[singularity] Re: CEV

2007-10-27 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
On 10/27/07, Stefan Pernar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/27/07, Aleksei Riikonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to have a need to personally give a final answer to What is 'good'? -- an answer to what moral rules the universe should be governed by. If you think that your answer is better

[singularity] Re: CEV

2007-10-26 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
On 10/26/07, Stefan Pernar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/26/07, Aleksei Riikonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm quite convinced that what I would want, for example, is not circular. And I find it rather improbable that many of you other humans would end up in a loop either. So CEV

[singularity] Re: CEV

2007-10-26 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
one would need to define good first in order to set the CEV dynamic in motion, otherwise the AI would not be able to model a better me/humanity. Present questions to humans, construct models of the answers received. Nothing infeasible about this. -- Aleksei Riikonen - http://www.iki.fi/aleksei

[singularity] Re: CEV

2007-10-26 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
On 10/27/07, Stefan Pernar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/27/07, Aleksei Riikonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An AI implementing CEV doesn't question, is the thing that humans express that they ultimately want, 'good' or not. If it is what the humans really want, then it is done. No thinking

[singularity] Re: QUESTION

2007-10-22 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
. For an explanation of this, see: http://www.singinst.org/blog/2007/09/30/three-major-singularity-schools/ -- Aleksei Riikonen - http://www.iki.fi/aleksei - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member

[singularity] Re: Consciousness

2007-10-22 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
to assume that we will *never* be able to tell these things apart. It's conceivable that consciousness will one day be a very thoroughly understood physical phenomenon, and that it will be trivial to tell whether a system is conscious or not. -- Aleksei Riikonen - http://www.iki.fi/aleksei

[singularity] Re: QUESTION

2007-10-22 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
On 10/22/07, Charles D Hixson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aleksei Riikonen wrote: I think most of us would prefer potentially superhuman systems to not have goals/etc of their own. To me this sounds like wishing for a square circle. What we really want is that the goals, etc. of the AI

[singularity] Re: Summit coverage

2007-09-24 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
, The Chicago Tribune, Forbes, The Washington Post, The Sun Herald, The Miami Herald, etc. -- Aleksei Riikonen - http://www.iki.fi/aleksei - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id

[singularity] Re: Towards the Singularity

2007-09-07 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
will be rather nice instead. It is certainly possible in principle to create vastly nicer beings than humans. -- Aleksei Riikonen - http://www.iki.fi/aleksei - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member

[singularity] Re: Personal attacks

2007-05-28 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
Goertzel. -- Aleksei Riikonen - http://www.iki.fi/aleksei - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604user_secret=7d7fb4d8