Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-02-02 Thread Samantha Atkins
WTF does this have to do with AGI or Singularity? I hope the AGI gets here soon. We Stupid Monkeys get damn tiresome. - samantha On Jan 29, 2008, at 7:06 AM, gifting wrote: On 29 Jan 2008, at 14:13, Vladimir Nesov wrote: On Jan 29, 2008 11:49 AM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-02-02 Thread gifting
WTF (I can only assume what that stands for) are you such an angry person. Or is linear thinking the only possible solution for your VotW (guess what that stands for)? Never heard of rhizome (theory). Sometimes stupid monkey things for stupid monkeys like all of us and you are not that

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-02-02 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hi, Just a contextualizing note: this is the Singularity list not the AGI list so the scope of appropriate discussion is not so restricted. In my view, whacky models of the universe are at least moderately relevant to Singularity. After the Singularity, we are almost sure to discover that our

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-02-02 Thread Bryan Bishop
On Saturday 02 February 2008, Samantha Atkins wrote: I am not angry.  I am bored with what seems like endless often off   subject prattling going nowhere. Then go build something? - Bryan Bryan Bishop http://heybryan.org/ - This list is sponsored

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-01-29 Thread Ben Goertzel
OK, but why can't they all be dumped in a single 'normal' multiverse? If traveling between them is accommodated by 'decisions', there is a finite number of them for any given time, so it shouldn't pose structural problems. The whacko, speculative SF hypothesis is that lateral movement btw

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-01-29 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Jan 29, 2008 11:49 AM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, but why can't they all be dumped in a single 'normal' multiverse? If traveling between them is accommodated by 'decisions', there is a finite number of them for any given time, so it shouldn't pose structural problems.

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-01-29 Thread gifting
On 29 Jan 2008, at 14:13, Vladimir Nesov wrote: On Jan 29, 2008 11:49 AM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, but why can't they all be dumped in a single 'normal' multiverse? If traveling between them is accommodated by 'decisions', there is a finite number of them for any given time,

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-01-28 Thread Ben Goertzel
Can you define what you mean by decision more precisely, please? OK, but why can't they all be dumped in a single 'normal' multiverse? If traveling between them is accommodated by 'decisions', there is a finite number of them for any given time, so it shouldn't pose structural problems.

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-01-28 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Jan 28, 2008 2:17 PM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you define what you mean by decision more precisely, please? That's difficult, I don't have it formalized. Something like application of knowledge about the world, it's likely to end up an intelligence-definition-complete

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-01-27 Thread John K Clark
Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] we can think about a multi-multiverse, i.e. a collection of multiverses, with a certain probability distribution over them. A probability distribution of what? John K Clark - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-01-27 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Jan 27, 2008 9:29 PM, John K Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] we can think about a multi-multiverse, i.e. a collection of multiverses, with a certain probability distribution over them. A probability distribution of what? Exactly. It needs stressing that

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-01-27 Thread Ben Goertzel
On Jan 27, 2008 5:26 PM, Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 27, 2008 9:29 PM, John K Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] we can think about a multi-multiverse, i.e. a collection of multiverses, with a certain probability distribution over them.

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-01-27 Thread Ben Goertzel
Nesov wrote: Exactly. It needs stressing that probability is a tool for decision-making and it has no semantics when no decision enters the picture. ... What's it good for if it can't be used (= advance knowledge)? For other purposes we'd be better off with specially designed random

[singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-01-25 Thread Ben Goertzel
Fans of extremely weird and silly speculative pseudo-science ideas may appreciate my latest blog post, which posits a new model of the universe ;-_) http://www.goertzel.org/blog/blog.htm (A... after a day spent largely on various business- related hassles, the 30 minutes spent writing that

Re: [singularity] Multi-Multi-....-Multiverse

2008-01-25 Thread Bryan Bishop
On Friday 25 January 2008, Ben Goertzel wrote: Fans of extremely weird and silly speculative pseudo-science ideas may appreciate my latest blog post, which posits a new model of the universe ;-_) Interesting post. I wonder, are you familiar with cosmological natural selection and the likes of