Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-23 Thread Andrew Gallagher
On 22/03/2021 22:02, Ryan Hunt wrote: However I’d like to see some efforts made towards:  - Rolling our SKS hacks back upstream with HP, initially this seems stupid but HP has already put in efforts to maintain compatibility with SKS peers.. I think a transitional SKS emulation mode that is

Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-23 Thread Martin Dobrev
I did this earlier for keyserver.dobrev.eu. On 23/03/2021 09:37, Andrew Gallagher wrote: > On 23/03/2021 09:19, Marcel Waldvogel wrote: >> How about instead of claiming to be "SKS", Hockeypuck servers just >> claim to be "Hockeypuck" (title case instead of lower case)? That >> would be kind of a

Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-23 Thread Andrew Gallagher
On 23/03/2021 09:19, Marcel Waldvogel wrote: How about instead of claiming to be "SKS", Hockeypuck servers just claim to be "Hockeypuck" (title case instead of lower case)? That would be kind of a "white(list) lie". They will have a red cell, but that will not preclude their Sounds good to

Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-23 Thread Marcel Waldvogel
pgpkeys.eu is in the pool, however, the "Software" table cell is red. Further investigation showed that they spell "sks" in lower case, unlike the real SKS. Verifying against the source code [1], the server selection code is a blacklist: "SKS" < 1.1.6, "GnuKS", and "hockeypuck" are blacklisted

Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-22 Thread Philihp Busby
I think (c) is fine to keep the pool alive. This community has a devout adherence to a tradition of inaction. I'm not holding my breath for (b), but I would be delighted if someone did more than just talk about it. I hold that switching to hkps://keys.openpgp.org is the path forward, and we

Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-22 Thread Ryan Hunt
In addition I’ve got an interesting story, last time I seen the SKS keyserver pool mentioned outside this group was recently when I got acquired by one of the Linux Distros and one of the first steps they wanted all of us to do was create PGP keys off our old corp email and submit em to the SKS

Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-22 Thread Ryan Hunt
On my Mac here the GPG Keychain app now defaults to hkps://keys.openpgp.org , Ubuntu is using their own HP servers now that are not joining the pool, and these searches on Github is a bit depressing, lots of commits setting the same server as default and/or removing the SKS pool:

Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-22 Thread Martin Dobrev
On 22/03/2021 22:02, Ryan Hunt wrote: I concur with the rest of the sentiment, I think its time to start accepting HP as a replacement for SKS.. If the sks-pool will not recognize the value of HP servers I suppose our only recourse is to fake it for the time being. However I’d like to see

Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-22 Thread Ryan Hunt
I concur with the rest of the sentiment, I think its time to start accepting HP as a replacement for SKS.. If the sks-pool will not recognize the value of HP servers I suppose our only recourse is to fake it for the time being. However I’d like to see some efforts made towards: - Rolling our

Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-22 Thread Andrew Gallagher
On 22/03/2021 20:10, Martin Dobrev wrote: c) We agree that Hockeypuck lying to be SKS is accepted in the pool, and maybe even recommended. I would favor (c), plus keeping the version number in the 2.x range, so that experts still can tell the difference. I'm already doing c) if I want to

Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-22 Thread Andreas Puls
Am 22.03.2021 um 20:41 schrieb Marcel Waldvogel: On Sun, 2021-03-21 at 22:56 +0100, Andreas Puls wrote: I've created now a patch that just replaces in the json export contact with server_contact and Total with numkeys.

Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-22 Thread Martin Dobrev
On 22/03/2021 19:41, Marcel Waldvogel wrote: On Sun, 2021-03-21 at 22:56 +0100, Andreas Puls wrote: I've created now a patch that just replaces in the json export contact with server_contact and Total with numkeys.

Re: Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-22 Thread Gabor Kiss
On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, Marcel Waldvogel wrote: > a) We leave it as is, Hockeypuck is fine, but just not in the pool. > b) We create a second pool, where Hockeypuck is acceptable (and > probably SKS as well). > c) We agree that Hockeypuck lying to be SKS is accepted in the pool, > and maybe even

Lying about Hockeypuck being SKS?

2021-03-22 Thread Marcel Waldvogel
On Sun, 2021-03-21 at 22:56 +0100, Andreas Puls wrote: > > I've created now a patch that just replaces in the json export > contact > with server_contact and Total with numkeys. > https://github.com/apuls/hockeypuck/commit/34fbdfcf73b60e6001f3770b86d8750d1c8b5385 Great, thanks! I just merged