Re: [SLUG] CUPS problem

2005-06-09 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:01:53 +1000 Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day, A new Debian Sarge installation. I have a Canon printer set up and trying to print a test page. CUPS logging set to 'debug'. The process goes well until the following error messages. I presume I need to set some

RE: [SLUG] Help with apt-get pinning

2005-06-09 Thread Roger Barnes
Do a dist-upgrade, not an upgrade. An upgrade doesn't try hard enough - it won't remove packages. dist-upgrade does, thus can resolve conflicts. Okay, what does it mean when it says there is nothing to upgrade? I have a basic woody installation and /etc/apt/spurces.list says stable,

[SLUG] Webcam driver questions

2005-06-09 Thread Leslie Katz
I have a webcam, labelled a Mustek WCam 300A. I can use it under Windows and it produces video of satisfactory colour. I have obtained for the webcam a Linux driver, the spca5xx driver. I have satisfied myself by running GnomeMeeting under Fedora Core 3 that the driver does make the webcam

[SLUG] Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread telford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So JJJ is offering an RSS newsfeed for the Hack program and the URL is here: http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hack/podcast/podcast.xml So here we have data made available to the whole world, put the data into XML format, perfect for compatibility,

[SLUG] Solution: OpenOffice spellchecker running VERY slow

2005-06-09 Thread elliott-brennan
Hi all, Some time ago I posted a query about OpenOffice spell checker being slower than a wet week - this is when you use the 'right click on the word' option. It was driving me crazy. Well, I found a solution: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~eyang/Linux/ It appears that OO is trying to load

[SLUG] Re: Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread Jan Newmarch
Don't confuse the language with the parser. By this criterion even TeX doesn't make it as a markup language - I have had many, many files fail to parse over a single error. One TeX parser I used even had an extra help key: when you pressed it, the response was usually I've given you all the

Re: [SLUG] Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure enough there is a high-ascii item in there and some Mac user has no doubt used a proprietary bingle-bongle encoding for a single quote even though there is a perfectly good ASCII encoding for the same. No there's not. It's a

Re: [SLUG] Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread Jamie Honan
Yes I realise that in an ideal world the ?xml? tag would contain encoding information and yes I realise that in order to be correct UTF-8 it must encode characters above 127 in a special way and this encoding I'm not an xml fan nor an expert (calling Mike and others), but as I understand

[SLUG] Re: Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread Steve Lindsay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, how DO I get perl to read such a file? Just forget the xml jazz and grep out the mp3 links :) http://linc.homeunix.org:8080/scripts/bashpodder is about 10 lines of bash and works nicely. In addition to hack, John Safran and Dr Karl are also available

Re: [SLUG] Help with apt-get pinning

2005-06-09 Thread Terry Collins
Roger Barnes wrote: Okay, what does it mean when it says there is nothing to upgrade? I have a basic woody installation and /etc/apt/spurces.list says stable, not woody. I am trying the Pacific.net.au mirror. http://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian/dists/stable/Release says that stable ==

[SLUG] wireless problems on vaio ubuntu intel 2200BG

2005-06-09 Thread linley caetan
Are there some better tools for managing wireless connections. I am running Ubuntu Hoary on a Sony vaio with intel 2200BG wireless interface. More specfically is there a tool that is as good as the wireless networking tool available in windows XP? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List

Re: [SLUG] wireless problems on vaio ubuntu intel 2200BG

2005-06-09 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
Heya Linley. Long time no see. This one time, at band camp, linley caetan wrote: Are there some better tools for managing wireless connections. I am running Ubuntu Hoary on a Sony vaio with intel 2200BG wireless interface. More specfically is there a tool that is as good as the wireless

Re: [SLUG] wireless problems on vaio ubuntu intel 2200BG

2005-06-09 Thread Simon Males
Nothing that I know of. Most cards _don't_ have very good support in Linux, particularly the 802.11g cards, so some of the features like tell me all the access points in range don't really work. $ sudo iwlist ethX scan -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group

Re: [SLUG] wireless problems on vaio ubuntu intel 2200BG

2005-06-09 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
This one time, at band camp, Simon Males wrote: $ sudo iwlist ethX scan My assumption was that Linley wants to do this from a GUI. Also, this doesn't work if you're associated with an AP. For reference, Windows XP pops up a list of available APs and you can chop and change between them.

Re: [SLUG] wireless problems on vaio ubuntu intel 2200BG

2005-06-09 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=linley caetan Are there some better tools for managing wireless connections. I am running Ubuntu Hoary on a Sony vaio with intel 2200BG wireless interface. More specfically is there a tool that is as good as the wireless networking tool available in windows XP? Try installing

Re: [SLUG] Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?xml version=1.0?rss version=2.0 Keep in mind that all forms of RSS are absolute abominations, most feeds are completely broken, and it has not encouraged anyone to use XML properly. XML is quite good in general. RSS and all its related muck (as well as HTML if we're

Re: [SLUG] Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread telford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:13:49PM +1000, Jamie Honan wrote: I think the key is 'validating'... If you checked my perl example, I specifically turn validation off in an attempt to get the data to load. It didn't help. I've got three answers to

[SLUG] Returned mail: see transcript for details

2005-06-09 Thread Mail Delivery Subsystem
The original message was received at Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:04:31 -0700 (PDT) from www3-sec.cruzio.com [63.249.95.203] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: Service unavailable) - Transcript of session follows - 522 5.2.2 Sorry,

Re: [SLUG] Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread telford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:14:05AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?xml version=1.0?rss version=2.0 Keep in mind that all forms of RSS are absolute abominations, most feeds are completely broken, and it has not encouraged

RE: [SLUG] Help with apt-get pinning

2005-06-09 Thread Roger Barnes
Perhaps this is wrongly formatted. deb ftp://ftp.debian.pacific.net.au/debian-security stable/updates main contrib non-free Otherwise, itmst be the seven woody CDroms listed first in /etc/apt/sources.list. You need the base debian repository (you may want to replace your CD based

Re: [SLUG] Re: Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread telford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:34:53PM +1000, Jan Newmarch wrote: Don't confuse the language with the parser. By this criterion even TeX doesn't make it as a markup language - I have had many, many files fail to parse over a single error. TeX is a

Re: [SLUG] Webcam driver questions

2005-06-09 Thread telford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:55:55PM +1000, Leslie Katz wrote: The documentation that came with the driver did refer to a program, spcagui, that can be used to test the driver, but I'm told that to install it, I need libjpeg, libsdl and SDL_image

Re: [SLUG] Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 20:10 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Thus if anyone is going to design a communications language it should be a robust and that means it can recover from problems and can guarantee resynchronisation from an arbitrary seek. XML doesn't live up to the promise of being

Re: [SLUG] Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread telford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 09:48:12AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: Uhm. Sure. Heres a Gig of download, your 500K of usable detail can be found spread throughout it. I think that even with perfectly well formed XML you will find that the ratio of

[SLUG] Scheduling a X GUI Application to start

2005-06-09 Thread Adam W
Hi, I simply want to schedule a specific X application to start up at a given time and appear on the screen. How do i do that?? I have tried using cron but it seems to just start it in the background. Cheers Adam. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/

Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu kernel source and binary packages

2005-06-09 Thread John Clarke
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 06:06:10 +1000, Michael Chesterton wrote: John Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: apt-get-install linux-686-smp gave me a kernel which says it's v2.6.10-5. try apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp|grep Version it says Version: 2.6.10-34.1, which I guess

[SLUG] Re: Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 09:30:47AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I change the character this once then that's fixes the problem once, since it is a news feed I'll just have to face the problem again which means what I really have to do is write a program to fix the data. In effect, I'm

[SLUG] gnome-panel gone in Debian-unstable/Metacity

2005-06-09 Thread Adam Bogacki
Hi, I logged into a seldom-used account to satisfy an 80 yr. old lady's wish to send an urgent email and found two panels giving me a choice between 'X-settings' and 'Gnome-session', choosing the latter out of long-term habit. I then found gnome-panels to be completely gone. I've been trying to

Re: [SLUG] wireless problems on vaio ubuntu intel 2200BG

2005-06-09 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- linley caetan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running Ubuntu Hoary on a Sony vaio with intel 2200BG wireless interface. Do you have the ipw2200 driver installed? http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/ Can you post the output of: /sbin/lsmod /usr/sbin/iwconfig -a More specfically is there

Re: [SLUG] Scheduling a X GUI Application to start

2005-06-09 Thread Simon Bowden
Adam, You can use cron(tab), but you'd need to set the DISPLAY variable appropriately: DISPLAY=:0 xprogram /dev/null 2/dev/null That's assuming the cron job is running as the same user and same host as the X display. It gets a little complicated otherwise. Your question does seem a bit

Re: [SLUG] Scheduling a X GUI Application to start

2005-06-09 Thread James
On 6/10/05, Adam W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I simply want to schedule a specific X application to start up at a given time and appear on the screen. If your a KDE man try Kalarm. I ues this to lock the screen on our wall displays at 17:00 but you can ask it to do pretty much anything.

Re: [SLUG] gnome-panel gone in Debian-unstable/Metacity

2005-06-09 Thread Ian Wienand
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:39:03PM +1200, Adam Bogacki wrote: Trying 'apt-get -f install gnome-panel' as root gives me a long string of unmet dependencies which won't cut'n paste from gnome-terminal. Is this something affecting other Debian unstable users at the moment, or just me ? There

Re: [SLUG] Scheduling a X GUI Application to start

2005-06-09 Thread Adam W
On 6/10/05, Simon Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your question does seem a bit odd though. If you had mentioned whatwhy you are really trying to achieve, then perhaps there would be a better or more appropriate way... Basically optusnet cable gives you free bandwidth from 2am til 9am. I want

[SLUG] The pain - make it stop!!

2005-06-09 Thread James Gray
Hi All, I got brave (and stupid) and decided to upgrade all of my 3 Debian Woody+backports boxes to Sarge last night. I've been doing these updates like this since Potato days :) It usually Just Works(tm). However, last night many, many things went wrong and I didn't get to bed.at all.

[SLUG] Ubuntu kernel upgrade woes

2005-06-09 Thread John Clarke
Hi all, Ubuntu released a new kernel yesterday, which I duly installed with 'apt-get upgrade'. I'm used to keeping the old kernel in place until I've verified that the new one boots (rpm allows two different versions to be installed at the same time), but I couldn't figure out how to do that

Re: [SLUG] Scheduling a X GUI Application to start

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Hardy
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 11:53, Adam W wrote: On 6/10/05, Simon Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your question does seem a bit odd though. If you had mentioned whatwhy you are really trying to achieve, then perhaps there would be a better or more appropriate way... Basically optusnet cable

[SLUG] Debian Woody Dynamic MMap ran out of room.

2005-06-09 Thread Terry Collins
Hello folks Are there any fiddles (other than extra RAMM[1]) to solve this error message Dynamic MMAP ran out of room when using apt-get? Have 128Mb of Ramm and 256Mb of swap. [1] naah, it would just be flamebait to stay anything. -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au

RE: [SLUG] Scheduling a X GUI Application to start

2005-06-09 Thread Roger Barnes
On 6/10/05, Simon Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your question does seem a bit odd though. If you had mentioned whatwhy you are really trying to achieve, then perhaps there would be a better or more appropriate way... Basically optusnet cable gives you free bandwidth from 2am til

Re: [SLUG] Scheduling a X GUI Application to start

2005-06-09 Thread Terry Collins
Adam W wrote: Basically optusnet cable gives you free bandwidth from 2am til 9am. I want BitTorrent (python script) to start up at 2am, (and prefferably stop at 9am) automatically so that i can take full advantage of this free bandwidth without wasting my other bandwidth all the time. I will

Re: [SLUG] Scheduling a X GUI Application to start

2005-06-09 Thread Adam W
On 6/10/05, Roger Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/10/05, Simon Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your question does seem a bit odd though. If you had mentioned whatwhy you are really trying to achieve, then perhaps there would be a better or more appropriate way... Basically

[SLUG] the parable of the mudpile...

2005-06-09 Thread Taryn East
I am a c-programmer with five years of experience in a commercial environment, and have become increasingly aware of what I would consider to be a few failings in the technical processes of our company... but of course I am just the junior developer (don't seem to be able to shake that word from

Re: [SLUG] the parable of the mudpile...

2005-06-09 Thread Rob Sharp
Is that not how every mud-hut building company works? ;-) I only hope the senior dev^H^H^Hmud-hut builder isn't on the SLUG list...! Rob. On 6/10/05, Taryn East [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a c-programmer with five years of experience in a commercial environment, and have become

RE: [SLUG] the parable of the mudpile...

2005-06-09 Thread Rowling, Jill
Systems Engineering used to be a compulsory subject at both UNSW EE/CS and UTS EE; clearly it isn't compulsory everywhere! Unfortunately most small businesses (includes many telcos, computer game developers and some dot-com survivors) are unaware that the cost of a project is inversely

Re: [SLUG] the parable of the mudpile...

2005-06-09 Thread Taryn East
* Rob Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: Is that not how every mud-hut building company works? ;-) I only hope the senior dev^H^H^Hmud-hut builder isn't on the SLUG list...! unlikely... his home system is windows (and he works from home)... Taryn -- This .sig temporarily out-of-order. We

Re: [SLUG] the parable of the mudpile...

2005-06-09 Thread Taryn East
* Rowling, Jill [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: Systems Engineering used to be a compulsory subject at both UNSW EE/CS and UTS EE; clearly it isn't compulsory everywhere! lets just say that the guy I work with has been around longer than IT degrees have... Unfortunately most small businesses

Re: [SLUG] the parable of the mudpile...

2005-06-09 Thread Rob Sharp
My development work is mainly web based, and one of the advantages of running server-based code is how easy it is to demonstrate efficency increases through improving code. The cost savings achieved by code optimisation/refactoring versus having to reinstall/upgrade/cluster your servers are huge,

Re: [SLUG] gnome-panel gone in Debian-unstable/Metacity

2005-06-09 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Adam Bogacki Trying 'apt-get -f install gnome-panel' as root gives me a long string of unmet dependencies which won't cut'n paste from gnome-terminal. Is this something affecting other Debian unstable users at the moment, or just me ? GNOME 2.10 is being dropped into unstable at

Re: [SLUG] Re: Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-09 Thread telford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:04:07AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: The problem with XML isn't that it's a crap language, it's that people are very poor at following instructions. When a spec says thou MUST do it this way, instead of doing it this

Re: [SLUG] the parable of the mudpile...

2005-06-09 Thread telford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:56:54PM +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote: Systems Engineering used to be a compulsory subject at both UNSW EE/CS and UTS EE; clearly it isn't compulsory everywhere! Unfortunately most small businesses (includes many telcos,