Re: [singularity] Pernar's supergoal

2007-10-28 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
On 10/27/07, Stefan Pernar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Ben. As foundation of my AI friendliness theory I tried to figure out why we believe what good or bad is and came to the conclusion that humans, animals and even plants have evolved to perceive as good what is encoded into their

[singularity] Outsourced Brain

2007-10-28 Thread Joshua Fox
This is from a leading political columnist with no apparent link to transhumanism http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/26/opinion/26brooks.html It's funny that he has reached conclusions like I have melded my mind with the heavens, communed with the universal consciousness with respect to his

Re: Bright Green Tomorrow [WAS Re: [singularity] QUESTION]

2007-10-28 Thread Richard Loosemore
Matt Mahoney wrote: --- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Mahoney wrote: Suppose that the collective memories of all the humans make up only one billionth of your total memory, like one second of memory out of your human lifetime. Would it make much difference if it was erased

Re: [singularity] Outsourced Brain

2007-10-28 Thread stolzy
Interesting how people see in the same data what they are predisposed to. I ride the tongue-in-cheek mood of the essay till his last three paragraphs and then focus in upon the ironic conclusions, like where he equates narrowness to individualism, and subtly bemoans the attack on autonomy.

Re: Bright Green Tomorrow [WAS Re: [singularity] QUESTION]

2007-10-28 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My assumption is friendly AI under the CEV model. Currently, FAI is unsolved. CEV only defines the problem of friendliness, not a solution. As I understand it, CEV defines AI as friendly if on average it gives humans what they want in the

Re: [singularity] Pernar's supergoal

2007-10-28 Thread Stefan Pernar
On 10/28/07, Benjamin Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/27/07, Stefan Pernar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Ben. As foundation of my AI friendliness theory I tried to figure out why we believe what good or bad is and came to the conclusion that humans, animals and even plants

Re: [singularity] Question ... Singularity book ...

2007-10-28 Thread Pamela Lund
I'd be interested in reading a thoughtful point of view on the topics below, written for someone with a decent grasp of philosophy and science (like myself) but without subject matter expertise. I'd be less interested in an anthology of what others say and more interested in reading the