Re: [SLUG] Re: Why XML bites and why it is NOT a markup language

2005-06-13 Thread Jamie Honan
We're probably abusing the list here ... You can imprint a record-oriented structure onto a stream format by using tags in the stream but trying to support a stream by using a record format is really ugly (not impossible). It is desirable to have a format that makes it easy to build higher

Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu kernel upgrade woes

2005-06-13 Thread John Clarke
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 07:37:52 +1000, Michael Chesterton wrote: I don't know what happened in your situation, you might have been unlucky, or hit a bug. It usually just works. IIRC the kernel was upgraded when I did an 'apt-get upgrade' after the initial installation and it worked fine.

Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu kernel source and binary packages

2005-06-13 Thread John Clarke
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 07:51:35 +1000, Michael Chesterton wrote: I got confused by this, too. The package name has a version number in it, which is independent to the package Version: number. $ apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp Thanks again. I'm slowly learning how apt/dpkg

RE: [SLUG] Ubuntu kernel upgrade woes

2005-06-13 Thread Carlo Sogono
The exact same thing happened to me. I normally update anything available. The next time I swiched on my laptop the day after it gave me the same unable to boot error. Had to install from scratch. Good thing I backed up my data a week before but yeah it irritated me big time. Carlo

[SLUG] Seeking User Group Management Advice

2005-06-13 Thread Peter Rundle
Sluggers, I'm looking for some advice in regards to user and group account management. I have a piece of software (Matlab) for which we have a single user licence. I.e the licence is tied to a user account on the Linux server. In order to use this software you have to login as that user. Or

[SLUG] Re: Seeking User Group Management Advice

2005-06-13 Thread Matt Palmer
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:12:20AM +1000, Alan L Tyree wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:39:16 +1000 Peter Rundle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Does anyone know of an open source matlab alternate? The GNU Octave language for numerical computations (2.1 branch) Octave is a (mostly Matlab

Re: [SLUG] Seeking User Group Management Advice

2005-06-13 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Alan L Tyree wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:39:16 +1000 Peter Rundle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Does anyone know of an open source matlab alternate? The GNU Octave language for numerical computations (2.1 branch) Octave is a (mostly Matlab (R) compatible) high-level language,

Re: [SLUG] Seeking User Group Management Advice

2005-06-13 Thread Peter Rundle
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: I use Octave all the time and think its brilliant. Peter, specifically what kinds of things do need? To be perfectly honest I don't know. I'm not a user of the product I've been asked to deploy it from a central server rather than running a PC version. I

Re: [SLUG] Seeking User Group Management Advice

2005-06-13 Thread Peter Hardy
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 09:39 +1000, Peter Rundle wrote: directory without being able to trash each others account? Is there an elegant way to become another user but retain your group privledge? Perhaps something like login as peter then su - matlab ; newgrp peter? When I do this it

Re: [SLUG] Seeking User Group Management Advice

2005-06-13 Thread telford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 09:39:16AM +1000, Peter Rundle wrote: Perhaps something like login as peter then su - matlab ; newgrp peter? When I do this it prompts for a group password, where is this kept and how do I set it? (man newgrp tells me

Re: [SLUG] Seeking User Group Management Advice

2005-06-13 Thread Peter Rundle
Peter Hardy wrote: From what I can see, not many people bother using group passwords, including me. So documentation is fairly sparse. Here be dragons. Yikes! [snip] If you decide to chase that any further, I'd like to hear how you go. :-) Ok so far I've discovered the gpasswd command which

Re: [SLUG] Seeking User Group Management Advice

2005-06-13 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- Peter Rundle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of an open source matlab alternate? R-project: http://www.r-project.org/ pspp: http://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/pspp.html Regards, SK -- proudly anti-micro$oft

[SLUG] Next ALJ cover disk

2005-06-13 Thread Mark Chandler
Hi all, I'm a contributor to the Australian Linux Journal. We're in the middle of planning the next issue and are trying to decide on a cover disk, and thought it would be good to get the opinions of some Sluggers. So far, we've thought that either a live distro, like Knoppix 3.9, or a

Re: [SLUG] Seeking User Group Management Advice

2005-06-13 Thread telford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 01:26:00PM +1000, Peter Rundle wrote: Ok so far I've discovered the gpasswd command which allows me to set a password for the group and apparently apoint an administrator of the group though my idea is to have the user su

Re: [SLUG] Seeking User Group Management Advice

2005-06-13 Thread Peter Rundle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tested this on Fedora-3 and noticed that newgrp won't let you change group even when you do have the correct password. I found that RedHat have listed a bug that newgrp is broken here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=85280 The nasty thing