  It would be a labor
>>> of love to try to cross-compile TENEX under TOPS-20 on a Toad-2, then
>>> build a boot program for the KI that could read it in from disk.
> 
> It seems Cory Smelosky has recently built a TENEX.SAV.  But now he needs
> TENDMP to boot it.
> 
>> Do KI TENEX sources exist??
> 
> Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34.
> 
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Re: [Simh] PDP-10 simulation: TENEX

2017-01-03 Thread Lars Brinkhoff 
Phil Budne wrote:
> Rich Alderson wrote
>> I don't think anyone has bootable TENEX media.  It would be a labor
>> of love to try to cross-compile TENEX under TOPS-20 on a Toad-2, then
>> build a boot program for the KI that could read it in from disk.

It seems Cory Smelosky has recently built a TENEX.SAV.  But now he needs
TENDMP to boot it.

> Do KI TENEX sources exist??

Yes, see KIFLG in version 1.34.

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