Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-24 Thread Franzen
On 23.10.2016 12:36, Andrzej Telszewski wrote: On 23/10/16 01:56, Christoph Willing wrote: Who is going to decide REQUIRED vs OPTIONAL for the many (I suspect) non obvious cases? Presumably the maintainer. If a maintainer's balance of REQUIRED/OPTIONAL deps doesn't suit someone else's

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-23 Thread Andrzej Telszewski
On 23/10/16 01:56, Christoph Willing wrote: Who is going to decide REQUIRED vs OPTIONAL for the many (I suspect) non obvious cases? Presumably the maintainer. If a maintainer's balance of REQUIRED/OPTIONAL deps doesn't suit someone else's particular needs/wants, then the builder will have to

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-22 Thread Willy Sudiarto Raharjo
> I just wanted to talk about an ~OPTIONAL tag in *.nfo > for better organized optional dependencies than checking > each time the README. I'm not trying to force anyone, > just wanted to discuss this. > > Something like CONFLICTS in *.nfo could be a good thing > too, or not? > >

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-22 Thread Thomas Szteliga
On 10/23/2016 03:08 AM, King Beowulf wrote: > Some of you will just have to do some real work on your own. > For example, MOST of the slackbuilds I pull from SBo for my use are > customized. Perhaps I need a non-default function, or to drop a > function/dependency I can live without. I'm not

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-22 Thread King Beowulf
On 10/22/2016 04:56 PM, Christoph Willing wrote: > On 23/10/16 09:26, Thomas Szteliga wrote: >> On 10/22/2016 07:28 PM, Andrzej Telszewski wrote: >>> Something that is not required, shouldn't be flagged as required as long >>> as it makes sense. >>> But your proposal to forcibly disable building

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-22 Thread King Beowulf
On 10/22/2016 05:17 PM, Thomas Szteliga wrote: > Just a short review: > > http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/BooleanDependencies > > "Requires, Recommends, Suggests, Supplements, Enhances, Conflicts" > > > > Weak dependencies > > In addition to the strong dependencies created by

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-22 Thread Thomas Szteliga
Just a short review: http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/BooleanDependencies "Requires, Recommends, Suggests, Supplements, Enhances, Conflicts" Weak dependencies In addition to the strong dependencies created by Requires, there are 4 dependencies that are completely ignored by rpm

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-22 Thread Thomas Szteliga
On 10/23/2016 01:56 AM, Christoph Willing wrote: > Who is going to decide REQUIRED vs OPTIONAL for the many (I suspect) non > obvious cases? Presumably the maintainer. If a maintainer's balance of > REQUIRED/OPTIONAL deps doesn't suit someone else's particular > needs/wants, then the builder will

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-22 Thread Christoph Willing
On 23/10/16 09:26, Thomas Szteliga wrote: On 10/22/2016 07:28 PM, Andrzej Telszewski wrote: Something that is not required, shouldn't be flagged as required as long as it makes sense. But your proposal to forcibly disable building against usbredir is viable. If it solves your problem, then ask

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-22 Thread Thomas Szteliga
On 10/22/2016 07:28 PM, Andrzej Telszewski wrote: > Something that is not required, shouldn't be flagged as required as long > as it makes sense. > But your proposal to forcibly disable building against usbredir is viable. > If it solves your problem, then ask the maintainer to add it. > You can

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-22 Thread Andrzej Telszewski
On 22/10/16 14:33, Thomas Szteliga wrote: On 10/22/2016 09:39 AM, King Beowulf wrote: qemu README already mentions spice and usbredir as optional dependencies. spice-gtk README also mentions usbredir as an optional dependency. Perhaps a more precise wording can ovoid confusion. I suggest that

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-22 Thread Thomas Szteliga
On 10/22/2016 09:39 AM, King Beowulf wrote: > qemu README already mentions spice and usbredir as optional > dependencies. spice-gtk README also mentions usbredir as an optional > dependency. Perhaps a more precise wording can ovoid confusion. > I suggest that the OP should assume that an optional

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-22 Thread King Beowulf
On 10/19/2016 11:50 PM, Willy Sudiarto Raharjo wrote: >> Maybe the *.nfo files should be extended by listing optional >> dependencies, so we could handle these an automated way? > > NO > REQUIRES in .info should only be used for mandatory dependencies, not > optional dependencies. > >> Another

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-20 Thread Willy Sudiarto Raharjo
> Maybe the *.nfo files should be extended by listing optional > dependencies, so we could handle these an automated way? NO REQUIRES in .info should only be used for mandatory dependencies, not optional dependencies. > Another subject are dependencies required only during build-time > vss

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-19 Thread Thomas Szteliga
On 10/20/2016 01:23 AM, King Beowulf wrote: > Usbredir is not a "hard" dependency that prevents qemu from compiling. > Rather, it is an optional dependency to add functionality. This is > mentioned in the README. I'm aware, but without usbredir virt-manager becomes kind of unusable. I remember

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-19 Thread King Beowulf
On 10/19/2016 03:26 PM, Thomas Szteliga wrote: > Hello, > > shouldn't usbredir be listed in REQUIRES of QEMU and spice-gtk? > > Because when QEMU is compiled without usbredir present > (autodetected during compilation) virt-install usage will > be problematic or even impossible. > > ---

[Slackbuilds-users] qemu/spice-gtk and usbredir

2016-10-19 Thread Thomas Szteliga
Hello, shouldn't usbredir be listed in REQUIRES of QEMU and spice-gtk? Because when QEMU is compiled without usbredir present (autodetected during compilation) virt-install usage will be problematic or even impossible. This won't work without usbredir: # virt-install \ --connect