On 2018-02-25 02:41, Paul Koning wrote:
On Feb 24, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2018-02-24 17:21, Paul Koning wrote:
On Feb 23, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
...
Yes. But what difference does that make on the server side? The fact that the
requested image is sm
> On Feb 24, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
> On 2018-02-24 17:21, Paul Koning wrote:
>>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> ...
>>> Yes. But what difference does that make on the server side? The fact that
>>> the requested image is small enough to fit into
On 2018-02-24 17:21, Paul Koning wrote:
On Feb 23, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2018-02-24 01:56, Paul Koning wrote:
On Feb 23, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
...
That's why a MOP load normally consists of asking for a program - which is the
secondary loader
> On Feb 23, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
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>
>
> On 2018-02-24 01:56, Paul Koning wrote:
>>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
That's why a MOP load normally consists of asking for a program - which is
the secondary loader. It's the s
On 23-Feb-18 19:56, Paul Koning wrote:
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>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>> That's why a MOP load normally consists of asking for a program - which is
>>> the secondary loader. It's the secondary (or tertiary) loader that knows
>>> how to unpack an image and
On 2018-02-24 01:56, Paul Koning wrote:
On Feb 23, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
...
That's why a MOP load normally consists of asking for a program - which is the
secondary loader. It's the secondary (or tertiary) loader that knows how to
unpack an image and make additiona
> On Feb 23, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
> ...
>> That's why a MOP load normally consists of asking for a program - which is
>> the secondary loader. It's the secondary (or tertiary) loader that knows
>> how to unpack an image and make additional requests.
>
> Hum. Well, tha
07:53, Tim Stark wrote:
Johnny,
Oh, I now got it. I mean SYS specs, not MOP specs. Is that TIN program
available?
Thanks,
Tim
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From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:31 AM
To:simh@trailing-edge.c
e:
Johnny,
Oh, I now got it. I mean SYS specs, not MOP specs. Is that TIN program
available?
Thanks,
Tim
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From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:31 AM
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject:
sage-
> From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Johnny
> Billquist
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:31 AM
> To: simh@trailing-edge.com
> Subject: Re: [Simh] MOP header specs?
>
> On 2018-02-21 04:13, Tim Stark wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> Doe
: [Simh] MOP header specs?
On 2018-02-21 04:13, Tim Stark wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Does anyone know any documentation provides some information about MOP
> header in SYS files?
MOP headers no. But if you are referring to the .SYS files DEC distributed for
things like DEC servers, which boo
On 2018-02-21 04:13, Tim Stark wrote:
Folks,
Does anyone know any documentation provides some information about MOP
header in SYS files?
MOP headers no. But if you are referring to the .SYS files DEC
distributed for things like DEC servers, which booted over MOP, those
SYS files look like "
the beginning of EXE file directly
(zero offset).
Tim
From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Timothe Litt
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 11:20 AM
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: Re: [Simh] MOP header specs?
For VAX/Alpha code from VMS, .sys would be an
For VAX/Alpha code from VMS, .sys would be an executable linked
/NOHEADER. This would be a raw memory image; no ISDs or compression,
just bits.
In this case, it appears to be a SRM console image that was extracted
from an HP firmware update kit.
The header is used by the firmware update utility
Ok I figured out what is boot block in cl67srmrom.sys. There was no exe
version (only sys files) for SROM on some Alpha firmware iso files. I
checked other larger sys files with exe files are almost same boot block
for MOP loader. Exe files are raw binaries to can be loaded and run by
dummy simpl
On 21-Feb-18 09:32, Paul Koning wrote:
> MOP is a protocol, not a storage spec. The protocol is defined in
> detail, in the MOP architecture spec, which can be found in various
> collections of DECnet architecture specs.
>
Yes
> I assume a SYS file is a file meant to be downloaded by a MOP server
MOP is a protocol, not a storage spec. The protocol is defined in detail, in
the MOP architecture spec, which can be found in various collections of DECnet
architecture specs.
I assume a SYS file is a file meant to be downloaded by a MOP server on some
host. What the file contents means depen
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