Re: [Simh] OpenBSD on Simh VAX 3.8-1 - Segmentation fault

2017-11-07 Thread Mark Pizzolato
Hi Gary, On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 5:29 AM, Gary Lee Phillips wrote: > I am running VAX 3.8-1 on a 64-bit Linux system. It performs well > with OpenVMS as the operating system. But when I try to run it > with OpenBSD 5.7 there are issues. > > The base system installs and boots correctly.

Re: [Simh] DEC Net for DOS and the product on an emulated PDP-11 OS

2017-11-07 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello! What about it? On my system it looks for the tell tales that are found on the currently popular virtualization flags found on both Intel and AMD processors, and crashes when it can't find them. It wants me to find them in the BIOS. I tried to do that eight years ago this weekend, when the

Re: [Simh] Networking help with 4.3 BSD Quasijarus running on SimH microvax

2017-11-07 Thread Kenneth Seefried
>>* (I honestly fail to understand why anyone would ever want to deal with *>* Quasijaurus... And I haven't seen anything from Solokov in about 15 years *>* or so now, is he still working on it?) *> To be fair, it's not the worst place to start if one wants to see how things were in the Before

Re: [Simh] DEC Net for DOS and the product on an emulated PDP-11 OS

2017-11-07 Thread Ray Jewhurst
What about VirtualBox? I would love to shadow you in this project, but I don't have access to Beware. Thanks Ray On Nov 7, 2017 10:43 PM, "Gregg Levine" wrote: > Hello! > Probably a VM, but that's as far as I've gotten. It really depends on > how the software reacts to

[Simh] TE16 CRC Errors

2017-11-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/07/2017 07:36 PM, simh-requ...@trailing-edge.com wrote: In RSX land, only M+ supported mixed massbus, as you mention. Not sure when/if VMS did. Not sure how much of anything else that might have supported it either. I am pretty sure VMS would permit such a configuration, but it would

Re: [Simh] DEC Net for DOS and the product on an emulated PDP-11 OS

2017-11-07 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello! Probably a VM, but that's as far as I've gotten. It really depends on how the software reacts to running inside it. Some of the surviving examples of software we have available just won't run inside VirtualPC for example, but will just barely do so inside VMWare. - Gregg C Levine

Re: [Simh] DEC Net for DOS and the product on an emulated PDP-11 OS

2017-11-07 Thread Ray Jewhurst
I am very curious about this project. Are you going to be using an actual DOS computer or are you using a VM or emulator? I wonder if it would be possible to run it on FreeDOS? Thanks Ray On Nov 7, 2017 9:57 PM, "Gregg Levine" wrote: > Hello! > Has anyone succeeded in

[Simh] DEC Net for DOS and the product on an emulated PDP-11 OS

2017-11-07 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello! Has anyone succeeded in getting the DECNet for DOS products available from I believe Bitsavers, to communicate with a PDP-11 instance running an appropriate OS with the equally appropriate example of DECNet installed on it? I'm busy spooling up for a big project for the Winter and am

Re: [Simh] Attach tar to tape device and access it from v7 in simh

2017-11-07 Thread khandy21yo
Does V7 require a special version, or can you just download less from gnu.org? Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Mark Abene Date: 11/7/17 6:46 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Will Senn Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Simh] Attach tar to tape device and access it from v7 in simh

2017-11-07 Thread Mark Abene
I personally don't recall there ever being a less for v7. more, ex, vi, and csh were on a tape image of UCB tools, if you can find that. -Mark On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Will Senn wrote: > On 11/7/17 2:45 PM, Clem Cole wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:37 PM,

Re: [Simh] TE16 CRC Errors

2017-11-07 Thread Larry Baker
Peter, I answered my own question. The VAX/VMS Version 1.6 SPD (http://www.bitsavers.org/www.computer.museum.uq.edu.au/pdf/AE-C770D-TE%20VAX-VMS%20Operating%20System,%20Version%201.6%20SPD%2025.1.4.pdf) specifically states Mixed-MASSBUS configurations were supported: NOTE: MASSBUS disk

Re: [Simh] TE16 CRC Errors

2017-11-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2017-11-08 01:54, Paul Koning wrote: On Nov 7, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Johnny Billquist > wrote: I actually don't think he has a mixed massbus. I don't think you could even configure simh for this. Simh have a very simplistic view on hardware

Re: [Simh] TE16 CRC Errors

2017-11-07 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 7, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > I actually don't think he has a mixed massbus. I don't think you could even > configure simh for this. Simh have a very simplistic view on hardware > configurations. > You don't configure massbuses, and put devices on

Re: [Simh] TE16 CRC Errors

2017-11-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
I actually don't think he has a mixed massbus. I don't think you could even configure simh for this. Simh have a very simplistic view on hardware configurations. You don't configure massbuses, and put devices on them. You normally just configure the devices, and all the bus and controller

[Simh] TE16 CRC Errors

2017-11-07 Thread Larry Baker
Peter, My reading of your hardware setup sounds like what was called a "Mixed-MASSBUS" configuration, that is, mixing disks and tapes on the same MASSBUS. PDP-11 RSX-11M-Plus supported Mixed-MASSBUS. We dual-ported all our disks and used the MASSBUS that came with our tape drives that way.

Re: [Simh] Attach tar to tape device and access it from v7 in simh

2017-11-07 Thread Will Senn
Brilliant. Thanks for the reminder. It's all crystal clear to me now :). Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > Repeat after me: tapes are not streams of bytes. See Clem's response for more > detail. :-) > > Johnny > >> On 2017-11-07

Re: [Simh] Attach tar to tape device and access it from v7 in simh

2017-11-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
Repeat after me: tapes are not streams of bytes. See Clem's response for more detail. :-) Johnny On 2017-11-07 20:58, Will Senn wrote: Hi, I think I may have asked this a couple of years ago, but I am unable to find the email conversation, so I'll ask it again from a position of

Re: [Simh] Attach tar to tape device and access it from v7 in simh

2017-11-07 Thread Clem Cole
The original V7 tar was not quite graceful about directories and that image was probably not written by an original V7 system. The directory issues were fixed quickly. You need a new tar, such as the one from 2BSD to read that tape without error messages, although I suspect the original will

Re: [Simh] Attach tar to tape device and access it from v7 in simh

2017-11-07 Thread Will Senn
On 11/7/17 2:45 PM, Clem Cole wrote: On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Clem Cole > wrote: You need to convert the foo.tar file to a foo.tap before simh's mag tape reader will understand it. ​1.) ​ gunzip 1bsd.tar.gz 2 ​.) enblock <1bsd.tar >

Re: [Simh] Simh Digest, Vol 166, Issue 12

2017-11-07 Thread Peter Allan
In order to try to understand why I am having trouble reading a simulated tape with a simulated TE16 tape drive on a simh VAX 780, I have tried several configurations. Firstly, a point of clarification. The problem that I came across was in finishing the installation of VMS 3.0. This was

Re: [Simh] Attach tar to tape device and access it from v7 in simh

2017-11-07 Thread Clem Cole
On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Clem Cole wrote: > You need to convert the foo.tar file to a foo.tap before simh's mag tape > reader will understand it. > ​1.) ​ gunzip 1bsd.tar.gz 2 ​.) enblock <1bsd.tar > ​1bsd .tap ​ ​3.) ​in simh:att mt0 1bsd.tap ​4.) in unix: ​tar vxfb

Re: [Simh] Attach tar to tape device and access it from v7 in simh

2017-11-07 Thread Clem Cole
You need to convert the foo.tar file to a foo.tap before simh's mag tape reader will understand it. If you want to skip that step, attach the foo.tar (or foo.tar.gz) file as a virtual disk. The open it as a raw device. Clem On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Will Senn wrote:

[Simh] Attach tar to tape device and access it from v7 in simh

2017-11-07 Thread Will Senn
Hi, I think I may have asked this a couple of years ago, but I am unable to find the email conversation, so I'll ask it again from a position of experience and greater but still lacking knowledge... here's the background - I am running a v7 instance in simh that I am quite pleased with.

Re: [Simh] Networking help with 4.3 BSD Quasijarus running on SimH microvax

2017-11-07 Thread Zachary Kline
This may be an obvious question, but is your Mac connected via Wi-Fi? If so, you’re going to have problems using the default networking. I tried to do this several years ago, and never found a totally satisfactory solution. I figured it was worth checking, because if this doesn’t work nothing

Re: [Simh] set cpu idle not working?

2017-11-07 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:37 PM, Will Senn wrote: > > Oops, found it in the manual: > The CPU is considered idle if a WAIT instruction is executed. This will work > for RSTS/E and RSX-11M+, but not for RT-11 or UNIX. > > So, not unix, bummer. > > Will You could extend the

[Simh] OpenBSD on Simh VAX 3.8-1 - Segmentation fault

2017-11-07 Thread Gary Lee Phillips
I am running VAX 3.8-1 on a 64-bit Linux system. It performs well with OpenVMS as the operating system. But when I try to run it with OpenBSD 5.7 there are issues. The base system installs and boots correctly. But in order to bring in tools such as language compilers or editors, it is necessary