Re: [Sip-implementors] When to use TCP and UDP for sip request

2009-09-27 Thread David Benoit
RFC 3261 clearly states that a failure of a transaction within a dialogue does not necessitate tear-down of the session. For example, if a re-INVITE fails, the session continues with the previously negotiated information. Only in the case of a 481 or a 408 should the dialogue be torn down. Out o

Re: [Sip-implementors] When to use TCP and UDP for sip request

2009-09-27 Thread Pranab Bohra
An example - An UAS will respond with 500 response when it receives out of order requests. This might result in session tear down. TCP handles OOO packets in a better way and won't let such situation occur. I think one would use TCP (i.e reliable L4 ) when SIP reliabilility alone is not enough. Th

Re: [Sip-implementors] When to use TCP and UDP for sip request

2009-09-26 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Sábado, 26 de Septiembre de 2009, Pranab Bohra escribió: > As > Abhishek mentioned, reliability is the concern here. I don't understand it. You are speaking about *network* level reliability (level 4) but since we are talking about SIP what we need is *application* level reliability (level 5)

Re: [Sip-implementors] When to use TCP and UDP for sip request

2009-09-25 Thread Pranab Bohra
hek Dhammawat > Aricent > > > -Original Message- > From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu > [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Kanta C > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:41 PM > To: Sip Server > Subject: [Sip-im

Re: [Sip-implementors] When to use TCP and UDP for sip request

2009-09-25 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 24 de Septiembre de 2009, Schwarz Albrecht escribió: > you missed the SCTP option as alternative to TCP Yes, but also note that SCTP doesn't exist in the real IP world yet... PS: Operators network (SMS = 0.25€ in 2009 year) is not what I mean "IP world". -- Iñaki Baz Castillo __

Re: [Sip-implementors] When to use TCP and UDP for sip request

2009-09-24 Thread Kanta C
Thanks everyone  Regards, Kinnu From: Schwarz Albrecht To: Abhishek Dhammawat ; Sip Server Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:59:36 PM Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] When to use TCP and UDP for sip request you missed the SCTP option as alternative

Re: [Sip-implementors] When to use TCP and UDP for sip request

2009-09-24 Thread Schwarz Albrecht
; To: Kanta C; Sip Server > Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] When to use TCP and UDP for > sip request > > Hi > > TCP should be use when reliability is required. > Also when dealing with large messages TCP should be used to > avoid fragmentation of the messages over UDP. >

Re: [Sip-implementors] When to use TCP and UDP for sip request

2009-09-24 Thread Abhishek Dhammawat
ntors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Kanta C Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:41 PM To: Sip Server Subject: [Sip-implementors] When to use TCP and UDP for sip request Hi All, Is there a rule for selecting the the transport layer protocol like when to use TCP or when to use UDP Rega

[Sip-implementors] When to use TCP and UDP for sip request

2009-09-24 Thread Kanta C
Hi All, Is there a rule for selecting the the transport layer protocol like when to use TCP or when to use UDP  Regards, Kinnu __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __