Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[Jheengut Pritvi]

I Still love it

On 29 March 2017 at 21:18, Matteo Bernardini
 wrote:
> 2017-03-29 19:03 GMT+02:00 King Beowulf :
>> "So let it be written. So let it be done."
>
> isn't that a quote from "Creeping Death"?
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[Matteo Bernardini]

2017-03-29 20:10 GMT+02:00 King Beowulf :
> On 03/29/2017 10:18 AM, Matteo Bernardini wrote:
>> 2017-03-29 19:03 GMT+02:00 King Beowulf :
>>> "So let it be written. So let it be done."
>>
>> isn't that a quote from "Creeping Death"?
>>
>
> Dang kids these days don't know their cinematic history:
>
> https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Ten_Commandments_%281956_film%29
>
> https://youtu.be/h4emcNAf5lY

in my defense I can say that I saw it but in Italian when I was 10. :D

well, I think today I learned that James Hetfield love to use Yul
Brynner quotes in his lyrics ;)
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[King Beowulf]

On 03/29/2017 10:18 AM, Matteo Bernardini wrote:
> 2017-03-29 19:03 GMT+02:00 King Beowulf :
>> "So let it be written. So let it be done."
> 
> isn't that a quote from "Creeping Death"?
>

Dang kids these days don't know their cinematic history:

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Ten_Commandments_%281956_film%29

https://youtu.be/h4emcNAf5lY

-Ed





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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[Matteo Bernardini]

2017-03-29 19:03 GMT+02:00 King Beowulf :
> "So let it be written. So let it be done."

isn't that a quote from "Creeping Death"?
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[King Beowulf]

On 03/27/2017 04:35 PM, David Spencer wrote:
>> Could we hold off on this for all nvidia-* scripts?  The current design,
>> and Nvidia's habit of moving, adding, and renaming libs will cause a lot
>> of failures and thus bug reports.  I'd rather have a script fail than
>> have it create a package that might bugger of someone's system.
> 
> I've got a lot of sympathy with this. When there are multiple binary
> downloads or git snapshots, simply setting VERSION is not going to
> work. So, unless another admin tells me I'm wrong, I'd say you are
> welcome to use a fixed VERSION for the nvidia scripts. And I'm happy
> to consider the same from other maintainers for other special cases.
> 

"So let it be written. So let it be done."

-Ed




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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[David Spencer]

> Could we hold off on this for all nvidia-* scripts?  The current design,
> and Nvidia's habit of moving, adding, and renaming libs will cause a lot
> of failures and thus bug reports.  I'd rather have a script fail than
> have it create a package that might bugger of someone's system.

I've got a lot of sympathy with this. When there are multiple binary
downloads or git snapshots, simply setting VERSION is not going to
work. So, unless another admin tells me I'm wrong, I'd say you are
welcome to use a fixed VERSION for the nvidia scripts. And I'm happy
to consider the same from other maintainers for other special cases.

Thanks
-D.
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[King Beowulf]

On 03/25/2017 07:50 PM, David Spencer wrote:

> 
> * Allow VERSION override
> 
> It should be possible to try to run the SlackBuild script with a
> different version, for example 'VERSION=1.2.3 ./script.SlackBuild'
> But some really old scripts had never been updated to support this
> properly, so we finally got round to fixing them.
> 

Could we hold off on this for all nvidia-* scripts?  The current design,
and Nvidia's habit of moving, adding, and renaming libs will cause a lot
of failures and thus bug reports.  I'd rather have a script fail than
have it create a package that might bugger of someone's system.

Thanks
Ed




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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[Panagiotis Nikolaou]

>>> always possible that we have broken something, so please let us know if
>>> you find any problems
>> Hi!,
>>
>> gqrx-sdr missing gnuradio as a dependency...
> gnuradio is second level dep of gqrx-sdr since it's a first level dep of
> gr-osmosdr
>
>
Yes exactly!
Sorry for the noise...:(
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[Willy Sudiarto Raharjo]

>> always possible that we have broken something, so please let us know if
>> you find any problems
> Hi!,
> 
> gqrx-sdr missing gnuradio as a dependency...

gnuradio is second level dep of gqrx-sdr since it's a first level dep of
gr-osmosdr


-- 
Willy Sudiarto Raharjo



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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[David Spencer]

> gqrx-sdr missing gnuradio as a dependency...
>
> Thanks!

Hi!
Done :D
Thanks for the update
-D.
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[Panagiotis Nikolaou]

> It is
> always possible that we have broken something, so please let us know if
> you find any problems
Hi!,

gqrx-sdr missing gnuradio as a dependency...

Thanks!


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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[B Watson]

On 3/26/17, Didier Spaier  wrote:

>   find /usr/share/applications -name "*.desktop" -exec desktop-file-validate
> '{}' ';'
> show that some .desktop files also need attention in the distribution
> itself.

Very true. Pat's philosophy is to let upstream worry about it... but,
the .desktop files I'm talking about aren't from 'upstream', they're the
ones included in the SBo repo, written by SBo maintainers (or possibly
borrowed from other distros). The ones that are checked into SBo git,
not ones that come from the source download.

For .desktop files that do come from upstream (part of the source tarball,
get installed via 'make install'), I personally prefer to patch or sed
them to make them validate. But if someone wants to follow the 'let
upstream fix their .desktop file' approach, there's nothing wrong with
that either.

Although, if upstream's .desktop file is so broken that the application
doesn't appear in the KDE/XFCE menus, or does appear but won't run from
the menu, IMO it should be patched by the SBo maintainer (and the patch
sent to upstream also). This case is no different from a C source file
that won't compile, really. It's a maintainer's job to turn the source
into a package that works well on Slackware, and for most people,
being unable to launch the app from the standard menu counts as "not
working well".

Sorry, that turned into a rant, I didn't really intend it to.
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[Didier Spaier]

Le 26/03/2017 à 15:28, B Watson a écrit :
> ...and the desktop-file-validate command is your friend :)

I don't have a Slackware-current at hand, but running
  find /usr/share/applications -name "*.desktop" -exec desktop-file-validate 
'{}' ';'
show that some .desktop files also need attention in the distribution itself.

Didier
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[B Watson]

On 3/26/17, Petar Petrov  wrote:

> Are there some new rules about .desktop files? I have not been
> following the mailing list lately, so I may have missed sth...

The rules about .desktop files aren't new, they've been here all along:

https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/1.0/

https://specifications.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/1.0/

...and the desktop-file-validate command is your friend :)

For what it's worth, I'm working on a template.desktop which can be
edited to fit, like the other templates.
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[Petar Petrov]

nevermind my previous email, i just found the second email by idlemoor...

2017-03-26 5:50 GMT+03:00 David Spencer :
> Ok, I'm going to explain some of the small fixes we just made, but you
> are welcome to delete this email if you're not interested.
>
> 
>
> * Make .desktop validate
>
> freedesktop.org has standards for .desktop files and a validator. We
> have run the validator on all the .desktop files in our repository and
> fixed the problems it reported.
>
> * Allow VERSION override
>
> It should be possible to try to run the SlackBuild script with a
> different version, for example 'VERSION=1.2.3 ./script.SlackBuild'
> But some really old scripts had never been updated to support this
> properly, so we finally got round to fixing them.
>
> * i486=>i586
>
> We are slowly changing to build with Slackware 14.2's i586 flags, but it
> is not a high priority, so normally we just do this whenever we are
> changing the script for some other reason.
>
> * Remove template comments
>
> We like to have comments for anything unusual in a script, but the
> comments in the templates are really just to explain how things work the
> first time you create a script. Otherwise they are just unhelpful noise.
>
> * Fix shebang
>
> SlackBuild scripts normally start with '#!/bin/sh'.
> Don't use '#!/bin/bash' unless the script really needs to be bash
> (this is almost never necessary).
> Don't use '#!/bin/sh -e', because '-e' won't work when the script is
> invoked with 'sh ./script.SlackBuild' or 'bash ./script.SlackBuild'
>
> * Fix slack-desc
> * Fix .info
>
> We have removed unnecessary whitespace in the slack-desc and .info
> files, because occasionally this can cause problems for automated tools.
> Also we have made sure that all the slack-desc files have the same
> formatting comments at the beginning, because there are people who can't
> count to 11 and don't understand how to use the handy-ruler :(
>
> * TAG and PRGNAM
>
> We've made sure that these variables are defined consistently in all the
> scripts.
>
> 
>
> So that's what we have done and why we have done it.  We hope these
> small fixes will make everybody's life easier, or at least, more
> predictable :)
>
> Thanks for reading this, and thanks again to B "Urchlay" Watson for the
> hard work preparing 900 individual commits.
> -D.
>
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[Petar Petrov]

hi to all.

first of all, thanks for the hard work on doing all these cleanups.
Are there some new rules about .desktop files? I have not been
following the mailing list lately, so I may have missed sth...

-petar

2017-03-26 4:53 GMT+03:00 David Spencer :
> Hello again everybody!
>
> Here is the second public update that we promised you yesterday. In this
> update there are 912 commits. A few of them are normal updates and
> fixes, but the majority of them are small tidy-ups and fixes to scripts
> that were prepared by B Watson. Thanks to him for the hard work. It is
> always possible that we have broken something, so please let us know if
> you find any problems, and you should blame me, not him, because I
> reviewed them ;)
>
> I will write a follow-up email describing the tidy-ups we have done and
> the reasons for them.
>
> Maintainers, please be sure to get these new versions from our
> repository before you send us your updates.
>
>
> Sun Mar 26 01:18:55 UTC 2017
> academic/EMBOSS: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/FCSalyzer: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/QtiPlot: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/amplicon: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/archeopteryx: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/arka: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/celestia: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> academic/clustalx: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/fet: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/finchtv: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/gcalctool: Fix script typo.
> academic/ggobi: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> academic/gp2fasta: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/grace: i486=>i586.
> academic/gtypist: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/isoelectric-point: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/itex2mml: Remove template comments, i486=>i586.
> academic/jugglinglab: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/knime: Fix shebang, make .desktop validate.
> academic/labplot2: Remove unused doinst.sh.
> academic/ladr: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> academic/loggerpro: Remove template comments, i486=>i586.
> academic/perlprimer: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/pspp: Remove trailing whitespace in .info.
> academic/reduce-algebra: Add missing backslashes to .info.
> academic/scidavis: Fix slack-desc.
> academic/sequence-analysis: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/stellarium: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/tilem: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> academic/tuxtype2: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/wehi-cellsymphony: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/wehi-deid: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/wehi-hackit: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/wehi-weasel: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/xephem: Make .desktop validate.
> academic/zotero: Make .desktop validate.
> audio/TiMidity++: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/aacgain: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/aften: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/alsamixergui: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/ario: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/audacity: Fixed typo in MD5SUM.
> audio/butt: Make .desktop validate, fix HOMEPAGE.
> audio/celt051: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/celt: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/clthreads: Fix .info, i486=>i586.
> audio/clxclient: Fix .info, i486=>i586.
> audio/darkice: Install doinst.sh, i486=>i586.
> audio/drumkv1: Updated for version 0.8.1.
> audio/faad2: Remove template comment, i486=>i586.
> audio/fabla: Make .desktop validate, i486=>i586.
> audio/faust: Add ARCH support to script, fix .info.
> audio/flac123: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/fluidsynth: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/freac: Make .desktop validate, fix slack-desc.
> audio/freepats: Allow VERSION override.
> audio/gqradio: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/id3v2: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/iripdb: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/jack_capture: Make .desktop validate, i486=>i586.
> audio/jamin: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/kanola: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/ladspa_sdk: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/listener: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/luppp: Make .desktop validate, i486=>i586.
> audio/mac: Fix HOMEPAGE, i486=>i586.
> audio/mp3blaster: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/mp3wrap: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/mpdscribble: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/mt-daapd: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/nero-aac: Allow VERSION override, fix .info.
> audio/ocp: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/ogmtools: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/pmidi: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/python-audiotools: Install doinst.sh.
> audio/samplv1: Updated for version 0.8.1.
> audio/schismtracker: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/sfarkxtc: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
> audio/sonata: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586, fix TAG.
> audio/specimen: Make .desktop validate, i486=>i586.
> 

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[David Spencer]

Ok, I'm going to explain some of the small fixes we just made, but you
are welcome to delete this email if you're not interested.



* Make .desktop validate

freedesktop.org has standards for .desktop files and a validator. We
have run the validator on all the .desktop files in our repository and
fixed the problems it reported.

* Allow VERSION override

It should be possible to try to run the SlackBuild script with a
different version, for example 'VERSION=1.2.3 ./script.SlackBuild'
But some really old scripts had never been updated to support this
properly, so we finally got round to fixing them.

* i486=>i586

We are slowly changing to build with Slackware 14.2's i586 flags, but it
is not a high priority, so normally we just do this whenever we are
changing the script for some other reason.

* Remove template comments

We like to have comments for anything unusual in a script, but the
comments in the templates are really just to explain how things work the
first time you create a script. Otherwise they are just unhelpful noise.

* Fix shebang

SlackBuild scripts normally start with '#!/bin/sh'.
Don't use '#!/bin/bash' unless the script really needs to be bash
(this is almost never necessary).
Don't use '#!/bin/sh -e', because '-e' won't work when the script is
invoked with 'sh ./script.SlackBuild' or 'bash ./script.SlackBuild'

* Fix slack-desc
* Fix .info

We have removed unnecessary whitespace in the slack-desc and .info
files, because occasionally this can cause problems for automated tools.
Also we have made sure that all the slack-desc files have the same
formatting comments at the beginning, because there are people who can't
count to 11 and don't understand how to use the handy-ruler :(

* TAG and PRGNAM

We've made sure that these variables are defined consistently in all the
scripts.



So that's what we have done and why we have done it.  We hope these
small fixes will make everybody's life easier, or at least, more
predictable :)

Thanks for reading this, and thanks again to B "Urchlay" Watson for the
hard work preparing 900 individual commits.
-D.



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[Slackbuilds-users] Updates - 20170326.1

[David Spencer]

Hello again everybody!

Here is the second public update that we promised you yesterday. In this
update there are 912 commits. A few of them are normal updates and
fixes, but the majority of them are small tidy-ups and fixes to scripts
that were prepared by B Watson. Thanks to him for the hard work. It is
always possible that we have broken something, so please let us know if
you find any problems, and you should blame me, not him, because I
reviewed them ;)

I will write a follow-up email describing the tidy-ups we have done and
the reasons for them.

Maintainers, please be sure to get these new versions from our
repository before you send us your updates.


Sun Mar 26 01:18:55 UTC 2017
academic/EMBOSS: Make .desktop validate.
academic/FCSalyzer: Make .desktop validate.
academic/QtiPlot: Make .desktop validate.
academic/amplicon: Make .desktop validate.
academic/archeopteryx: Make .desktop validate.
academic/arka: Make .desktop validate.
academic/celestia: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
academic/clustalx: Make .desktop validate.
academic/fet: Make .desktop validate.
academic/finchtv: Make .desktop validate.
academic/gcalctool: Fix script typo.
academic/ggobi: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
academic/gp2fasta: Make .desktop validate.
academic/grace: i486=>i586.
academic/gtypist: Make .desktop validate.
academic/isoelectric-point: Make .desktop validate.
academic/itex2mml: Remove template comments, i486=>i586.
academic/jugglinglab: Make .desktop validate.
academic/knime: Fix shebang, make .desktop validate.
academic/labplot2: Remove unused doinst.sh.
academic/ladr: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
academic/loggerpro: Remove template comments, i486=>i586.
academic/perlprimer: Make .desktop validate.
academic/pspp: Remove trailing whitespace in .info.
academic/reduce-algebra: Add missing backslashes to .info.
academic/scidavis: Fix slack-desc.
academic/sequence-analysis: Make .desktop validate.
academic/stellarium: Make .desktop validate.
academic/tilem: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
academic/tuxtype2: Make .desktop validate.
academic/wehi-cellsymphony: Make .desktop validate.
academic/wehi-deid: Make .desktop validate.
academic/wehi-hackit: Make .desktop validate.
academic/wehi-weasel: Make .desktop validate.
academic/xephem: Make .desktop validate.
academic/zotero: Make .desktop validate.
audio/TiMidity++: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/aacgain: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/aften: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/alsamixergui: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/ario: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/audacity: Fixed typo in MD5SUM.
audio/butt: Make .desktop validate, fix HOMEPAGE.
audio/celt051: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/celt: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/clthreads: Fix .info, i486=>i586.
audio/clxclient: Fix .info, i486=>i586.
audio/darkice: Install doinst.sh, i486=>i586.
audio/drumkv1: Updated for version 0.8.1.
audio/faad2: Remove template comment, i486=>i586.
audio/fabla: Make .desktop validate, i486=>i586.
audio/faust: Add ARCH support to script, fix .info.
audio/flac123: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/fluidsynth: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/freac: Make .desktop validate, fix slack-desc.
audio/freepats: Allow VERSION override.
audio/gqradio: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/id3v2: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/iripdb: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/jack_capture: Make .desktop validate, i486=>i586.
audio/jamin: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/kanola: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/ladspa_sdk: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/listener: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/luppp: Make .desktop validate, i486=>i586.
audio/mac: Fix HOMEPAGE, i486=>i586.
audio/mp3blaster: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/mp3wrap: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/mpdscribble: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/mt-daapd: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/nero-aac: Allow VERSION override, fix .info.
audio/ocp: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/ogmtools: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/pmidi: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/python-audiotools: Install doinst.sh.
audio/samplv1: Updated for version 0.8.1.
audio/schismtracker: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/sfarkxtc: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/sonata: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586, fix TAG.
audio/specimen: Make .desktop validate, i486=>i586.
audio/sunvox: Make .desktop validate.
audio/swh-plugins: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/synthv1: Updated for version 0.8.1.
audio/tagtool: Allow VERSION override.
audio/tuxguitar: Allow VERSION override.
audio/twolame: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/vorbisgain: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
audio/xmms2: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
business/openerp-client: Allow VERSION override, i486=>i586.
business/openerp-server: Allow VERSION