Re: [SLUG] Your top-ten linux desktop apps

2005-09-28 Thread James Polley
On 9/28/05, Mike MacCana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 11:17 +1000, David wrote: mutt for speed squirrelmail for pictures, html, pdf, other gui crap, etc. You might be interested in roundcube. OSS webmail like Squirrelmail, except it doesn't look like arse.

Re: [SLUG] squirrellmail/roundcube

2005-09-28 Thread Dave Kempe
James Polley wrote: Roundcube does look kinda purty.. but it's in alpha, and it uses everyone's favorite toy database for some inexplicable reason. Why does a webmail client need to use a database? If it really must, why doesn't it use a real database? Might suit your needs/wants... I'll stick

Re: [SLUG] squirrellmail/roundcube

2005-09-28 Thread Dean Hamstead
it does link to ilohamail which looks promising Dean Dave Kempe wrote: James Polley wrote: Roundcube does look kinda purty.. but it's in alpha, and it uses everyone's favorite toy database for some inexplicable reason. Why does a webmail client need to use a database? If it really must, why

Re: [SLUG] Your top-ten linux desktop apps

2005-09-28 Thread David
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 03:54:55PM +1000, Mike MacCana wrote: On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 11:17 +1000, David wrote: mutt for speed squirrelmail for pictures, html, pdf, other gui crap, etc. You might be interested in roundcube. OSS webmail like Squirrelmail, except it doesn't look like arse.

Re: [SLUG] Installing X in Debian

2005-09-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=QuantumG Which reminds me. Does anyone know the status of Gnome/DirectFB? Last time I checked they were finding DirectFB a bit of a moving target. GTK+ includes linuxfb support - DirectFB support has always been an external patch. So, it lags. You can't run a complete desktop on

[SLUG] Email Dream Team Update? [Was: Your top-ten linux desktop apps]

2005-09-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Bruce Badger Perhaps we could have a SLUG talk on mutt? So, I did a SLUG talk in 2001 called 'The Free Software Email Dream Team'. I could do an update. I still run roughly the same combination, but have learned a few more tricks along the way. It would force me to update and

Re: [SLUG] Email Dream Team Update? [Was: Your top-ten linux desktop apps]

2005-09-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jeff Waugh quote who=Bruce Badger Perhaps we could have a SLUG talk on mutt? So, I did a SLUG talk in 2001 called 'The Free Software Email Dream Team'. Heh: http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/announce/2001/May/msg6.html - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2006: Dunedin, New

Re: [SLUG] Email Dream Team Update? [Was: Your top-ten linux desktop apps]

2005-09-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jeff Waugh Perhaps we could have a SLUG talk on mutt? So, I did a SLUG talk in 2001 called 'The Free Software Email Dream Team'. Heh: http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/announce/2001/May/msg6.html Boh, and there was a meeting report too. We should do these again.

Re: [SLUG] Debian

2005-09-28 Thread amos
On 9/28/05, James Polley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That will get him a Ubuntu system, not a Debian system. As much as Ubuntu is based on Debian, you are limited to Ubuntu's world and can't practically install packages from Debian. Not

Re: [SLUG] Debian

2005-09-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] See in http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components what Ubuntu promises about the level of support and guarentee that things from this repository will work. When it comes down to it, that's roughly the same level of support and guarantees that Debian provides for

Re: [SLUG] Your top-ten linux desktop apps

2005-09-28 Thread Sam Couter
O Plameras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In doing so I have a dramatic change in the way my program now behaves. No. A for loop is just a different way of expressing a while loop; they're different syntax but identical in behaviour. Watch: for (initialise; guard; increment) { body } initialise;

Re: [SLUG] squirrellmail/roundcube

2005-09-28 Thread Del
We just spent some time looking at PHP webmail clients. Here are our contenders list. We were looking at making extensions to them so the comments are mostly aimed at looking inside the code to see how well written it was. wMail http://wmail.sourceforge.net/ -- quite small, fairly

[SLUG] Contracting and Working from home

2005-09-28 Thread James Purser
Due to family issues I am seriously considering moving back into contracting and working from home. It's been four years since I last did the free lancing bit. So what I am asking is what is the scene like at the moment with regards to the amount of work out there and what are other peoples

[SLUG] Re: Debian

2005-09-28 Thread Mary Gardiner
On 2005-09-27, Paul Maloney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I have finally got debian up and running, well in a text mode at least. How do I got it to boot into graphics mode. thanks in advance.Paul Installing the x-window-system package, which depends on pretty much all required applications

[SLUG] package installation initial state

2005-09-28 Thread Christopher JS Vance
Let's say I have a running Linux kernel with working user space, and I want to construct a minimal chroot environment from a bunch of .deb files (I have the Breezy preview ISO). No optional or recommended, just the bits I say, with their prerequisites. The chroot doesn't need to be bootable,

[SLUG] ctrl-alt-left ctrl-alt-right under VNC (OT?)

2005-09-28 Thread Raphael Kraus
G'day, (Warning: some readers may consider this mail off-topic for the list!) I'm sure I used to be able to do this (although I'm wondering now). Using gnome desktop, you can ctrl-alt-left and right between desktops. However, viewing the desktop via VNC this isn't possible (or at least not

[SLUG] Re: package installation initial state

2005-09-28 Thread Matt Palmer
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 12:01:18PM +1000, Christopher JS Vance wrote: With RH/Fedora, I can make a few empty directories, run rpm --initdb (or whatever the spelling is), and then use rpm either after chroot or with an option to change the directory it considers as root. What is the

Re: [SLUG] Re: package installation initial state

2005-09-28 Thread Christopher JS Vance
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 12:58:07PM +1000, Matt Palmer wrote: What you want is debootstrap. Does everything you're looking for, but in a single command. I note with some interest that somebody has recently written rpmstrap (name might be slightly different) to provide an equivalent to

Re: dynamic vs static type checking (was Re: [SLUG] Your top-ten linux desktop apps)

2005-09-28 Thread Angus Lees
At Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:00:09 +1000, Bruce Badger wrote: On 9/27/05, Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are large classes of problems where running speed is an important issue. Static typing does make for faster run times and in cases where that moves your program from being

[SLUG] Installing Perl modules on Solaris

2005-09-28 Thread saurabh shukla
Hi All, I am trying to install a couple of perl modules on Solaris 10 machine. I am getting the following error. CPAN.pm: Going to build T/TI/TIMB/DBI-1.48.tar.gz *** Note: The optional PlRPC-modules (RPC::PlServer etc) are not installed. If you want to use the DBD::Proxy driver

Re: [SLUG] Installing Perl modules on Solaris

2005-09-28 Thread Gavin Carr
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 03:33:27PM +1000, saurabh shukla wrote: I see you're using perl 5.008004 on sun4-solaris-64int, okay. snip cc -c -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -xarch=v8 -D_TS_ERRNO -xO3 -xspace -xildoff -DVERSION=\1.48\ -DXS_VERSION=\1.48\ -KPIC