Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
little experience with funding speculative technology ventures of the scale being discussed here. The dynamic is considerably, and rightly, more complicated than this. A truly compelling concept and a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee. J. Andrew Rogers

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
. Successfully doing this is far, far more difficult than I suspect most people who have not tried believe. J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/11983/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
that comports with reality. Over the years I have slowly come to believe that the long track record of failure in AI is a minor contributor to the relative dearth of funding for bold AI ventures -- the problem has never been a lack of people willing to take a risk per se. J. Andrew Rogers

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
, which may or may not reflect what they know. J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/11983/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/11983/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
does this have to do with the topic at hand? The problem is that investors lack any ability to discern a doughnut from a wedding cake. J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/11983/=now RSS Feed: http

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
On Apr 6, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Richard Loosemore wrote: J. Andrew Rogers wrote: The fact that the vast majority of AGI theory is pulled out of /dev/ ass notwithstanding, your above characterization would appear to reflect your limitations which you have chosen to project onto the broader

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
in the field (discounting cranks). For better or worse, you need to be a J. Hawkins or similar. Such is the world we live in. Cheers, J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/11983/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-04-06 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
to science is going to inform this process given the existing body of theoretical work, I would have no problem with the notion. My objections were pragmatic. Cheers, J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/11983

Re: [singularity] Vista/AGI

2008-03-16 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
have traditionally been written by small teams. J. Andrew Rogers --- singularity Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/11983/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/11983/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member

Re: [singularity] MindForth achieves True AI functionality

2008-02-02 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
On Feb 2, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Eric B. Ramsay wrote: I noticed that the members of the list have completely ignored this pronouncement by A.T. Murray. Is there a reason for this (for example is this person considered fringe or worse)? Bingo. J. Andrew Rogers - This list is sponsored

Re: [singularity] Convincing non-techie skeptics that the Singularity isn't total bunk

2006-10-24 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
On Oct 23, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Gregory Johnson wrote: I most certainly am not a proponent of the military industrial complex as opposed to the Japanese and German business models , but it is my sense that that is not where the world is headed at the moment. Huh? J. Andrew Rogers