Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: > On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:02:03PM +0930, Richard Sharpe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:53:38AM +1000, Adam F. Bogacki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >wrote: > > > > > >> The NZ government Gov

[SLUG] LDAP server on Linux

Title: LDAP server on Linux Anyone knows how to set up a LDAP server on Linux box? Netscape Server or Open LDAP. thanks XT3 has changed its name to Ion Global Australia. Jeff Ai Tel: (612) 99002416   Direct Fax: (612) 9900 2010 Ion Global Australia Ion G

Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

> > More importantly, how the hell can they monitor / police it ? > > I mean, o/s software vendors aren't going to care what the NZ tax is, and > > they ain't about to collect it ! > > Since when have facts, or technological possibilities, stopped governments > from making stupid laws? Sorry - h

Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:02:03PM +0930, Richard Sharpe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:53:38AM +1000, Adam F. Bogacki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >wrote: > > > >> The NZ government Government is proposing to charge GST on software > >> download

Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group

> I agree. Just by Sluggers, Linux persons etc putting GNU/Linux or Linux/GNU > in the appropriate places can we say "thanks GNU to you too" (TGNU2U2) > :-) And, to be honest, I'd prefer to be known as a SLUGger, than a GLUGer... Although that does relate well to drinking...:-) JOn -- SLUG

Re: [SLUG] LDAP server on Linux

http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/LDAP-HOWTO.html http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO/index.html -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates _ "We needn't, as socialists, get too concerned about privacy; it'

Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

I've often wondered about this and I've often wondered why the gummint couldn't slap the GST on all CC charges originating O/S as they currently do with FID/BAD etc through the banks, CC companies, etc. Thoughts anyone? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates __

Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: > On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:53:38AM +1000, Adam F. Bogacki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> The NZ government Government is proposing to charge GST on software >> downloaded over the internet, possibly threatening the open-source model of >> software distribution. > >

Re: [SLUG] Meeting details for newbie

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Michael Still wrote: > I will probably be in town from Canberra on Friday the 29th, which means I > might make it to SLUG. I have a few questions though: Whilst it is gratify to have started my own flame war, I think I should point out that the course got cancelled and I am

[SLUG] Procmail question

sluggers, I have a problem with my procmail setup and I cant SEE it, the mail doesnt seem to be wanting to end up in the file IN.sysadmin. WHY?? [123] [piquet:jobst] ~/.procmail >ls -la total 140 drwx--6 jobstjobst4096 Jun 28 16:24 . drwx-- 24 jobstjobst

Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

> So, the reality is that for companies, things do not cost 10% more, so > there is no advantage to using free software. Obviously not because Free Software is 100% less than 10% less than 110%? :) Surely there were those other advantage of Free Software in there too... - Jeff --

RE: [SLUG] Re. SLUG meeting instructions for newbie

Dear Howard, I don't wish to get into a flame war, but could you give me the exact reference in www.nswtaxi.org.au where the time/distance ration in Sydney taximeter computer chips is detailed. I could not find it. Also, you make the assumption that a newbie would be arr

Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group

A number of people have put their hands up to say GNU/Linux is a good name, and then gone on to nominate practical difficulties etc. I just wanted to state again that I think the name is bad based on philosophical reasons. There are a number of arguements various people have brought up, but I de

RE: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

I wouldn't put it past our current government. Adam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Waugh Sent: 28 June, 2001 01:03 AM To: Slug@Slug. Org. Au Subject: Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?] > The NZ g

Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group

I so didn't want to get involved in this debate, especially on the main list (and in threaded reply to that foolishly disrespectful email from before). > I mean, has anyone ever tried explain to a normal person what a > self-referential non-descriptive acronym IS? And what it has to do with > s

RE: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Adam F. Bogacki wrote: > Yep, but it's a foot in the door ... > I have no objection if Mr. William Gates' XP downloads are taxed. How will this affect subscription based software? I presume there will be a GST based impost everytime you need an update rachel -- Rach

Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 01:47:29PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > I mean, has anyone ever tried explain to a normal person what a > self-referential non-descriptive acronym IS? And what it has to do with > software. Ah no take the Microsoft way here - users don't need to know that. It's tooo hard :

Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group

on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 01:47:29PM +1000, Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't help but think RMS is shooting himself in the foot with the name > GNU, and GNU/Linux > > I mean, has anyone ever tried explain to a normal person what a > self-referential non-descriptive acronym IS? And

[SLUG] Joining SLUG Remotely

[ In-Reply-To removed 'cos this is important in its own right. ] > On that note is there yet a way to join slug via credit card or send a > cheque? There was some discussion on the list a while ago but at the time > it was being worked on. Have not heard anything since. Neither have I. The pla

Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 02:01:58PM +1000, Bevan Broun wrote: > But could we as (GNU/)linux users at least ack RMS's contrib with a > "GNU/Linux" button on the slug website pointing to the GNU site and RMS's > essays on the topic? > > We could use GNU/Linux in the sig of the slug mail. I think th

RE: [SLUG] Re: XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X Windows System

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Adam F. Bogacki wrote: > There is also a detailed section on 'Editing Your XF86CONFIG file' in the > "NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Driver README & Installation Guide" (last updated > May 14, 2001) at www.nvidia.com That's if you're using the nvidia driver (as part of the 3D acce

Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 02:15:46PM +1000, Adam F. Bogacki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I was careful to say "possibly". You could well be right. Adam 1 Jobst 1 ;-) jhs -- The computer is your friend. It never argues until Gates squeezed Chilly through the CDROM door! |__

Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 02:15:44PM +1000, Adam F. Bogacki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Yep, but it's a foot in the door ... > I have no objection if Mr. William Gates' XP downloads are taxed. Especially if they are taxed by the MEGABYTE!! hehehehehehehe jhs -- Bowman: Open the pod b

RE: [SLUG] Re: XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X Windows System

There is also a detailed section on 'Editing Your XF86CONFIG file' in the "NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Driver README & Installation Guide" (last updated May 14, 2001) at www.nvidia.com I'm reading through it before firing up vi to have a look at /etc/X11/XF86Config ... Adam -Original Message--

RE: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

I was careful to say "possibly". You could well be right. Adam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jobst Schmalenbach Sent: 28 June, 2001 11:07 AM To: Slug@Slug. Org. Au Subject: Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next

RE: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

Yep, but it's a foot in the door ... I have no objection if Mr. William Gates' XP downloads are taxed. Adam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DaZZa Sent: 28 June, 2001 10:55 AM To: Adam F. Bogacki Cc: Slug@Slug. Org. Au Subject: Re: [SLUG]

Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

> Why? What's the GST on zero? More importantly, how the hell can they monitor / police it ? I mean, o/s software vendors aren't going to care what the NZ tax is, and they ain't about to collect it ! Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://

Re: [SLUG] Linux-G: Making Linux Hip Again

>From the Keep Linux APolitical (KLAP) group (Don't flame me, I'm just the messenger): "It has come to our attention that a good many people have been using Linux in a way that departs from it's charming and photogenic creator's original intention to make a kick-ass terminal emulator. "We are ho

Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group

on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 01:26:42PM +1000, Matthew Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He was responding to the Mundie comments and so forth, giving the usual > history of the GNU project, etc. I found his arguments for calling > the system GNU/Linux quite compelling. On the other hand, SLUG w

Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group

I can't help but think RMS is shooting himself in the foot with the name GNU, and GNU/Linux I mean, has anyone ever tried explain to a normal person what a self-referential non-descriptive acronym IS? And what it has to do with software. Take for example, RNT.RNT's Not Telstra. That could b

Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Bevan Broun wrote: > [who will join slug with $s at tomorrows meeting] On that note is there yet a way to join slug via credit card or send a cheque? There was some discussion on the list a while ago but at the time it was being worked on. Have not heard anything since. I a

Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 01:26:42PM +1000, Matthew Davidson wrote: > Linux, so SLUG is still a technically correct name. However I suggest > (audaciously, as a non-member) that SLUG adopt a policy of when > referring to the kernel the term "Linux" is used, otherwise "GNU/Linux", > particularly in

Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group

RMS gave an entertaining speech last month: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/audio/audio.html#NYU2001 He was responding to the Mundie comments and so forth, giving the usual history of the GNU project, etc. I found his arguments for calling the system GNU/Linux quite compelling. On the other hand

Re: [SLUG] Religious Flamewar Required - authentication

On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:24:11PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > Incidentally, how many PCAN tech bods have you got? Not many. I've been using Debian almost exclusively on my home LAN for a couple of years now, but I've got little real world experience. We've got the odd person with some

Re: [SLUG] Postscript to HPGL converter

> Hello Folks > > Does anyone know of an opensource postscript to HPGL (pen plotter) > converter? > > My genealogical chart has expanded well beyond the A3 size and now I > have access to a Pen plotter, it makes sense to do A0 plots. > Unfortunately, the only output is linux app (Lifelines) outp

[SLUG] Postscript to HPGL converter

Hello Folks Does anyone know of an opensource postscript to HPGL (pen plotter) converter? My genealogical chart has expanded well beyond the A3 size and now I have access to a Pen plotter, it makes sense to do A0 plots. Unfortunately, the only output is linux app (Lifelines) output is postscript

RE: [SLUG] Re: XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X Windows System

On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP wrote: > look for an XF86Config-4 which on Mandrake is the XF86Config file for X > windows version 4, and the XF86Config file is for version 3.6 To complete the story: XF86Config-4 is the preferred config file for XFree 4, not X windows 4. XFr

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Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:53:38AM +1000, Adam F. Bogacki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > The NZ government Government is proposing to charge GST on software > downloaded over the internet, possibly threatening the open-source model of > software distribution. This is actually in FAVOUR of linux

Re: [SLUG] Apache: Compiling in mod_so support (Redhat 7.1)

One thing you should do is to setup rpm so you don't compile as root. Maximum-RPM is really good: http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/ Building RPM's as root is dangerous, because the binary files are installed on the system before being packaged. Now if the spec file has a problem it is possible to poll

Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

> The NZ government Government is proposing to charge GST on software > downloaded over the internet, possibly threatening the open-source model of > software distribution. Good god! I hope it doesn't happen here! That ten percent on $0 is going to be a killer. [ --> slug-chat ] - Jeff --

Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

$0 + 10/12/15%? = $0 No problem see I - A different Adam - Original Message - From: "Adam F. Bogacki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Slug@Slug. Org. Au" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:53 AM Subject: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?] > > Th

[SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

The NZ government Government is proposing to charge GST on software downloaded over the internet, possibly threatening the open-source model of software distribution. Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/PA0106/S00406.htm Scoop GST Changes For Electronic Comm

Re: [SLUG] Apache: Compiling in mod_so support (Redhat 7.1)

Something along the lines of 1) Install the source rpm -i apache.src.rpm 2) Edit the spec file 3) Build the binary rpm 4) Install the binary rpm Mehmet Ozdemir wrote: > Hello All, > > I'd like to enable mod_so support in apache. I currently have the > default apache installed with Redhat 7.1

Re: [SLUG] SCP on debian

Matt Hope wrote: > > matth@rtfm:~% apt-cache show ssh | grep Filename > Filename: dists/potato/non-US/main/binary-sparc/ssh_1.2.3-9.3.deb > > 'ssh' is in the non-US tree, make sure you add some non-US sources to your > /etc/apt/sources.list. Personally, I use > > deb http://mirror.cse.unsw.edu

[SLUG] Debian kernel source

> > $ dpkg -S /usr/include/linux/version.h > libc6-dev: /usr/include/linux/version.h > > So on my Debian system that suggests that you need the development library > sources for libc6. One thing that irked me a little was that I installed the kernel source for DEB and it did not require GCC

Re: [SLUG] Apache: why doesn't "allow from localhost work" ?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:56:07PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote: > So if I was using 'localhost' which is refering to a URL that the request > comes from then it would use ServerName:Port ie b4114:80 ? > (Real names here now.) > With it off (ie just now I commented it out) what would it use as > hostnam

Re: [SLUG] Installing Driver Problems Under Red Hat 6.2

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:34:10PM +1000, D.V.Rogers wrote: > Hi All > Wondering if anyone can help out with why I am having trouble installing > a driver under Red Hat 6.2 > Kernel 2.2.17-14. Right at teh very start of the build you have... > [root@seismic driver]# make depend > /bin/cp Makefi

Re: [SLUG] Using Locate Under Red Hat 6.2

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:36:47PM +1000, D.V.Rogers wrote: > Hello All (Again) > When using locate under Red Hat 6.2 i get the following; > you need to run the /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron command as root > How do I do this? Have a look at that file ie /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron You will prob

RE: [SLUG] Re: XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X Windows System

look for an XF86Config-4 which on Mandrake is the XF86Config file for X windows version 4, and the XF86Config file is for version 3.6 Chris -Original Message- From: Matthew Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2001 12:02 To: Adam F. Bogacki Cc: Slug@Slug. Org. Au Su

Re: [SLUG] Apache: why doesn't "allow from localhost work" ?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:25:30PM +1000, getadog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:16:07PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote: > > When I point it at http://localhost/~mikel I get > > "Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~mikel on this server." > > AND the URL in the browser changes to: > >

RE: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Sydney Loves Using GNU/Linux

slug'nu -Original Message- From: Jobst Schmalenbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2001 11:31 To: SLUG Cc: Jeff Waugh; Penguinillas Subject: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Sydney Loves Using GNU/Linux On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 05:56:48PM +1000, Jeff Waugh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote

RE: [SLUG] Apache: why doesn't "allow from localhost work" ?

I don't think that it is an apache thing at all. If you are using a proxy address, put as exclusions in your browser proxy settings - 130.10.11.12 127.0.0.1 localhost Chris -Original Message- From: Mike Lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2001 6:16 To: [EMAIL PROTEC

[SLUG] Using Locate Under Red Hat 6.2

Hello All (Again) When using locate under Red Hat 6.2 i get the following; you need to run the /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron command as root How do I do this? Thanks once agin Regards David -- -- D.V. Rogers www.allshookup.org -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux Us

[SLUG] Installing Driver Problems Under Red Hat 6.2

Hi All Wondering if anyone can help out with why I am having trouble installing a driver under Red Hat 6.2 Kernel 2.2.17-14. Red Hat 6.2 is newly installed and the driver I need to install works fine under SuSE 7.0 Below are the command line outputs when I ; (apologies_its long!) 1. make depend

Re: [SLUG] Apache: why doesn't "allow from localhost work" ?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 05:48:48PM +1000, Andrew Bennetts wrote: > At a guess, the first should work, and the second shouldn't. Your > browser is free to bind to any local interface it likes when it creates > a socket to connect to somewhere... default behaviour for sockets is to > try pick an ap

Re: [SLUG] Apache: why doesn't "allow from localhost work" ?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:16:07PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote: > > When I point it at http://localhost/~mikel I get > "Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~mikel on this server." > > AND the URL in the browser changes to: > http://mycomputername.mydomain.edu.au/~mikel/ In your a

Re: [SLUG] Apache: why doesn't "allow from localhost work" ?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 05:48:48PM +1000, Andrew Bennetts wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 05:11:24PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote: > > # allow from localhost # why does this not work? > > Are you pointing your browser at > http://localhost/blah > or at: > http://mycomputername/blah When I p

Re: [SLUG] Apache: why doesn't "allow from localhost work" ?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 05:21:30PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 05:12:59PM +1000, enterfornone wrote: > > Does it do DNS lookups? Perhaps 127.0.0.1 would be better than localhost. > > To the first part, ? > To the second part, no 127.0.0.1 also does not work. Ok. my /etc/ho

Re: [SLUG] Apache: why doesn't "allow from localhost work" ?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 05:11:24PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote: > # allow from localhost # why does this not work? Are you pointing your browser at http://localhost/blah or at: http://mycomputername/blah ? At a guess, the first should work, and the second shouldn't. Your browser is free to